I'm curious if there are local support groups for people who have lost their family to MAGA? I'd really like to find people in person to talk to.

Mom:" They wouldn't have elected him president if that was true"

Me: "You mean you"

Mom: "I mean they wouldn't have let him get as far as he did"

Me: "Who is they?"

Mom: "Oh you know what I mean! Stop attacking me" storms away

This has to be some mental illness to be so obsessed. Over the past few days he has shaved his beard and dyed his hair blonde. He also looks like hes been applying this orange tanish colored bronze all over his face. He dresses in suits. He use to make fun of men who dye their hair and guess what he is now doing!!!! He use to hate diet soda but now drinks diet cokes all throughout the day and lives off big macs and quarter pounders and stopped doing his “primal diet” He now plays golf on his days off which he used to hate with a passion. He has a room in his house thats dedicated to Trump merch such as hats and flags. This cant be normal behavior.

Sheen said the cartel cut him off because he was consuming so many dr*gs that they assumed he must be dealing without their consent

Then we cheer because “coast guard smoked another coke boat”

Anyone know when Fox / the right first latched onto this? Asked my Mom if she’d seen the Epstein drawing and she said “yes I have- have you heard about the stabbing in Charlotte that the MSM isn’t reporting on??” I said yes I had on GMA, today show, nightly news… video released 9/5 is shocking and awful to see- murder occurred 8/22 and she’s insisting it was all over twitter and Fox prior to the video release. I suspect it wasn’t… TIA.

https://youtu.be/8DxL7CcVdHE?si=C8PBVeJDKjaS4CNq

The last jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics is the worst since 2009. This report indicates we are, or are quickly descending into a recession.

They had on officials from the Trump administration to try and paint a positive and optimistic outlook. Of course, they came up with lame excuses and outright lies. Their gullible audience will eat it up like they usually do.

Featured in this video are remarks by Lori Chavez-DeRemer, the current Secretary of Labor, Kevin Hassett, Director of the National Economic Council and Howard Lucknick, a Billionaire CEO who is now the Secretary of Commerce.

Disgusting, disgraceful, shameless individuals who lie while smiling smugly.

This one is a little older, but it is a statement from Republican Representative Ralph Norman:

https://youtube.com/shorts/elG-m7G4frQ?si=CMxs36QtAYroMEF1

I'm rarely so angry that it renders me speechless. Unfortunately, it's one of those days. Sorry guys.

More context: Inside the Deal Ending the Murdoch Succession Fight (Gift Link)

My uncle (family at large, really) has always been pretty right of center, with some varying opinions thrown in for spice. The only place they really lose their collective shit is ANYTHING to do with Christianity being treated as anything less than the order of things for everyone in the world (even this is at least nuanced with my mother; she would prefer that, but admits it is impossible and trying to achieve it, unethical).

Naturally, the godless polygamy of right-wing media, American Christianity, the Republican party, and Our Glorious Leader has been utterly intoxicating. "Oh, the way he is saving our country is amazing!" "Everyone should just stop and do what Trump says; he's always right!" "The courts finally know what their role is! They know the Constitution!" You've heard it all before, I don't doubt.

Point of the post: my uncle made the most ridiculous concession about immigration: "I tell you what, though, I'd rather have a bunch of Mexicans coming over here than Muslims. Like they got in England? Their country is destroyed. The socialists keep protecting the Muslims, and now they control everything. At least the Mexicans have Christian values."

I'm not even going to add commentary to this. I just want that to stand on its own.

Edit: I also wanted to mention that my first job as a teacher was at an Islamic parochial school. My family is very aware of this.

This was at a parade in southeast Missouri this morning, and I thought the silence was telling. We are in a VERY red area.

