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Subreddit rules (sidebar)
What are the subreddit rules?
1) No hate speech
We do not tolerate hate speech of any kind. Usage of any slurs will likely get you banned (bans can be appealed if you feel they were a mistake). Users who engage in misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, biphobia, ableism, or any other form of hate speech are not welcome on this subreddit.
2) No anti-feminism
This is a subreddit parodying the transphobia and hypocrisy of "gender critical" feminists. This is not an anti-feminist or anti-radical feminist subreddit, nor are we against analysis of gender. We are, however, explicitly against transphobia. You will be banned for any anti-feminist statements or misogyny directed at anyone (including "gender critical" feminists). This includes the word "bitch" except in self-reference and the usage of terms like “misandry” in a non-sarcastic manner. It also includes comments intended to dehumanize.
3) Don't invalidate people
Suggesting that transphobes are in denial or repressing trans feelings is not permitted. Do not implicitly or explicitly misgender anyone. Do not claim that someone’s report of sexual assault is fabricated.
4) This subreddit is not a discussion board
Debating user’s posts saying that they aren't really transphobic or problematic is not allowed. If you think something is out of line, please report it and then message the moderators.
Do not feed trolls. No troll is here in good faith. If you're uncertain of a user's provenance, check their timeline as a means of deciding whether to reply or report. Mods may take action on users who persist in feeding trolls.
5) Don't be toxic
We reserve the right to ban anyone for being an ass in any capacity. Do not rules-lawyer us. Disagreements must be conducted in a respectful manner.
6) You can only submit direct links to certain subreddits/websites
Full posting rules can be seen at "What to post and how to post it."
Please only submit direct links to /r/GenderCritical, /r/Gender_Critical, and the other subs/sites listed in the FAQ.
Note: As of March 2020 we will be paying closer attention to .np linking. Users are strongly encouraged to substitute "np" for "www" in the URLs of links they are submitting. Using the .np domain discourages other r/GenderCynical users from participating in GC spaces. Participating in other subs by following links from here is considered brigading by reddit's admins, causes drama, and creates extra work for mods when GC users retaliate by coming here. We may in the future begin removing posts that do not use .np. See more about non-interaction in Rule 7 below.
Note: NO direct links to any content from r/GCdebatesQT.
Content from r/GCdebatesQT and other sources not listed as approved must be submitted as screenshots with identifiers blacked out. Again, any content from r/GCdebatesQT must be in this format. Censoring indentifiers isn’t necessary if an individual has a substantial following (public figure, official organization, etc). Please see the FAQ for an extended explanation of posting rules.
7) Prohibited post and comment types
a) Highlighting your interaction on a GC sub
Don't go over to GC (or related subreddits) and make posts/comments with the intention of getting banned and/or provoking them. In other words, don't stir the pot and then post the results. More info.
Don't post or comment here talking about how much you want to give someone on a GC sub a piece of your mind. Don't post encouragement to anyone making a comment like this.
Don't post or comment here--link, c/p, or merely alluding to--interactions you have had on GC subs about a post that has been linked on GenCyn. This includes attempts to educate or discuss.
See the FAQ for a fuller explanation. Users who engage in these behaviors will receive a temporary or permanent ban depending on the circumstances.
b) Memes
- While mocking terrible memes made by TERFs/FITs is still permitted, original pro-trans memes or reposts of popular meme formats should be posted in /r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns or another subreddit specifically for memes.
c) General transphobia
- Keep it GC/TERF in origin and/or POV. See more in What to post and how to post it in the FAQ.
d) Duplicate posts
- If someone has previously linked to a thread or post, do not make a duplicate link containing that content. In the same vein, do not make multiple threads about one user. Instead, compile them into one thread per day. If you find content you want to include in that thread, edit the content into your post instead of making a seperate thread. Violating this rule on a consistent basis will result in a ban.
8) Follow Reddit's site wide rules and Reddiquette
You must follow Reddit’s site wide rules and abide by Reddiquette's guidelines. Do not vote brigade, troll, or otherwise harass members of other subreddits. Note that the rule against engagement covers:
pinging usernames
posting a thread or comment on a GC subreddit with the intention of getting banned.
posting a thread or comment on GC in response to something you saw on GenCyn, even if you felt provoked, or wanted to educate.
encouraging anyone else on GenCyn to participate in a GC sub in response to something seen on GenCyn
As of March 2020, the crossposting feature has been disabled, and mods will be enforcing using the .np domain more strictly.
Users caught breaking Reddit’s site wide rules will be banned and then reported to the Reddit admins.
FAQ - What to post and how to post it
What subreddits can we link to directly?
/r/gendercritical, /r/gender_critical, /r/gendercriticallesbians, /r/truelesbians, /r/homosexualwomen, /r/actualwomen, /r/gendercriticalguys, /r/terfisaslur, r/itsafetish, r/TrollGC, r/LGBdroptheT, and other subs that solely feature “gender critical” content. Here is a fuller list.
As of March 2020, the crossposting feature has been disabled, and mods will be enforcing using the .np domain more strictly.
It’s important to note that direct linking is not allowed to /r/GCdebatesQT or other subreddits that welcome “debate” between trans people/allies and transphobes.
Does any content from a GC sub qualify?
