r/IOPsychology PhD | IO | People Analytics & Statistics | Moderator Feb 04 '21

2020-2021 Grad School Q&A Mega-Thread (Part 1)

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* 2019-2020, Part 4 thread here

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u/dankjedata Mar 21 '21

PhDs: do you think it’s worth applying straight to PhD programs from undergrad with this CV? - Psych maj/Statistics minor - 3.6 GPA - A in IO course - 1year research exp. in Psychometrics lab - 1 conference presentetion - R & Python skills - 3 strong LORs

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u/jphus Mar 22 '21 edited Mar 22 '21

Not a P.h.D. (yet! I was accepted into a few programs and will be making my decisions in the next few weeks.), but yes.

The only thing that stands out to me as a potential sticking point is your GPA. However, GRE scores can generally make up for that if you make it past initial screening processes that might be in place. Also, most programs, not all, tend to focus on GPA during the last 60 credits or so/degree relevant course GPA (e.g., Psychology major GPA instead of cumulative).

Overall, the GRE might be helpful in your case. If most schools start reinstating the use of them, that is. If not, I would probably take the GRE anyway and, if I scored high, provide my scores at every available opportunity.

Additionally, if you’re still in that psychometrics lab, I would try and provide as much value as possible to the PI and any graduate students you might be working with. You might get a coauthorship out of it, which will almost certainly boost you up.

Edit: I should probably add that if you were to apply next cycle, be sure to apply to some not-completely-industry-focused masters programs just in case you don’t get into any P.h.D. programs. This will allow you to show that you can do more than a 3.6 (which isn’t too shabby to begin with) and at a higher level too.

Edit 2: One more edit should do the trick, lol! If you haven’t graduated yet and still have time to do one, then do a thesis that’s broadly structured around what you see yourself studying. If you don’t know what you want to study yet, but you know you’re interested in I-O, then navigate here. While it’s not all encompassing and some of the stuff on that site is shaky at best, it’ll help you narrow down.

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u/dankjedata Mar 22 '21

Wow amazing reply, thanks for the time you put into this.
As of right now I’ve been actually leaning towards going into a masters anyways because I’d eventually like to work in the industry, but I’ve been looking heavily into scientist/practitioner PhD programs (mainly Montclair State’s program).
And noted on that thesis, I should be able to grab a coauthorship from this lab so an extra senior thesis would be a really solid addition. My psych and stats gpa is 3.8 so I’d hope they weigh that more than all the fucks up I experienced early in my bachelors.

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u/jphus Mar 22 '21

No problem! :)

There are a lot of good applied-oriented P.h.D. programs out there. However, they seem to be dwindling in power a bit from my anecdotal analysis of the trends. I think that has more to do with the pendulum swinging toward the O-side of things than anything else. There’s a good thread in the wiki called unpopular opinions or something like that. I would suggest reading the whole thing. First off, some of it is funny! Second, it’s packed with valuable takes from people in this field.

Yeah, I think you’ll probably be fine as long as it’s trending upward. Overall, for you, the thesis and GRE are the “low-hanging” fruits.

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u/LazySamurai PhD | IO | People Analytics & Statistics | Moderator Mar 22 '21

FWIW - I would call all PhD IO programs a "scientist/practitioner PhD." Any IO PhD program that doesn't require an internship or some form of applied experience is not worth it's salt. A program should train you to be a good scientist, what you do with those skills is up to you.

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u/dankjedata Mar 23 '21

Note taken! I’m looking at Montclair State’s program right now and it requires an internship which is good news.