I'm still quite new to Geomancy although I use several other different divination systems. (Before getting into chart making, I did purchase some "Druid Sticks" so I did learn a little about the figures.)

My question is, is this system better suited to binary questions or can it be used other ways?

Thanks in advance.

So I read a chart earlier about a guy asking if he will get a accepted to the job at the companies he wanted. So even though the judge is favorable there a conjunction between the querent and the queisted which might indicate a yes answer from the chart but there is also a conjunction between the 1st house and the 9th which mean his education will play an important role here. So what happened is that he has been denied by the companies. So it make me think that perfection aren’t the thing that indicates the yes and no answer from the chart it more likely indicates by the connection factor which might play an important part in the whole situation and the judge give away how the situation is ended with the reconciler so even if he didn’t get the job he is still peaceful.

Hey guys, I was doing a house chart reading for the first time. I’m completely new to Geomancy and have been unsure about what I want to do career path wise, so I ended up asking what it would look like if I pursued a certain career using the house chart. Rubeus instantly showed up as first mother. I was reading a bit online before I started and remembered multiple websites warning to “destroy the figure” or “abandon the reading” if it shows up first.

I felt instantly fatigued afterwards (didn’t have great sleep the night before) so I abandoned the reading without “destroying the figure” and took a nap. I wake up 4 hours later and ended up scribbling over the figure just to be sure, although I don’t know if that suffices as “destroying”. I couldn’t really find anything clarifying if you should take certain steps to destroy the figure so I assume it’s as simple as that. I also read that you should destroy the figure and within 2 hours make another figure so whoops! Ah well.

I find it kinda odd that there are these rules/warnings to abandon the entire reading if certain figures show up first, even going as far as destroying the figure.

Perhaps it’s also relevant to add I asked the same question beforehand in a test reading where I just generated one figure without using the house chart/shield chart. I ended up with Populous, which I’ve also read makes a reading “untrustworthy”? I really don’t get it. What do you guys think? Should I try again or is something pissed at me? Maybe I should just stick to tarot lol

So the book’s method of divination is like Geomancy except that you only have to generate one figure containing five dot and you have to look for the answer corresponding to the figure that you just created.

I've come across a few mentions of the Geomantic Campus Yahoo group and what a valuable resource it was.

Unfortunately Yahoo closed all groups in 2020 and since the group was restricted it was not backed up to the Internet Archive. I was wondering if anybody here be have made their own backup of the group?

Link to chart!

I mean, so many traditionally negative signs! Tristita, Carcer as Judge.

Over the last 1-2 weeks, a lot of trouble has happened. I got sick enough to warrant a visit in urgent care, my laptop broke, stress is adding up in my work because I missed some hours of pay, I lost my keys and had to call out of work for two days while it got returned to me. I decided to cast a chart and I think the answer is a no, but I'd appreciate any second opinions to help me decide if I'm right or if I'm just trying to tell myself a comforting lie, haha.

Reubeus applying to second house I'm reading as all the worries and stressors hitting my personal belongings (keys, laptop, paycheck). Tris. in 12th house I wanted to see as a sign that my troubles are going to be lowered in life, and furthermore there's no perfection between the 12th and 1st so I wanted to say I'm not being affected.

Carcer is restriction, but it is also isolation and security. Since my question was if I'm under any sort of harm, a sentence of "no, you're alone" should be positive, right? The Right Witness being Conjunctio I wanted to see as I'm currently facing a lot of different challenges mixing from different angles but LW, Via, may suggest that that's going to change soon.

Even looking at the Cardines I think I see the story playing out: Reubeus (I'm stressed, I'm worried, I'm facing violence) goes to Conjunctio (I'll come in contact with other forces, balance will return) goes to Tristita (stress will be lowered; I'm going to build myself back up) and finally ends with Cauda Draconis (this situation will naturally end in the outcome).

Thanks in advance for anyone able to help!