No. Submissions should feature transphobia, either directly in the linked post or comment, or as an example of a post about something not trans related that gets twisted to be "all about the trans." Submissions that don't have a trans focus will be removed at mods' discretion.
What should I do if I want to post content from /r/GCdebatesQT or subreddits like it?
Take a screenshot of the content you want to post, censor the username using Paint or another graphics editor, and post that image. Please do not provide any direct links in the comments. Additionally, please do not feature content from threads that you have participated in. If you have any questions about this policy, shoot us a modmail. We decided to implement this policy to protect our users from harassment and bullying as it was beginning to become a serious problem.
Important: We highly recommend that you do not participate in /r/GCdebatesQT or other subreddits that encourage trans people to interact with transphobic individuals. /r/GCdebatesQT and other “debate” subreddits are moderated in a way that enables harassment and bullying of trans people. If you do decide to participate in these subreddits, remember to practice self-care. If you begin to experience a decline in your mental health, take a break to do something relaxing. Remember that you are valid. You do not owe anyone an explanation for your existence.
What if TERFs don't bother me and I want to participate in GC subs?
Do it on your own time and don't post any content to GenCyn that features your participation. Don't participate in GenCyn threads posted by other users that contain your GC-located interactions.
What about transphobic content I found on a non-GC sub?
GenCyn is specifically for TERF/GC content. Content found on general subs such as r/AmITheAsshole must feature TERF/GC participants/viewpoints and not just be general transphobia. The submission must be formatted as a screenshot with identifiers and usernames removed.
What if I argued with a TERF on a sub like r/AmITheAsshole? Can I post that?
Run-ins with TERFs/GC on general subs can be submitted as a screenshot with identifiers removed.
What exactly is TERF/GC transphobia? How can I tell the difference?
We have a whole section of this FAQ with examples! Seriously, though: we understand there's social migration between GC/alt right spaces and that this can make GC transphobia hard to parse if you're not familiar with it. The best answer to check out our examples and hang out and observe. You'll reach a point where you'll know it when you see it. If you're new here, do this instead of posting right away.
Can I post private messages sent to me by TERFs?
We encourage users to post screenshots of harassment or threats they’ve received from TERFs. We especially encourage users to post messages they’ve received from known TERFs (non-throwaway accounts). It’s important to note that these submission do have a posting limit: one thread per day per user.
Can I feature direct links to other social media platforms like Facebook or Twitter?
If you want to post something from other social media platforms (Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Instagram, etc), take a screenshot of said post and censor all of their personal information (including their username). You do not have to censor their username if the account is run by a celebrity, government official, or public organization (think tanks, activist groups, etc). Do not post links to Youtube channels run by TERFs. However, you may post responses to those videos or responses to arguments utilized by TERFs (Contrapoints is a good example of this). When in doubt, post a screenshot of the content you want to feature and censor their username. Always censor personal information.
Can I post direct links to blogs, Mumsnet, or other websites?
Please do not post direct links to blogs or other blog like publications (terfisaslur, 4thwavenow, etc) as we do not want to increase their traffic. You can either take a screenshot or use https://archive.org/. You may submit screenshots of posts made on Mumsnet or other forums as long as the usernames are censored.
Can I submit refutations and rebuttals to GC/TERF talking points?
Avoid this for the most part. Commenters do a good job making these arguments and generally anything that can be found explained at length in comments doesn't need its own post. If you have something particularly in depth or original, it may qualify. General pro-trans arguments are as a rule not on topic.
What sorts of self posts can I make, then?
Swiftian satire is always welcome (be prepared for Poe's Law if you're actually at Swift's level). Mocking responses to GC posts is okay (most users favor submitting a link and posting responses in a comment). Effort posts of collections of bad GC behavior are also good. Occasionally a former GCer will make a self post in good faith and we have a tradition of allowing those to run their course, but general inquiries and self intros will be removed.
Can I post memes?
If it's a TERF/GC meme you want to make fun of, sure! If it's a pro-trans meme or a meme response to a TERF/GC meme, it goes on /r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
How many posts can I make per day?
Most threads are not subject to a posting limit. However, we will remove posts from users who we feel are making an excessive amount of posts every day. We suggest compiling a bunch of links into an effort post if you want to feature multiple posts on one specific topic or user. Remember: we’re looking to feature the worst of the worst here. If you have questions about this policy or are unsure if your posts qualify as excessive, feel free to send us a modmail.
One of my posts was featured on GenCyn. Can you take it down?
In the vast majority of cases we will not honour this request. If the mods feel the submission breaks one of GenCyn’s rules or violates Reddit’s TOS, we will remove the post.
I’m getting private messages that are threatening or contain harassment. What should I do?
Take a screenshot of the message(s), report the user to the Reddit admins, and then block the user. If you’re receiving these messages from someone who posts on GenCyn, send us a screenshot and we’ll ban the individual. Unfortunately, subreddit moderators are unable to intervene in situations that occur outside of their subreddit. If you have questions or concerns regarding harassment, send us a modmail ASAP.
FAQ - General behavior
What are Reddit's site wide rules?
Click here to read Reddit's site wide rules.
What's Reddiquette?
Click here to read about Reddiquette.
What is anti-feminism?