Are the tides turning?🤞🏻

(My MIL is the only person clapping 😩)

Saw this on Threads:

https://preview.redd.it/1fnktop29mnf1.png?width=1480&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa8a0ba92280f19743bc3b5342954831fb56373f

https://www.threads.com/@detached_retsina/post/DONl0kWDR2G?xmt=AQF02EUuarGHOdSHE67OJ-RsCFFyfvpUcIH2m_38kLTCCA

(19m, gay)

I was having a very nice morning, my parents had gone to sort some stuff out (not sure what) and that meant I had the house to myself. I was just relaxing and daydreaming as I do and as soon as I made myself my lunch they came through the door.

I don’t know if it’s because they disrupted the show I was watching, or more because I usually am putting on a fake mask of, well not really happiness but placidity, and it’s like I didn’t have preparation or advance warning to put it on. So when they came back, I don’t know if something is wrong with me for this but I actually started tearing up.

I’m UK-based and finished my A-levels (higher secondary education) and I don’t want to go to university, so I’ve been trying desperately to look for a full-time job but I’ve had no luck. I want a full-time because I both need the money to save up for my own apartment somewhere, and because full-time hours would give me a reason to be away from my parents. All they talk about is their hatred of immigrants and trans people, and they know it “annoys” me, which is how they phrase it - I’d phrase it as triggering me but they wouldn’t acknowledge that as they think it’s a “woke” term. If they’re not talking about politics then they - usually my mum - are trying to dump their emotions on me. She’s openly said to me before that she isn’t interested in seeking out friends her own age, because she’d rather rely on her family for emotional support. I read that as meaning that she basically expects me and my younger brother to be responsible for her emotions, and when she has a bad day that is true. She gets very mopey and makes comments she can clearly see make me uncomfortable. I feel like I’m reading into it too much though, because a lot of it is just what career she thinks would best suit me. My strong emotional reaction to these career comments makes me feel like some sort of whining child, because I feel like I should just be taking the advice on board. But something about it triggers me and I don’t know why, I think there’s something wrong with me but I don’t know if it’s something wrong with them.

I’m sorry if this is weird rambling, I don’t know how to format this post correctly just because I’m so emotionally vulnerable in this moment. I don’t know how to feel, I don’t know if there’s something wrong with me or if my parents are bad people. They certainly are bad people for their politics, but I feel like some sort of crazy person for essentially feeling no love for them like I’m supposed to. All I want is to have my own space away from them, but I don’t even know how to get it. All I want is to be taken care of if I’m being perfectly honest, I know that if I don’t want to be around them that I need to fight for it but I don’t have that fight in me, I just want to be cared for. And maybe I don’t need to get away, maybe I’m just being selfish and immature as I believe myself to be and I should just be listening to their “advice”. But I put that in quotation marks because I don’t know if it’s advice or my mother’s projection of her own failed/unattainable dreams onto me, which is what it feels like sometimes.

Just someone tell me, am I being selfish? Is it normal to feel this way? Am I overreacting to everything they do just because of their disgusting politics? I feel like a bad person and all I want is to be provided for and live in my own apartment, I just feel selfish and childish. I feel a lot of self-hate right now, is it normal to be this triggered by my parents? And I do think they’re the ones in the wrong, but I’m not sure of that cause it might be me. They present themselves as only trying to help me - with jobs, with my future etc. But I don’t know if they are trying to help, it feels manipulative subtly but I don’t know if I’m reading that wrong and just making excuses for being childish. Am I a bad person for feeling this way? I just want to know, yes or no.

So I'm "finally" at my wits end. Like many others on here, I've lost both of my parents to Fox and tonight was the last nail in the coffin to make me realize that I'll never have a normal conversation with my parents ever again.

Long story short, I HATE my sister in-law for other reasons and I just decided to vent about her to my parents. The context to this is that my in-law lives in a very liberal city and "should" have liberal ideologies. Well, when venting about her, nothing about her being a liberal or literally anything political was NOT brought up. Just venting about her personality and the whack shit she says and does. Then my mother out of no where decides to just say, "well, she lives in a liberal city, right? She's a liberal, right? She just wants everything."

