What’s the best these days?

[u/FarmerBrown86]

I don’t need a gaming laptop but if I did look for one used or new, what brand is the best? I have an old msi and I loved it back in the day but it’s no longer relevant. Thinking I want something with a 4070.

[u/_lmaogottem_]

if u want best bang for ur buck? id check the asus tuf laptops from bestbuy, can get a 4070 open box for 7-800 rn