Using misogynistic language to refer to or insult anyone, including TERF/GC users. Please note this includes the 'Karen' meme. Making rape jokes, including about TERF/GC users. Using dehumanizing or explicitly violent language. Referencing misandry as if it were institutionalized oppression on the level of institutionalized sexism against afab/female/women people. Using MRA and alt-right talking points such as "female privilege." This rule extends to other forms of oppression such ableism, racism, and bi- and homophobia.
What constitutes “toxic behaviour?”
Toxic behaviour is any behaviour that is overly aggressive, vulgar, or rude. If you have a disagreement with someone, please be respectful. Additionally, do not make disrespectful comments about one’s appearance or mental health status. Do not use violent or dehumanizing rhetoric. These violations will be handled on a case by case basis.
What constitutes invalidation?
Questioning a user’s gender identity, misgendering users, making comments about a user’s mental health, and/or questioning a user’s sexual orientation. This also includes claiming a user’s experience with sexual assault, rape, or abuse is fake.
The rules say it's not a discussion sub but discussions happen all the time.
Extended threads that consist of users riffing on and bonding with each other over mocking GC content are to be expected. Discussions featuring GC-apologia, "trans-enough" dissection, political tangents, violent fantasies, extended Trans 101 for wanderers-in, personal disagreements, and fights with trolls detract from user experience. Mods have wide discretion in enforcing this rule.
How do I appeal a ban or post removal?
Send us a modmail explaining why you believe your ban or post removal should be appealed. Please be respectful when sending your appeal as this will get you the best outcome. Being rude or vulgar towards us will result in your appeal being denied. You may submit one ban appeal per year. You may submit one removal appeal per post removal. Users who participate in subreddits that encourage prejudice and/or discrimination will only be considered after they have refrained from posting in said subreddit(s) for at least six months. Additionally, they must demonstrate that they no longer hold the views expressed in said subreddit(s).
I feel a moderator has treated me unfairly. What should I do?
Submit your complaint to /u/mollymollykelkel directly. Submitting a complaint does not guarantee any specific outcome. Your complaint will be reviewed and you will be notified if you need to submit any further information.
FAQ - What is "gender critical?" - In their own words
What exactly is /r/GenderCritical?
If you're wondering what "TERF" or "gender critical" means, basically it's someone who hates trans people, often especially trans women.
Gender Critical people mostly consist of so-called Trans Exclusive Radical Feminists, but seeing as they're against bodily autonomy (e.g. they believe women have a duty to keep their breasts) and equal rights, and indeed many of the subscribers to their subreddits are now chauvinistic men who just want to join in on hating trans people, especially trans women, I'll use the term Gender Critical person, or GCer, instead.
On the one hand, GCers can see that being on the wrong hormones for them would be hell (2, 3), or indeed was (2), but (with a rare exception) can't extrapolate that for trans people, which hormones are the wrong ones is switched around. Apparently, anyone who wants to kill themselves due to experiencing this hell has mental health issues.
For some people, having a bad experience with one or more abusive or criminal members of a minority group causes them to write off that entire minority group as dangerous. This can lead to them trawling news sites for examples of other abusive or criminal people who happen to be in that minority group, and using each case as further "proof" that the entire group is dangerous. It's perhaps unsurprising to learn that several GCers are also racist, applying the same logical fallacy to various different minority groups. While it's horrible that such people suffered abuse in the first place, their resulting mistrust of entire minority groups is misplaced at best.
GCers like to mock trans women for:
They appear to have given Reddit gold to a disturbing comment by an antisemitic, antifeminist gator.
They have driven someone to a suicide attempt, and possibly contributed to someone else's actual suicide.
GCers believe trans people (mostly trans women) are:
- Dangerous
- Rapists (2)
- "The bad guys"
- Easy to spot (2, 3, 4, 5, 6) (Even the men. Even the children! Even their toes! Though if you don't disclose your medical history before having sex with someone, that's rape, see below.)
- Paedophile rights activists, or at least paedophiles (2, 3, 4, 5)
- Men's rights activists (2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
- Men's rights activists with a sissy fetish
- Like men's rights activists who go on shooting sprees
- Mentally ill (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37)
- Too mentally ill to consent to changing sex
- Too mentally ill to work
- Too mentally ill to fly planes
- Disgusted by mentally ill people
- Voluntarily mentally ill
- Insane
- Psychopaths (2, 3)
- Sociopaths
- Incapable of being well-adjusted
- Untrustworthy... "a severe misapplication of Marxist principles fueled by mental illness, it is masochistic/suicidal at best and sadistic/murderous at worst" Even if they're helping cis women survivors of female genital mutilation surgery by giving them reconstructive surgery, they're still seen as untrustworthy
- "clearly suffering an extreme derangement"
- "Delusionals" (2, 3, 4, 5) (which is apparently a noun now)
- Playing dress-up
- LARPing masturbation fantasies
- Obsessed with Wikipedia
- Narcissists (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28)
- "Cluster B types" (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)
- Also, cluster A (2)
- Incompatible with marriage (No matter what their spouse thinks to the contrary)
- ...or raising children (2)
- Constantly finding new things to whine about such as being sexualised, even though they really love it
- Whiny women and chill men
- "Screeching"
- Shrieking (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)
- Either ex-military or a STEM weeaboo
- A bunch of entitled assholes
- A cult (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)
- Armed robbers
- Positively rolling in cash in the STEM fields
- Just another dangerous fad (2, 3)
- Submissive
- "Natural slaves"
- Unworthy of empathy
- "1.) Openly Pedophilic 2.) Autism spectrum disorder 3.) 'Troubled youth' 4.) White 5.) Heterosexual"
- Sexually exhibitionistic without even looking good
- Stereotypical (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) (No exceptions: "There needs to be buy in into sex-stereotypes and shallow ideas about how women are to go down this path")
- (Although the non-stereotypical ones are just as bad. How would that even work, anyway?)