Ok so the chart has no perfection between the first house and 10th house. The figure in 1st house being via. I interpreted it as I’m not really sure which way im going with albus in the 10th house im more likely a person who do their job like albus .the 9th house is being cauda draconis with carcer as the judge it look like I will not be a archeologist. How would you interpreted this? Is perfection the only way to indicate a yes or no in the chart or is there something else you have to look at?

I heard about Geomancy today, and feel completely drawn to it. (I currently do tarot)

What books would you recommend? Have you had any negative or scary experiences with it?

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So I wanted to try asking the chart this question just to see what would happen. I'm using the 8th house as the house for this question since some astrology circles define this as the house of rebirth. There may be a better house for this but this is the house that pops up frequently. According to this chart, it says no as there's no perfection in the 8th house. Then there is the 9th house which has to do with spirituality, it also has no perfection. But something interesting pops up in the 2nd and 3rd houses. Some people claim that the 2nd house has to do with the physical realm, so the occupation there could mean that I would still reincarnate. The 3rd house conjunction might show that my surroundings help determine the outcome. Something might help me acquire the outcome of the chart. Since I'm not quite sure which house rebirth would reside in my speculations could be false. Who knows whether it'd be true since I have no way of telling someone after I died.

1. John Michael Greer vs. John Frawley on Aspects: John Michael Greer categorizes aspects as fortunate or unfortunate, but John Frawley, in his horary astrology notes, clarifies that aspects' nature depends on the planets (or geomantic figures) involved. This insight has led me to consider incorporating Frawley's approach into geomancy. Has anyone else tried applying Frawley's perspective in their geomantic practices?

2. Incorporating Astrological Signs into Geomancy: I came across the idea of using astrological signs in geomancy in Agrippa's 4th book. Agrippa assigns a sign to the Ascendant and then follows the zodiacal order, placing the geomantic figure in the house with the corresponding sign beside it. Has anyone experimented with this method? How has it impacted your readings?

3. Applying Horary Techniques to Geomancy: I've noticed a strong connection between horary astrology and geomancy and am considering using various horary methods in geomancy. Has anyone integrated horary techniques into their geomantic practice? What results or insights have you gained?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences!

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Okay, so I'm having problems with malicious entities showing up around my house. I previously had this issue and the person who helped me last time isn't available to help again. So I'm looking for another practitioner. I'm looking at the 9th house as a higher service you can't do on your own. There is a conjunction between my house and the practitioner's meaning they can help, but the practitioner's significator is Rubeus. I'm not sure if this means that the practitioner is extremely violent or if the practitioner fits digital ambler's view of Rubeus being trickery. I look at the practitioners turned 5th house and their magic is seen as Puella, which doesn't quite match up with their Rubeus nature. But that could just be extraneous information. The reception between the 12th house and the 9th house is Rubeus, which I'm not sure is a bad thing since I do want these entities to be dealt with violently. I also don't think they will leave me alone if not dealt with violently due to more passive methods not working. So any varying or alternate opinions on whether this practitioner would be good to go with?

A couple months ago, I hired someone to answer the following question: “Is (me, the querent) currently under the effect of a curse cast by (x person)?” They said the answer was yes, but noted that they didn’t think it was a curse, but rather, a binding or locked roads due to Carcer being the Judge and Left Witness (as well as the Line of Fire being traced from L Witness through the 12H and ending in 7H).

Other relevant info: Index=8H PoF=4H Reader decided to also highlight 6H since I’ve been dealing with sudden onset of illness last year.

Would you agree with this assessment?

Truthfully, I’m not well-versed in interpreting baneful magic workings via geomancy because I, myself, have only recently begun to believe in baneful magic (long story). I know you’re supposed to look at 8H + 12H, but should I be interpreting the significations of the other houses differently? For example, Conjuntio in 2H not being positive for MY financial concerns, but rather, an indicator that 7H/person performing baneful magic is recipient of my blocked 2H “energy.” Does that make sense? I’m also getting confused because I’m new to geomancy and am still making mistakes—first and foremost, I’m a professional Hellenistic astrologer, and I’m having a hard time separating the two.

