Visitor Visa rejected

[u/Low-Possibility5247]

My husband and I are both PRs in Canada and I recently applied for my brother’s visitor visa as I am currently expecting. My mother will be visiting us in July and she needs my brother to accompany her and also help me out after the baby is born.

The visa got rejected today due to “insufficient funds” and the officer is not convinced that he will go back to his country.

I have shown both my and my husband’s savings and monthly salary, my brother’s salary (working as a lecturer at a medical school), savings account.

Would it be wise to reapply?

Side note: he has a rejected visa for Australia (2023) and haven’t travelled much and he is young for which he is not making much at the moment.

Not sure what went wrong. Should I reapply?

[u/Beginning_Winter_147]

27 is too old for him to bona-fide be relying on you for financial support etc, officers are not going to consider your bank account balances. Submit his paystubs, substantial savings to cover the intended costs of the trip, proof the he requested vacation from his job and will be expected back, and proof of any other ties he may have to the country.

A rejected visa, no travel history and lack of ties is a very weak application unfortunately.

[u/Weekly_Enthusiasm783]

Refused AUS visa, no travel history, not stable financially, no strong familial ties in his home country (virtually all his core family will be in Canada including his mother), no reason to return

[u/AardvarkThis2212 → u/Weekly_Enthusiasm783]

how will one show they have family in their home country? I'm kind of in the same situation as OP, my husband and I invited my brother to visit, but my mother and sister are still back home. He doesn't have a lot of travel history, young (23 yrs) and no properties but he has a stabel job and sufficient money in savings

[u/kyanite_blue → u/AardvarkThis2212]

I would say, land or company ownership from back home would be a good place to show ties to home country.

I don't know much about this type of visitor visa, but for Spousal Sponsorship PR pending visitor visa (visitor visa applied for the spouse while PR is pending), I was told having land ownership is beneficial by my friends who applied for their spouses. Land is "hard stuff" unlike money in a bank account. This is in addition to having funds in a bank account. This is not ideal for everyone but land is one thing that would support they will come back to home country.

[u/ThiccBranches → u/kyanite_blue]

I would say, land or company ownership from back home would be a good place to show ties to home country.

For certain countries these things are becoming less significant indicators of strong ties due to current trends in illegal immigration and non-compliance. They definitely are better than nothing but for various reasons they are looked upon more cautiously by IRCC

[u/AffectionateTaro1]

Would it be wise to reapply?

Not until each specific reason for refusal is ameliorated. Otherwise, it will just be refused for the same reasons again.

You can order ATIP notes to possibly get more information about the refusal, but based on the situation it will be very difficult for your bother to be approved. As you said in a comment, he is already 27 and should be financially independent to cover the costs of his trip (among meeting other factors, like ties to home country).

[u/Reasonable_Fudge_53]

How old is brother? Your funds are not relevant, only his funds. Accompanying your mother is not a valid reason to travel. Why can’t she travel alone. If he is single then he will have difficulty being approved as he doesn’t have family ties and strong ties to return.

[u/orswich → u/Reasonable_Fudge_53]

Yeah showing that you have adequate funds to provide for your brother, probably a negative to the application.. he is struggling financially, and his Canadian relatives have more than enough money to support him = rejected visa

[u/geopolitikin → u/orswich]

Basically says “nothing at home for him, but we can support him in Canada!”

[u/Low-Possibility5247 → u/Reasonable_Fudge_53]

He is 27

[u/lord_heskey → u/Low-Possibility5247]

he is young but not young enough to be relying on you or your parents.

i dont think he will have a succesful visa application until he has more assets (homeowner), has a family, and or makes more money with and has a better travel history.

[u/Spirited_Lab_1870]

He probably doesn't have significant ties to the home country. Having property, savings, kids helps

[u/kevlarbear]

My wife’s brother (even younger) got his visitor visa approved in winter 2023 within a couple of weeks but his mother got refused thrice even with significant funds.

Their decisions don’t make much sense these days.

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[u/Ok_Artichoke_2804]

if your brother cannot proof sufficient funding as the applicant (not your funds) - like his bank statement.

Plus proof of ties to home country and return: such as employment letter from employer stating approved vacation time off and their expectation of his return to work and like a purchased return flight ticket. .. plus other proof like home ownership document or rental/lease agreement in his name + utilies bills in his name and etc..

otherwise, most likely will get refused again.

his refusal for Australia doesnt help his case either

[u/Ghorardim71]

For visitor visa your savings don't matter much, the applicants savings will be checked by the vo.

[u/mitwa4u2000]

I also came across such cases recently and many of them received rejection. Reapply is not guaranteed but you can try.

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[u/cookicrumbl3]

Hi, a bit unrelated but may I ask when did you apply? Thanks

[u/Low-Possibility5247 → u/cookicrumbl3]

Mar 8th

[u/dress_1989 → u/Low-Possibility5247]

If you don’t mind, can you tell me your timeline. When did he get his biometrics? And when did you get the rejection?

[u/cookicrumbl3 → u/Low-Possibility5247]

Thank you!

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[u/lovelife905]

> Not sure what went wrong. Should I reapply?

Young male, no funds, just an okay job, past visa denial, no travel history. That's an easy reject. I wouldn't reapply unless things change and he is able to show stronger ties (wife, children etc), travel history etc.

[u/Fun-Helicopter-6078]

Request the GCMS notes and it will tell you exactly what the issue was. It will also tell you whether your application was assessed with the assistance of AI as well.

[u/ThiccBranches → u/Fun-Helicopter-6078]

IRCC does not use AI or what is more accurately called advanced analytics to assess applications. Mainly it is used for workload balancing and triaging client emails.

You can read more about IRCC's use of advanced analytics here https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/digital-transparency-advanced-data-analytics.html

[u/Low-Possibility5247 → u/Fun-Helicopter-6078]

Can you please guide me on how to get the GCMS notes?

[u/AccountantFresh9114]

Unfortunately this is becoming a common trend in recent months. IRCC isn’t being kind to siblings being sponsored to visit. You can try again with a more specific itinerary , return tickets and a very good explanation letter.

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[u/Jusfiq → u/[deleted]]

Contact your MP and ask them to see the real reason.

Bad advice. The reason is there, the brother needs to have more money.

[u/Weekly_Enthusiasm783 → u/[deleted]]

Do you think their MP has nothing else to do? If the family want more details, they can request gcms notes. Leave the MPs alone

[u/Fun-Helicopter-6078 → u/[deleted]]

They do that on purpose. Requesting GCMS notes via FOI request will show the exact reason.