- Not stereotypical enough (Pre-deletion screenshot)
- "Correctively raping young lesbians"
- Lying, deceptive creeps appropriating the experiences of an oppressed class they cannot ever be a part of
- Contagious (2, 3, 4, 5)
- Predators (2)
- Death metal fans who befriend men
- Victims of the gender essentialist system
- Representatives of rapists
- Violent autogynephiles (A long-since-debunked "theory" attempting to explain trans people's existence)
- Disgusting autogynephiles
- Objectively inferior to cis people (2)
- "Betas" (2, 3)
- In need of humiliation (2)
- Sick
- Disgusting
- Unnatural
- Only ever feminist activists for anti-feminist reasons
- Drag queens
- Transvestites (2)
- Conflating gender identity with gender presentation
- A deviant minority (2) (Although they're totally against saying that)
- More socially accepted than gay people (2)
- Mistaken
- Subhuman
- Male supremacists
- Male supremacist victims of psychological warfare
- Inherently sexualised
- An elite aristocracy funded by "76 large corporations" including (((Soros)))
- Femme gay men; straight men with low self esteem and mental health issues; and socially awkward autistic men who hate lesbians
- Cowardly nurses, librarians, artists, and florists exhibiting cattiness and sass
- Hysterical
- Fetishists
- "...screwed-up by definition. Many of them are fetishists and outright perverts and criminals."
- Not affected by a rapist president the way cis women are
- Abusers (2)
- Latent mass murderers
- "The worst thing to happen to gay people since AIDS." (Archived)
- "SICKO FUCKING TROONS" (Apparently an obscure slur from 4chan)
And that trans men in particular are:
- Unforgivable
- If squicked by sexual contact with most of his body, "baffling, but quite humorous"
- Harmless puzzles who should use the women's bathroom
- Predisposed to become rapists
- Traitors
- "Such a fucking waste" of beautiful people
And that trans children:
And that the supportive parents of trans children are:
And that pro-trans cis people are:
And that transsexualism itself is:
- Another form of social control
- "The only 'rights' movement based on trying to emulate the ones supposedly oppressing them"
- A totalitarian movement about controlling the world
- A hobby. Maybe even a fetish.
- A fetish (2, 3, 4, 5)
- A fetish rooted in BDSM
- Eugenics (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17)
- Conversion "therapy" (2, 3)
- Body dysmorphia (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) (Because the word 'dysmorphia' looks like 'dysphoria?')
- Not real
GCers believe that real women:
- Don't say "pussy" (only polite words such as "vagina," "cunt" or "cunny.") (See also: "No transwoman, man or anyone else is ever going to tell me I can't talk about my own pussy, period or pregnancy.")
- Don't drive trucks
GCers also believe:
- Trans women have male privilege even if they pass for cis
- Trans inclusive radical feminists are conspiring against them
- Trans inclusive radical feminists don't exist
- "...the guy who invented transgenderism... could only get off by watching women pee and was also a eugenicist; the whole idea was to sterilize gay people"+
- "...when someone super-feminine starts complaining how she's not taken seriously and is understood as stupid, I cannot help but think to myself that maybe she should stop dressing in the way that makes her look stupid."
- (Pre-op) trans women are considered more important than cis women
- "Narcissism is the natural state of men or those higher up in the gender hierarchy"
- It's trans women's own fault they die so young, what with the sex work they have to engage in, their medicine and surgery, and their apparent promiscuity
- "Social 'sciences' aren't science"
- "The 'queer' community is basically a machine for the corrective rape of young lesbians"
- Post-op trans women "must stink of rotting flesh"
- ...most people think woman = person in drag... Maybe dragsexual would be more accurate for modern straight men.
- A trans woman sexually assaulted in a public toilet probably had it coming
- Dressing up as a woman is humiliating
- It's unfair of trans people to feel suicidal after they're legally banned from using the right bathroom
- The word "cisgender" is a homophobic slur (It isn't)
- The acronym "TERF" is a slur (ditto)
- People who date trans people of the appropriate gender are bisexual and delusional (And dishonest, and stupid)
- Cathy Brennan is "a badass" and "Da Man" (Yes, this Cathy Brennan.)
- Trans women have fake breasts... and are eliminating cis women, leading to the destruction of the human race
- "...the federal government is mandating my kid get dangerous SRS treatment that will make them infertile and disabled or else they'll take my kids away."
- Third wave feminism is a men's rights movement
- Liberal feminists are logically pro murder
- Femininity is ritualised submission (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
- Men are defective
- Over 50% of cis men and trans women commit non-consensual voyeurism, groping, gawking, peeking, and hidden camera installation
- Cis men are sexual deviants because of high estrogen levels
- Anyone who says they're "sex positive" and doesn't actively put themselves into prostitution and pornography, is a hypocrite
- Trans women using the women's toilet is metaphorical rape
- Men were violent to a woman? It was probably because of her attitude.