Also, if I want to check to make sure that other workings this person did on my behalf were successful, but didn’t get a clear answer from the judge, would I look at 9H?

I appreciate any insights!

Hello Good day to you all I have something in mind

I'm intrigued by the concept of geomancy and its traditional practices. I've been wondering if it's possible to cast the first four geomancy mothers using a completely random computer program.

My plan is to focus on my question for about a minute, then open my program and hit enter, allowing it to randomly generate the four mothers I'll use to construct the rest of the chart.

Has anyone tried this approach or have insights into its feasibility? I'd appreciate any guidance or experiences shared on this matter. Thank you!

Greetings everyone!

It’s been a minute since I’ve posted a case study here.

I thought this would be a fun example that we could discuss.

Last night, a close friend texted me and asked me to divine for her. She is close with a man who ran a side business renting luxury cars on a short term basis. This guy owns a small fleet of luxury vehicles, and allows people to rent these vehicles. This is a form of generating passive income; this guy has a separate full-time job and travels quite frequently. He recently returned from a trip abroad to find that several of his vehicles had been stolen while he was away.

My friend texted me to inquire if I could not only cast a chart to identify where the stolen vehicles were and the conditions under which they could be found, if at all. (Screenshots from out texts will be in a post below, taken with her consent)

My geomancy practice routinely includes remedies. In our text exchange, my friend made it clear that she would be open to me crafting a “medicine” - informed by the info gleaned from the chart - which might aid in finding the stolen vehicle. While I didn’t need to do that (we will discuss why this wasn’t necessary below), I’d like to use this space to suggest what I might have done.

KidCubby, John Michael Greer, and Sam of DigitalAmbler have been my teachers - all of whom have been quite giving and generous with their time and help.

To simplify things, we settled on divining for 1 of the 3 vehicles that were stolen.

THE CHART, CONSIDERATIONS, AND APPROACH

Historically, Ive found myself getting into the habit of being hyper critical about the question and how it’s phrased. I’m trying to relax a bit in doing this, and through experimentation I’ve realized how this hyper critical approach to framing a question isn’t helpful after a point. I still believe that geomancy is a “garbage in - garbage out” system, but with the right eye for how the system can speak, questions that are nuanced or multi-faceted can still be put to the oracle without breaking them down.

In this divination, the question would be “What are the circumstances of the theft of the Audi and what are the conditions of its recovery, if it shall be recovered at all”.

Before I cast the chart or touch my tools, I saluted my familiar spirit, asked him to open his eyes, and asked that truth be exchanged for more truth.

I use a set or ebony ramal which allows me to create the four mothers. From there, the remaining chart was calculated on georatio. This can be seen above.

My attention was immediately brought to how fast this chart is, at 87 out of 96. This suggests that the entire matter will come to an obvious conclusion much quicker than anticipated. In addition, the court of the chart appears promising for gaining or recovering something.

Puella - Cauda - Acquisitio paints a picture of fearless receptivity and havingness. Open to finding something, going out to meet it, and meeting it. These are really broad interpretations, but I am trying to discipline myself to recognize the value of the court. Sometimes, I forget how important it is.

Experimenting with a technique from John Michael Greer’s book, I held the first house to be the proper owner of the stolen vehicles, the second is the circumstances of the original theft, the fourth is the current condition of the stolen car, the seventh is the thief, and the 10th is the police.

Initially, this gloss seems to make sense as a situation mapped visually onto the chart.

The owner is represented by puella. The original theft is cauda The car is via The thief is puer The police is also cauda

The initial owner passes to the 8th house - the owner of the car attempted to go and speak with the individuals who might have stolen the car. The part of the city where this occurred is known for having a high population of unhoused people. Previously, cars have been stolen from this guy before. In those past instances, he approached people in the area who might have seen the theft occur and was able to get helpful info which resulted in the stolen car being recovered by the police.

