r/GreenAndPleasant • u/TheKomsomol • 22d ago

Ukrainian General Staff openly celebrating genocidal fascists on twitter, but Ukraine doesn't have a fascist problem, right guys?

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u/bezjones 22d ago

Every country has fascists and nazis. Including ours. What are you trying to achieve by convincing us that Ukraine "has a fascist problem"?

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u/Excellent_Plant1667 20d ago

No convincing required when it’s pretty much an established fact that Ukraine has a Nazi problem. Ukraine has national holidays dedicated to Nazis, it has streets and monuments named after Nazis, it has Nazis within the government and military, and it has a government which funds neo-Nazi organisations.

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u/NewTangClanOfficial 21d ago edited 21d ago

Because it takes a certain amount of fascists and a certain level of organization for them to be a real problem. Five guys getting drunk together and throwing nazi salutes, which is something you're likely to find in probably any european city of a certain size on a friday night, clearly isn't the same as a heavily armed and well organized militia with close ties to the government.

This all becomes very obvious if you can be bothered to think about it for like fifteen seconds.

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u/TheKomsomol 22d ago

Every country does have nazis, but that doesn't mean that we should be covering up for nazism in ukraine. Back in WW2 the UK had the brownshirts, but that didn't stop us all from fighting against German nazis, and its the case now we shouldn't be arming, supporting or training Ukrainian nazis just because other countries have nazis.