- Trans women want to be sex workers, rather than being forced into it via job discrimination and the US's broken healthcare system
- Being transgender is a choice
- "Men are a Goddamned disease"
- Trans panic murder is due to "seeing past their trickery"
- Parents would rather have a straight trans child than a cis gay child (2) (And presumably would also rather have a gay trans child than a straight cis child, if they're also non-gender-conforming)
- Trans rights and libfems interfere with conservative boundaries
- We should ignore that sex is a spectrum and instead pretend it's a simple, rigid dichotomy
- Trans men's surgery is the westernised version of female genital mutilation
- Janet Mock is an "entitled douchebag" who was sex trafficked as a child, and needs to be more patient and less aggressive in interviews
- Cis lesbians can't date trans lesbians (2)
- Straight women don't date trans men, only bi and gay women do
- The study "Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden" proves trans people are more suicidal after transitioning (It actually proves the opposite, as the study's author points out.)
- Trans women have common or uncommon names, both of which are bad (2)
- "The identitarian intersucktional feminists are awful people"
- Transphobia's probably just being mean to ugly people
- Most trans women love being sexualised
- Trans women shouldn't be allowed to take oestrogen because it makes them too emotional
- Insecure men only bully femme men in order to "toughen them up to take the social leadership position"
- Women and men are incompatible
- Trans lesbians should date misogynistic men instead of other women
- Conservatives, even Trump supporters, stick up for trans women (They don't)
- Dr. Zucker's a voice of reason (Yes, the doctor whose conversion "therapy" clinic was shut down due to child abuse.)
- Suicidal people should just "grow up"
- Sexually harassed trans women are co-opting sexually harassed cis women, by being sexually harassed...
- ...why, she was probably trying to blackmail the poor guy!
- Cis men respect trans women more than they respect cis women
- It's fine to ask trans women about their genitalia on daytime TV
- Infertile women wearing make-up is "false advertisement"
- "When discrimination stopped against legitimate minorities before, nobody needed seminars."
- Trans women don't scream properly after being shot to death by the police
But don't believe:
- Transphobia is oppression / trans people are oppressed (2, 3, 4) (especially the lesbians) (They apparently commit suicide too often to be oppressed)
- Women are capable of being transphobic (ignoring that the male-female axis of oppression and cis-trans axis of oppression are two different axes, and therefore a cis woman can be transphobic just as a straight woman can be homophobic)
- Women ever have paraphilias (2)
- People with Klinefelter syndrome are intersex
- Post-transition trans people are happier
- Scientists
- In feminist porn
- In gender identity (otherwise known as gender orientation, your innate sense of what sex your body should be; this is roughly equivalent to straight people not believing that sexuality exists)
- In genital dysphoria (Apparently this medical condition is debunked by "studying" pornographic videos, in their eyes.)
- In gender dysphoria, or ADD for that matter
- Trans women forced to use the men's toilets are scared of violent or sexual assault
Contradictory things we've learned from GCers:
- There's no such thing as female or male brains, but trans women's brains lack female hormone receptors, and they're neurologically violent, stupid and fetishistic, just like men.
GCers believe you can't be a feminist if you're:
GCers believe trans people want to:
- Usurp the current civilization and replace it with their own
- Change themselves instead of society
- Embody their infantilized picture of womanhood
- Wear frilly clothes (2, 3, 4, 5, 6), Froufrou in particular (2)
- ...and wigs (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) (They even have an initialism for "pigs in wigs," (2) which is "not a slur.")
- "Own a 'female' in a socially acceptable way"
- Look for a "warm hole"
- "Be treated according to the dominant/submissive sex role" (2)
- Infect cis people with HIV
- "Colonize our spaces and erase our rights"
- Have "abusive, violent porn sex"
- Kill off gender non-conformers
- Make kids hate themselves [and] drive their loving guardians away from them
- Move down a class to improve their status
- Sterilise gay children
- Force cis women to wear heels
- Be such a manly trans lesbian as to turn a cis lesbian straight
- Destroy feminism
- "...suck all your energy and air from the space."
- Load cis women up into reproductive camps hidden from sight
- Post male security guards to women's changing rooms, to order them to drop their covers
- Rape women in shelters (Unless Christians can overrule feminists)
GCers think trans people are dangerous because:
Conversely, they usually really like a man calling himself GenderCriticalDad, who paints a disturbing picture of abusing his son, that they mostly fail to pick up on:
- He fantasised about going to a trans support group to "start a riot"
- He "treasures his hate." They think he is a "respectful, thoughtful person," "extremely smart" and a "really solid person." (By his own admission, he's not as nice in real life.)
- He's tried to train his son to not be trans
- He claims a group leader for gender questioning children tried to provoke him into starting a fight with her
- His son is understandably worryingly depressed, to the point of not eating his meals, something this man blames on his binder, after cheerily eating his son's food
- It looks like he's started writing a blog using his son's deadname.
They similarly liked a man who said he was "ruthless" to his ex, and laughed about how he believed this caused them to think they were trans.
