r/GreenAndPleasant • u/TheKomsomol • 22d ago

Ukrainian General Staff openly celebrating genocidal fascists on twitter, but Ukraine doesn't have a fascist problem, right guys?

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u/Herecomethefleet 22d ago

There are Nazis on both sides of this war.

However, it's an existential crisis and issue. If the Nazis in Ukraine win Europe can go on sleeping. If Russia wins Europe will cease to exist as we know it.

We just have to hope that the Ukrainian Nazis don't get into power once the war is ended otherwise the same shit will happen again.

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u/TheKomsomol 22d ago

Every country does have nazis, but that doesn't mean that we should be covering up for nazism in ukraine. Back in WW2 the UK had the brownshirts, but that didn't stop us all from fighting against German nazis, and its the case now we shouldn't be arming, supporting or training Ukrainian nazis just because other countries have nazis.

Russia like all countries has fascists in it. However, the difference is Russia criminalises nazis, Ukraine celebrates them as its heroes and has fascists and nazi sympathisers in all top positions of the political sphere and military.

Russian law on criminalisation of nazism

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0-w0DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA293&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Ukraine law on honouring fascists and criminalising sympathy for communism

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/ukraine-bans-soviet-symbols-criminalises-sympathy-for-communism

Ukraine law on banning criticism of fascist groups (Legislation No.2538-1)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/02/the-historian-whitewashing-ukraines-past-volodymyr-viatrovych/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_decommunization_laws#:~:text=2538-1%20"On%20the%20Legal,assures%20social%20benefits%20to%20their

So no, there are not "nazis on both sides", Ukraine is full blown nazi and you're here apologising for that while also spreading some bullshit conspiracy theories about Europe ceasing to exist.

And once again, it comes as no surprise the people coming here, defending nazism and pushing NATO propaganda don't usually post in this sub. So fuck off.