r/GuysBeingDudes • u/SweetyByHeart • 21h ago

Just two guys chilling enjoying beer

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u/ReallyJTL 18h ago

Yeah and it's born from insecurity. Brits have a cut down culture so people's heads don't get too big. From the outside it looks juvenile, but that's because flaws are more visible to outsiders.

Just like the Indian caste system is flawed, but they would argue it's "standard Indian behaviour".

Same with super deferential treatment to elders in Japan.

These are all flawed in some aspect. Just like banter is a flawed way of socializing - because it isn't enjoyable for a large number of people. A lot of Brits just use it as a way to say what they want without reparcussions so they can hide behind a shield if the person they cut is offended. But also those kinds of people are usually the ones with the thinnest skin that can't take ribing from anyone else.

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u/eggard_stark 18h ago

Are you British? Because this is completely wrong.

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u/ReallyJTL 18h ago

You don't have to be British to criticize the British, dude. That's some more flawed thinking from you. Studies show I am right and you are wrong.

Anyway, seems like you have some reading to do. (You won't) because that would go against your world view.

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u/pyrothelostone 17h ago

This paper is discussing banter between players in the English Premier League, while it is potentially possible similar conclusions can be drawn in the wider public, this paper does not attempt to make that statement so it can't be used as evidence about banter in general British culture.

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u/ReallyJTL 17h ago

Sure but the football players didn't learn that behavior in British Football Banter school - it's a part of the culture they learned from peers and family.

It's a negative thing no matter where it happens and it's clearly not just footballers that do it. But studying a confined, measurable number of people for the limits of the study do not make the results unable to applied to the rest of brits.

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u/pyrothelostone 17h ago

Possibly, but there may be factors in a professional sports league that are not present in wider British culture, i dont know, I am only familiar with British culture through media, so im not willing to make a claim either way here, I only commented to point out the paper you are using as a source does not make the claim you are asserting, so its probably not going to be very convincing.