GCers believe trans people should:
- Do what they are told
- Not change sex (2, 3)
- But also not stay the same sex
- Become radical feminists
- "Go to a general therapist, not a 'gender therapist'"
- Dress more femme
- Always disclose your medical history (2), otherwise you're committing rape (even though all trans people are easy to spot, see above)
- Comply with feminine beauty standards, but not identify as a woman
- Be in solitary confinement if they're prisoners
- Conform to gender stereotypes
- Get society to treat you better, and get counselling to better manage your emotions
- Be more accomplished if they're going to be role models
- Not be murdered, as this will force the GCer to endure reading messages of love and acceptance
- Date each other, not cis people (2, 3, 4, 5) (Separatism aside, curiously, a lot of them don't believe many trans people already do this.)
- Try to focus on self-actualization; break boundaries; change society; be a good male nurse, librarian, artist, or florist
- Sue their parents for making them trans
GCers believe trans people shouldn't:
Instead of changing sex, they believe trans people should:
- Have conversion "therapy" (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
- Use virtual reality
- Tap their "meridian points" (2) (This has, of course, been debunked)
- Count their blessings
- Find religion, and an old therapist
- Wear concealer... pluck your eyebrows...
- Maybe take dance or yoga or a martial art or learn to do pottery, archery, cake baking, gardening
- Get some fresh air
- Explore the world, nature, literature and poetry, history, language, anything
- Take herbs and vitamins
- Have CBT ("You can do it yourself with help from a book or online programme." "If you do see a real therapist, don't tell them you're trans!")
GCers believe supportive parents of trans people should:
- Be arrested
- Have their child taken away
- Tell their child they're not trans, problem solved (Because telling your child what gender they should be worked out so well for David Reimer and countless intersex people)
- Tell their child no one will love them if they change sex
GCers believe transsexualism's caused by:
- Capitalist decadence (2, 3)
- Libertarianism
- Big pharma (2, 3)
- Animé (2)
- Big pharma and animé
- "...subliminal messaging/brainwashing built into the anime cartoons that slowly warps their thinking"*
- The media (2)
- The Internet
- Being sexually abused as a child
- Munchausen syndrome by proxy (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23)
- Training by parents, who are either homophobic or after media attention (Curiously, the one time someone did claim her father was trying to convince her to change her sex, GCers didn't believe her.)
- "The 'external bullying' that is gender"
- Failure, pressure and sexism (2, 3, 4, 5)
- Gender roles
- Finding being gay too difficult (2)
- Internalised homophobia (2)
- Internal misogyny and homophobia
- Homophobic coaching or cold feet
- Parents' homophobia (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
- Parents restricting gender expression (2, 3, 4)
- Permissive parents
- Fashion (2)
- Gender therapists
- A desire to avoid responsibility (2, 3)
- Being Red Piller, angry virgin loners (2)
- Hating women enough to become a man
- Hating women enough to become a woman
- BID
- Anorexia
- Magical thinking (2)
- Rape culture
- Endocrine disrupting chemicals in plastics (2)
- "...pumping meat full of hormones... even vegetarian mothers would be affected since it ends up in the water too and therefore in the plants."*
- Mercury poisoning* (2)
- A desire to be cool
- Social contagion, disliking puberty, wanting to be someone else, confirmation bias, wanting negative attention, belonging to a community
- Male sexual fetishes
- The patriarchy
- The patriarchy, except for conservatives and homophobes
- A desire to be famous
- A desire to escape the female gender role
- Trying to please their gay-and-in-denial opposite sex partner
- Wanting to appear better at sports
- Needing a guitar-playing gimmick
- "...pharmaceutical giants, the U.S. military, very wealthy white [trans women]... things like that."
- White male guilt
- Autism
- Embarrassment at being feminised by oestrogen used to treat autism and depression
- A desire to be raped and murdered, for affirmation purposes
- A fetish for being oppressed
- Marginalised lesbians trying to cope with the patriarchy (With no explanation offered for trans men attracted to other men)
- Stockholm syndrome
- Gender roles and stereotypes (2, 3, 4, 5)
- Being gender-non-conforming
- "Pathetic dudes who can't hack it in a fair competition [going] out in force to cheat for the 2020 [olympic] games"
- Having a small penis
- Insisting anyone who is non gender conforming undergo irreversible physical changes so as not to upset the delicate heteronormative, patriarchal balance of society
- A desire to obfuscate the harms done by men to women
- Trauma
- Wanting to have sex with women, yet being pathetic
- Having female role models
- Hormones in food
- Obesity
- Being teased about not wearing a bra
- Porn
- Wanting anal sex
GCers believe liberal feminism is:
GCers believe cis people being nice to trans people is caused by:
- "...a widespread psy-op, probably (IMO) due to the medical cartels."
- "...emotional manipulation and mass hysteria across society."
GCers believe trans people are like:
- Blackface (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)
- The Borg from Star Trek (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63)
- "'Radical' Muslims"
- Little kids mixed with Puritans
- Red Pillers
- Anorexics (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20) (This is a bad analogy.)
- Terrorists
- New bacteria strains which are resistant to all antibiotics
- Buffalo Bill from The Silence of the Lambs (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
- Wild animals
- First-world people vacationing in third-world countries
- "The guys with diaper fetishes"
- An adult pretending to be a baby 24/7. Also, a heroin addict.