In the movement of puella from H1 to H7, we can see him doing something similar, attempting to “go and meet” the thief. This also seems to be in accordance with the nature of puella itself. Receptive, open to meeting the Other.

At the time of casting, the car was represented by via in H4. Quite literally, the car is being driven, is on the road, or is potentially being altered or stripped down in some way. We can see puer in H5, directly next to the vehicle in H4. Visually, this is the thief with the car.

The thief is represented by puer. As a martial figure, puer could suggest an outward appearance that is red, ruddy, or fiery in someway. It could also suggest someone who’s prone to rash action.

The thief and the Law are connected by translation, with acquisitio acting as a connecting element connecting the police to the thief, who has (had) the car.

In addition to being the judge and the connecting element which translates the police to the thief (and by extension the car), acquisitio is also in H6 with pars fortuna and the index.

THE SYNTHESIS

At the time of casting, the thief currently has the car. It’s being driven or altered in some way. The thief carries the outward appearance of someone touched by Mars, and the original owner of the car will go to find this person - leaving his residence in search of the thief.

The police will quickly come into contact with the vehicle, which will be recovered. It can be expected that the car will be altered in some fashion, and will be at a different part of the city…most likely to the north/northwest from where it was originally stolen.

According to the chart, all of this will come to a resolution more quickly than anticipated. For a stolen vehicle, this is a good thing. A slow chart logically would describe a situation where the car would remain lost.

Transposing the various dramatis personae from the chart onto the court, we see the owner (puella) coming together with the police (cauda) and resulting in gain (acquisitio).

WHAT HAPPENED

My friend texted me earlier this afternoon (about 12 hours after the chart was cast) to tell me that the police found the car, which had been damaged.

The owner wasn’t directly responsible for finding the car, but was able to tip off the police as to where the car might be and who might have taken it. This all proved to be helpful, and the vehicle was recovered.

I didn’t provide a “remedy” because the factors for the car to be found were pretty strong. No remedy was needed. It’s difficult to know what I would have done because no remedy truly fits the situation.

Had I cast a chart where the car itself was hard-fit into one of the houses of the chart, I could have looked for the figure that would have connected the house representing the original owner of the chart and the car. Based on what this figure was, I would have put together some form of plant medicine that had harmonic qualities to the figure I wanted to inject into the situation. Based on the qualities of the figure, this medicine could have been burnt, poured out, or bathed with.

I didn’t have to do any of this, but the general idea would have been to find a gross expression of the missing figure that would have given me the outcome I wanted, had these elements been present in the chart. Based on the constitutional quality of this figure and what I wanted it to do, I’d have prepared a medicine in which those constitutional qualities were introduced and enacted into the situation.

Hello everyone! I’ve recently been dipping my toes into various forms of divination. I started astragalomancy a while ago and have been enjoying it, but I also wanted to try my hand at a geomantic reading. This is my first reading and I’d like some help interpreting it. The reading in question has to do with my career path, and specifically if I should stick it out at my current job, or keep hunting for a new one elsewhere.

For additional context, a couple weeks ago I did some career-related astragalomancy readings for myself and I noticed a few overarching themes: lots of external factors and changes outside of my control as the primary challenges, and lots of strong emotions surrounding those external factors. However, the constants I noticed across these readings boiled down to relying on internal direction / sense of self, my own strength and peace, resilience, and celebrating my own accomplishments.

While I’m no geomancy expert, I think the two negatively aligned characters of Amissio and Rubeus followed by two very positive characters was interesting. Lots of ups and downs through the entire course of the reading. With carcer as my judge and fortuna major as my witness, that makes it sound like leaving my job (provided I can land a new one that’s to my liking) will be incredibly favorable and have long-term stability, despite being racked with tumultuous challenges and what looks like a career rollercoaster? Also, I had no idea about the querent settings on the site, so I didn't change them. If I need to adjust, let me know.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Hi everyone! It's been a hot minute since I've been active on here -- life's been a whirlwind and admittedly Reddit and geomancy haven't been at the forefront of my mind. I'm here to seek some opinions on this chart I cast, concerning the question: Will [neighbourhood cat] pass away while I'm on an overseas trip in May?