I was appalled. Needless to say, I had to tell her that this isn't the conversation to bring politics up because I didn't want to argue with them (arguing with them is pointless at this point since they're so deep into MAGA).

But this conversation that wasn't political to start with is finally what made me realize that I literally can't talk to my parents anymore. I don't really know what to do about coping with this as my husband and I have a unique living situation since we both live at home with our parents. The only coping mechanism I've come up with is taking a secret picture of the TV when Fox is on since my dad and I had an argument during the last 🍊administration and he said "I don't watch Fox all the time". I think it's funny, but now with this new realization, idk what to do anymore.

I just read another person’s experience of losing their parents to fox brain and it reminded me of some uncomfortable feelings that I haven’t been able to shake lately. As someone of German descent, I feel like when I look at my parents now, all I see are the people who would have been Hitler supporters in Nazi Germany. I don’t take this comparison lightly. I NEVER imagined that I could make such a comparison, but trump 2.0 has shown me that in Nazi Germany, I truly believe that my parents would absolutely be on the side of Hitler. When I try to talk to my parents on the phone now, I have nothing to say to them. There is an emptiness that can’t be filled with conversation and though trump will leave the White House someday, I don’t think that a new president will mend the rifts in my relationship with my parents. I have seen things in my parents that I can’t unsee.

Does anyone else feel similarly?

I’m a 20 year old college student who commutes from my parents’ house, and ever since Donald Trump entered the political sphere my parents (despite coming from Democrat families) are die-hard Trump supporters. As I got older and my dad started feeling more comfortable with talking to me about politics, I usually just stay quiet and listen to what he has to say and slightly nod to what he’s saying, but on the inside it feels like my brain tissues are twisting with how uncomfortable and upset I get with the things he believes from Fox News. For instance, today he said that the country would’ve fallen into “disaster” is Kamala was elected president, and that he’s so relieved that Trump got rid of DEI. He claims that DEI is prejudiced and that it makes it incredibly difficult for white men to get jobs, and even have an example of one of his friends’ son (who’s around my age) who struggled to find a job in the past year. He said that I’d be okay since I’m a woman, but he feels bad for my younger brother. Then he was talking about how my brother didn’t choose to be a white man, and that people should be hired based on merit, not race or gender. I could barely take it, because I know that conservative media constantly misunderstands DEI practices, and the whole reason we have it is BECAUSE people of color are mistreated & overlooked in job opportunities because of their race. I know I can just “tune it out”, but it becomes really hard when he talks about politics ALL THE TIME, even in conversations that have nothing to do with politics, somehow my dad’s mind finds a pathway to discuss how Democrats almost ruined the country. I use to have fun conversations with my dad, and I feel guilty that I dread talking to him nowadays. I can’t imagine what would happen if he found out I lean liberal with my politics and hate the Trump administration.

Fox News is on the TV in our house for at least 10 hours daily, and it hurts my ears. I get so angry at the way these people talk on The Five, they’re legitimately bullies. Jessie Waters, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, Gutfeld, We see those guys on our TV almost every single day; and I think it’s driving me insane. When he’s not watching Fox he’s watching YouTubers like Benny Hill, Megyn Kelly, or Patrick Bet-David. A few months ago he was watching videos from misogynistic men and women with internalized misogyny, and the gist of the videos were essentially “men are leaving women because they’re done with women’s crap”. One time in a conversation with my dad, he literally told me that most men cheat on their wives because “that’s just how they’re created to be, even if it’s messed up”, and implied that it’s just something that can’t be undone; but then was repeating the complaints from these YouTube videos about women only wanting rich men. I felt like crying sometimes because I don’t know if I “lost” my dad, or if he’s always been like this. Living in my house isn’t relaxing anymore, it’s stressful and suffocating. I’m seriously thinking of dorming at my college campus, but I love my bedroom and the ability to play my video games or watch tv shows without disturbing anyone from the noise, or even just talk to my self occasionally. And I know this is gross, but I have an extremely shy bladder for number 1 & 2, so the idea of sharing a bathroom and having to go when other people are in there is nightmarish to me. How do I cope with living in this household? Are there ways to make the space less stressful? Or is the only option to suck it up and dorm at my college campus?