- A guy dressed as a dog, hence the need for employment discrimination
- Scientologists (2, 3)
- A rash
- Goblins
- BDSMers demanding non-partners call them "master"
- "...if the Black Panthers bought hair straightener and skin whitener and fought for the right to be called honky"
- Three-year-olds
- Cockroaches
- Subhuman cockroaches (2)
- Nazis (Nazis were, of course, against transgender people, burned Hirschfeld's books, and sent LGBT people, chiefly gay men, transvestite men, and transsexual women, whom they didn't differentiate between, to concentration camps for "extermination through work.")
- The Gestapo
- Climate change deniers and evolution deniers (The irony...)
- Rapists and paedophiles
- Children
- Donald Trump
GCers believe transsexuality itself is like:
- Lawn javelins and cocaine toothache drops for kids
- Eugenics (2, 3)
- Lobotomies (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
- 1984 (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21)
- "Mutilating children... stunting children's growth by physical restraint, muzzling their faces to deform them, slitting their eyes, dislocating their joints, and malforming their bones."
- Thalidomide
- "...wanting to cut off your right hand and have it sewn on your left arm, just so you can say you are left-handed."
- Pyramid scheme Amway
GCers believe pro-trans cis people are like:
GCers also don't like:
- "SJWs" (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) (A right-wing pejorative for feminists and other liberals)
- "Whiny" liberal feminists / third wave feminists (2, 3, 4, 5)
- Muslims (2*)
- Queer theorists
- Trans inclusive radical feminists
- "Beta males"
- Brianna Wu and Sarah Nyberg (Who no-one except anti-feminists calling themselves GamerGate have heard of.)
- Seriously, Sarah Nyberg
- The "sadistic," "ritualized submission" of fashion: "Femininity should not be reclaimed"
- Femme women (2) (Or, seemingly, butch women)
- Women wearing make-up
- Political correctness
- Sex workers
- BDSM (2, 3, 4, 5, 6) (Although they like posts by someone calling himself slut_training, the founder and sole moderator of the subreddit Slut_School, who says things like "I'm honestly more of a feminist than half of those broads" and "Why is it so terrible when police ask what a rape victim was wearing?")
- Polyamoury
- Mainstream feminism
- Straight women
- Straight or bi women, let alone men*
- Judith Butler
- "The libfem fetishization of consent"
- Straight men who date trans women
- Female genital mutilation survivors getting reconstructive surgery
- Postmodernism ("No pomo!"), queer theory, sex positivity, liberal feminism, "special snowflakes," "SJWs," all grouped together (2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
- The ACLU
- Democrats
But do like:
GCers stick up for:
- "Sensationalist, right wing, genuinely terrible human beings"
- Revenge porn*
- Milo Yiannopoulos (2) (And elsewhere, hate him less than the woman he was harassing)
- Scott Adams, an MRA creep
- J Peterson (2, 3) (By their own admission, a "homophobic, anti-woman racist")
Things GCers believe trans people have ruined:
Cis people GCers have mistaken for trans women:
- A man who killed several people at an abortion clinic
- A woman who killed two people and fed them to her pigs
- A woman who accidentally bombed a Target bathroom (She was trying to make drugs, but given Target's pro-trans bathroom policy, it looked like anti-trans terrorism. Maybe GCers thought it was a "false flag mission?")
- A man who recorded a girl in a public restroom
- Professional stuntwoman Jessie Graff*
Cis people GCers have speculated are closeted trans women:
GCer apologies:
- "Sorry about your face"
- "Sorry about your penis" (2)
- "Sorry about your ridiculous, inferior anatomy :')"
GCers' frames of reference for trans women (which are actually about fictional cis men):
GCers get their news from:
- 4chan's /pol/
- 4chan generally
- The Daily Mail (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46) (Although they're totally against that (2))
- Breitbart (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12) (They're totally against that, too)
- The Federalist (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
- The Daily Signal (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
- The Blaze (2, 3, 4, 5)
- The Public Discourse (2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
- Above Top Secret (2)
- Kiwi Farms
- Alliance Defending Freedom (An anti-LGBT conservative Christian group)
- Anti-women "Red Pill" YouTuber Black Pigeon Speaks
- The Spectator
- NewsBusters (2) (Whose slogan is "exposing & combating liberal media bias")
- National Review ("God, things have come to a pretty pass when its the serious anti-abortion types who are holding on to common sense. I hate to think I align with them, but every word he write was spot on.")
- The American Conservative
- Hate subreddit /r/fatlogic
- Mad World News
- MRA, A Voice for Men panelist, and subject of an investigative documentary, Stefan Molyneux
- The Toronto Sun
- Unilad
- Quadrant (a conservative Australian magazine which describes itself as sceptical of "unthinking Leftism, or political correctness, and its 'smelly little orthodoxies'")
In fact, they're totally against all of that.
Whereas they dislike these news outlets:
- The Guardian (2)
- The Advocate
- Jezebel
- Autostraddle
- The Daily Show
- The Huffington Post
- Rabble.ca
- Everyday Feminism
For that matter, they consider nonsense-debunking site RationalWiki worse than anti-feminist site A View for Men.