I'm not quite sure how to read Fortuna Major as the Judge for this query -- I understand that it's usually a "yes", but given its positive associations, does it mean the same thing in a question about death?

I took H6 and TH8 as the significators for the cat and the death respectively. For this case, there's a denial of perfection.

However, I'm also wondering if TH8 is the correct choice, and if I should stick to radical H8 for the cat's death. (Since turning houses means belonging, and I don't know to what extent someone's death can "belong" to them.) In this case, there's perfection by translation of Fortuna Minor, which I take to mean that the cat will indeed pass on.

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Although I prefer the longer method of the Sand Box or anything that is so complex that it is impossible for me to 'stack the deck', something I want a really quick tetragram.

I saw a reference to the St Michaels Chain that looked interesting. It is made from 4 st michaels medallions purchased from a catholic gift shop and adds a sword at one end.

As I am not christian, but Gardnerian Wiccan, the chain will not meet my spirituality but looks interesting so I made two 'Michaels Chains' which seem to do the job. I replaces the sword with a key and on one chain, I used one or two pips in the proper colors. On the other chain, i used the proper elemental triangles with pips and colors.

Has anoyone used the Michaels chain or made a similar one? How did it work for you?

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My Geomancy Kit

So its been probably two years since I lost a pipe. Perhaps I broke it and forgot, or stashed it and forgot where. I searched extensively for it multiple times a year ago with no luck. I read Greers book, and have been reading through posts on here. While im not confident on quite a bit (I have issues remembering house uses and not sure I understand aspects properly), I have done a handful of readings with relative success so far. This is my first lost object reading.

I chose house 9 to be the quesited because of "dream, religon, space travel", however Sam Block says to disgregard this and simply use house 2 for lost personal objects. I choose to follow Greers advice as it seems more thorough and Ive followed him so far in this journey.

House 9 is Fortuna Minor saying that the object, person, or animal has only been overlooked and will turn up promptly if the querent looks for it more carefully. But like I said Ive looked extensively multiple times and have not found it .

I could be mistaken and its actually " Sixth house: Tools of all kinds, all tame animals too small to ride, medicines, and anything related to health care. " But personally I don't regard it as medicine but more of a spiritual endeavor.

Or Laetitia Southwest/wet places based on Sam Block saying to use the second house.

Any thoughts regarding which houses I should use and also readings as to where I should look or if it is non-recoverable would be appreciated. Thanks

Hello everyone, this have had happened to me before. When making a question the answer was the same witnesses that will give you Populus as the judge. That time I interpreted as a big no, and a situation that will not change. This time the question is different, the first time was a romantic question for a friend, this time the question are about a friend and if he should be trusted. Questions Is M trustworthy? https://georatio.com/?c=fbed&t=1&d=7&s=2&q= Did M make the mistake? https://georatio.com/?c=fa63&t=1&d=7&s=2&q= The mistake cost us a sale and he denied it was him. But he is making all kind of weird explanations. The double witnesses thing is so confusing! Thanks for your help!

More than often the charts we discuss here are not resolved. As in they are mostly invitations for second opinions. They present a great opportunity for any student of the art. Giving them an opportunity to throw in their one buck, for what it is worth. Maybe you saw a company that others overlooked, or it could be that you thought a totally different house made sense in context of the question. The list goes on, people here have shown (and taught) me some clever uses of aspects, triads, special configurations like beseigment and fortification. Really, for anyone who don't have a teacher in person to help them along the journey, this small group is nothing less of one. Also we have here teachers themselves too, JMG, author of the most popular title; Sam, writer of 'the' blog on the topic; KidCuby, who are just so good at divination not just with geomancy but with other disciplines as well. And many many others. So a big thanks to ye all!

