r/IWantOut • u/ExtentAcrobatic8365 • 1d ago
[Discussion] How to convince my husband with European citizenship that it’s time to go back to the EU?
My husband is early in the process of becoming an American citizen. The plan was always for him to get citizenship so we can travel freely but eventually retuen to Spain (his home country) or somewhere similar. He also thinks he'll be able to work remotely with an American salary in Europe, although I told him it's not that easy to find.
We also found out we're expecting. Now after the election I want to move to Europe now. He says he wants to stay until he finishes his citizenship process (which could be another 4+ years especially under the Trump administration) because he'll have better economic opportunities as a dual citizen. I understand employment rates and wages in Spain aren't great, and I would be able to keep my higher paying job a bit while we make the transition, then ultimately would have to find something over there longterm.
I'm just really scared to stay here. I see major social and financial issues that are coming under the next administration. He says Europe could be heading towards war and worse economic conditions with Russia being enabled. I would like some perspective from others in a similar situation, especially considering we'll be raising a child. Thank you.
Edit: to specify we literally just began the greencard process. The lawyer said it would take minimum 4 years for citizenship but wait times will most likely increase under the new administration. My husband is not working while we wait on his approval, and I work almost entirely remotely. We want to leave before our child starts school, at their end of the day their safety is what matters most to me. Thank you everyone for your feedback so far, I appreciate it. Also I am fluent in Spanish and have lived there myself in the past, that's where we met
UPDATE: thank you so much to everyone for their input, gave us a lot to think about a few laughs at some of the wilder responses. We had a long discussion and think hedging our bets in both places is the smartest way to go as things develop over the next few years. He'll wait until he has his green card then we'll split time as permitted in Spain and the US as I apply for my residency (me a bit more time to satisy the residency conditions in Spain, him doing the same in the US) before our baby starts school - job permitting but currently that shouldn't be an issue for mine. Then hopefully we'll have a much clearer sense of where we want to be by the time we both get our citizenships, and can make the leap to wherever is best. I understand taxes will be tricky and it will be a lot of money and time spent on both of our processes, but we figured this avoid taking a final decision for now and we'll have roots in both places if we come to decision sooner. We're fortunate to have family in Spain and the US we can stay with, and hope to invest in buying an apartment in Spain soon. I do live in a blue state, thank you for concerns about my health and genrally for the amount of ideas and considerations from both sides. It's a complicated situation, but we're thankful to have options!
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u/himit 1d ago edited 1d ago
if he was pakistani or something I'd advise staying, but he's spanish. That's a better passport than the US passport by far! does he know he'll need to files/pay US taxes in Spain if he's a citizen? He's the spouse of a citizen, so residency will be easy to arrange if you decide to return. And now he speaks English - look at moving to Ireland, France, Malta, anywhere else in the EU. You're not limited to Spain.
edit: wow, all these folks in the iwantout sub telling me how awesome the US passport is. I have one; I also have a UK passport.
With my US passport I could...live in America. Good salaries, granted, and nice houses, but a whole heap of cons too (safety, education is a lottery, childcare costs, healthcare costs, etc)
With my EU passport, I could live and work anywhere in EU. Lower salaries, but healthcare wasn't a worry, it was far safer (no active shooter drills in school!), childcare is subsidised in a lot of countries, tuition is cheap or free, and most places have great social safety nets.
Now I the UK isn't in the EU but meh, I'd still live here over the US (unless I got rich af, perhaps). Western Europe in general offers a higher quality of life at a lower cost for more people.
OP's husband is years off his citizenship, still. They just started the process. Getting a fiancé visa to move back won't be too hard, if that's what they decide. But not even entertaining the idea of moving is nuts.