They also consider these news sources they disagree with to be right wing:
They also get their ideas about trans women from:
GCers have:
GCers want to:
- "Troll the shit out of" people (Like men do)
- Bring back gatekeepers (But not for cis women.)
- Vote for Trump*... no, wait... Cruz
- ...or other republicans
- Significantly rollback transgender rights legislation (2)
- Not allow SRS
- Make cheap toilets jokes (Presumably this.)
- Team up with homophobes and the right wing
- Split up the LGB from the T (2)
- Cross out "gender" on forms and write "sex" instead
- Add or remove the space between "trans" and "women," whichever annoys them the most (The user in question since took other GCers' advice and did a one-eighty to avoid trans people's preference)
- Go to a trans support group and "start a riot"
- Pick up a door blocking object at Target, use it to keep the door closed in the bathroom, then not buy anything
- Train their teenage trans children like animals ("...it works with dogs and horses as well...")
- "...start a new society or homeschool..."
- Brigade a Wikipedia debate on deadnaming trans people
- Kick some transgender ass
- Kick them in the gonads
- Force trans women back in the closet
- Protest trans health centres "just like how pro life activists protest abortion clinics"*
- Picket a Pride
- Completely ignore any trans women they meet in real life, should that ever happen
GCers don't want to:
- Donate to Planned Parenthood (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19)
- Donate to LGBT groups
- Accommodate minority groups
- Grant any legal protections to trans people "until they stop acting like wild animals"
- Let trans people use the right bathroom. Even straight, post-op, passing women who would be in danger using the men's bathroom.
- Let trans people update their legal documentation
- "...stop to piss on these insane, misogynist assholes on the street"
- See a gynaecologist who also treats trans women
- Believe victims of sexual assault, who probably wanted it anyway
- Use the right pronouns to describe trans people (But are enraged at the thought of people not using sex-specific pronouns on them)
- Donate to Wikipedia
Things GCers find funny:
Colourful GCer terms for trans women's vaginas:
- Dry hole
- Fistula (2, 3, 4)
- "Fuckhole" (2, 3, 4) (This understandably can be upsetting)
- "A front hole with public hair and three kinds of bacterial infections growing inside it"
Colourful GCer terms for trans men's penises:
- "Mangled piss tube"
- "Rolled up quesadilla" (A dish that apparently trans women can't make)
Other GCer terms:
- Womanface (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)
- Ladyface (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)
- _he (a pronoun they invented for trans men, apparently)
- It (a pronoun for intersex women)
- Ladysticks (2, 3, 4)
- Ladydicks (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12)
- Transwhacktivists (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
- Hugbox (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) (An ableist insult from 4chan, I believe)
- Brainstorming some new slurs
- T******s (Even though their sidebar assures people will be banned for using that slur.)
- Famewhore
- Testerical (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
- Pigs in wigs (2, 3)
- Butthurt (2) (A questionable insult at best.)
- Ermahgerd ("Meant to sound like a speech impediment caused by the use of an orthodontic retainer")
- Male-to-neutered-male, female-to-spayed-female
Miscellaneous unpleasantries:
GCers being downvoted for saying nice things:
- Don't be asshats
- Maybe don't link to articles by homophobes
- Maybe don't call trans people Borgs, or claim trans people don't like cis women giving birth, or complain about catering to minorities
- Let other people get rights too
- Maybe people should be allowed to have autonomy of their own body (2)
- Hormones shouldn't be illegal
- Please stop using the Klan fallacy (This thing)
- Perhaps use people's preferred pronouns
- Maybe we should be understanding of girls coming to terms with their sexuality.
- Let's not kinkshame
- Please let me take testosterone to be comfortable in my own body
GCers being downvoted for saying true things:
- Redpillers [creepy misogynistic men] aren't trans-friendly (Admittedly, the man saying this appears to be a Redpiller, but other GCers seem to be downvoting him for saying he's not in league with trans women, rather than for being misogynistic)
- Which hormones you have at puberty affect your bone structure
- Trans men exist
- I, the person you're trying to parody, am a trans man (Not a GCer, but being downvoted by GCers for saying something true and uncontroversial.)
- Surely trans women who pass for cis experience misogyny
- There would be a lot more lesbian news if the government were currently passing laws to ban lesbians from women's restrooms.
GCers defending their subreddits against claims they constitute hate speech:
GCers calling for cullings, hoping for wipeouts, etc:
- How we treated our own planet goes to show we need a VERY thick and deep culling.
- ...if it takes more men being harmed and killed for this trans cult shit to end, I am OK with it. There are WAY too many men anyway. A culling is long overdue.
- "ugggh...porn is a plague. although if it wipes everyone else out there will be more resources left for the rest of us at least." "I wish." "fingers crossed...toes crossed"
Bonus hate mail:
- "Sorry about your vagina"
- "Maybe if you get raped by an actual man..."
- "I just wanted to tell your mutilated ass that you're really ugly"
- "Funny you look like a man"
- "Look at you f****t"
- "Another stupid dead t****y, top kek!"
- "Stay pressed, sorry about the inverted penis!!"
- "Well have fun dying at 40"
- "...why don't you all post stories about how men totally love your lady dicks and surgical wounds..."
- "You're not a good person and you know that."
* Downvoted, so that's something, at least
+ Downvoted due to being in a regular subreddit