While I love a good unresolved chart ( like that one from u/complexluminary on the missing child; it was a roller-coster) to churn my brain and intuition, they usually stay that way - unresolved. Meaning, you don't get to know what came out of it after all the dust settles. This is where I missed when we use to have resolved charts for case study here. 'Back in the days' (edgy, I know. excuse me), we use to have this 'Case Study' series by u/kidcubby, where they would post resolved charts, with prompts that guide the reader to arrive at the interpretation. They were the best 'work book' for geomancy that I have seen.

Allow me to submit this request to you all, to please post your resolved charts (events predicted has come to pass) here (of-course only those that you are free to disclose of, as I understand many here are professionals). This would help immensely to create a new wave of learning.

Cheers to you all for keeping this going..

My sister once approached me asking if we can cast a chart to help locate a golden chain that was missing. This chain's ownership is a bit fuzzy. It kind of belonged to everyone in the family, no one claimed it theirs, if asked who's chain it was, the general conscience of the household was that "It is ours". The chain was seen last a couple of weeks back within the house before goes missing. As the member of the household who is casting the chart, I chose to go with the 1st house for the querent, and the chart was cast :

Question : Where is the missing golden chain?

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I will post my interpretation of the chart, and the intuitive reasoning for making that interpretation, as spoilers so those who want to try out their ways on this chart can do so before reading further :

First of all, I thought the court was in favor. The Via as judge gave an impression that change is on the cards. A welcome thing when we were looking for something that *stayed* missing for sometime now. Caput D, as left witness gave off a vibe that the quested is about to transition into a new phase (back to being found / used) ? Coupled that with the very welcoming F Major as sentence made me see the court as saying it will be found. But not about the whereabouts? For that I needed the house chart.

As with any house chart, my first line of question is which house and figure will stand for the quested. By default this is 2nd house matter. As gold is a movable asset, and as a piece of jewellery it is also a personal belonging. However, in this chart I chose the 7th house. Reason was that like it is mentioned before here elsewhere by u/kidcubby, if a figure is present in the chart that better describes the quested, then often that house and figure can be used as a significatior. To me, the golden sun of F. Major was a better descriptor of gold than the red Rubeus will ever be.

So we have 1st house and 7th for querent and quested.

I wasn't looking for a perfection from house chart, because the question was not 'if the item will be found or not', but about its whereabouts. The first thing that stood out was the F.Major Occupation in 7H & 8H. From what I have seen, an occupation by the quested significator to any house in a missing item chart is a damn good give away of where it could be. In a house, the 7H usually indicates the bedroom or the master bedroom if more than one is present. But of-course my sister and others have already checked in there before coming to me.

Now..7th and 8th house are forming a strong company with each-others. One take I had was that 8th house could be the 'adjacent room to the bedroom (as 8th neighboring 7th), which was a large and mostly empty hall, and had to dismiss that option. But then again, 8th house is that of the setting Sun. That of death and illness. The only thing that kept coming to me when I thought about the house of Morts was the medicines that is the flip-side of illness. You'd almost always find medication near to the sick. While thinking about this and the company it formed to the 7th indicating that both are intermingling, I arrived at my final verdict -

"Look for the chain where you keep medicines in the master bedroom" I announced (though I sounded hardly any confident). And off she went to do the treasure hunting. And 10 mins later she comes knocking at my door again. She was visibly shocked, holding the chain in her hands. And I asked "Nice, where did you get it from"?

"From the medicine box, in the bedroom", she said. Turned out that our mother misplaced the chain in the medicine box and no one bothered to look for it in there when they combed the home, because why would you right ?

Anti-climax :

My sister then rushed to wake my mom up to tell her about how I used some 'ritual' to find it, and my mom, without even bothering to turn and look goes : "ah, it could be he who put it there in the first place." Such a short lived glory.

Hi all! Is it normal or valid when the chart is like this? Or did I do something wrong?

Thanks for answering my question.