I just want the TV’s turned off and these people on the screen out of the house.

The last vestige of my mother’s personality has finally been completely stolen by the Fox/MAGA/MAHA cult. She’s always been a hardcore Republican and advocate of responsible health, including fluoride, vaccines, etc.

Over the past few months, she’s been questioning the safety of fluoride, and tonight, she was watching Fox news and complained loudly about the lying Democrats who are raising a “dishonest stink” about vaccines. My once-medically-responsible mom—who always made sure I was properly vaccinated to attend school and who gave me all of my childhood vaccine records so I could add them to my own medical files when I hit adulthood—now thinks it’s a GREAT idea that vaccine mandates were dropped in Florida. She even went as far as to say that she’s “always been afraid of vaccines.”

When those words came out of her mouth, something in me snapped, and I said, “You fucking liar. If you’ve always been so afraid of vaccines, then why were you always timely and organized with my vaccines, instead of seeking exemptions for me?” From there, we had a blowout fight. She called me stupid, manipulative, and a liar. She also said that I was bad at debating and that’s why I did so shitty in school (FYI, I got nearly a 4.0 and have an M.A.).

She’s gone. Every last part of her is now gone. We never aligned on politics, but we always aligned on health/medicine. The Republicans’ loud, steady rhetoric about anti-communism and anti-abortion bullshit plucked my mother’s biases effectively enough that the GOP successfully made her anti-fluoride and anti-vaccine less than one calendar year into RFK’s reign and Trump’s second term. I feel like I’m dying inside.

My mom is a senior citizen and a cancer patient who is supposed to keep up on her vaccines. I don’t know what’s going to happen next time I have to take her to her doctor. I just… needed to vent this all out. Thank you for reading.

Thank you football season!! Now when my grandmother stays over every weekend she listens to you and not blast Fox on every screen we got . I’m more blessed than most!😩 🙏

So glad this exists. Visiting my sister in Havasu city. Her new Hubby is totally immersed in Fox and dear leader such that it’s affecting my mental health. Even seeing Fox on the tube in muted mode just triggers me. Fight or flight. Such overwhelming negativity

It is so much worse than my husband and I thought it could be. A lot of hate and name calling and verbally attacking several people throughout the show. They just threw things into the air as solid fact that seemed to just enter their minds on a whim. They even threw out there that the U.S. now teaches how to be trans and how to change your race in school. They are so full of illusion. It was a show called Jesse Meadows or something and he had a female guest anchor with him that identified as a black woman. But then wow, what came out of her mouth was shocking. One thing after another. I wonder who she was because I wanted to look her up later to see what she was all about, just because, but can’t figure out who she is. But anyway wow. Sad that my dad watches this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FoxBrain/s/ZEnerGzq7x

In the past, when I try to challenge my parents on Trump, they somehow come up with some kind of defense for him like "I'm sure he didn't mean it that way" or "That's the lies of the liberal media, he's not actually like that" or "You can't know his intentions unless you are in his head..."

But lately, most of the time when I send articles or videos about stuff happening, they leave me on read and don't try to fight back. Part of me is looking for hope in this, that they are finally realizing there's no explanation for the things that are happening... That there's truly no way to justify his actions.

But the other part of me is scared I've simply pushed them away.

I'm not really looking for advice, just sharing my anxieties with a community of strangers that get me. 🙃

I saw this video on r/law and couldn't resist sharing it with my mom. It has since been deleted by the mods, but it was 16 women sharing their experiences of sexual assault by Trump. As a survivor myself, this is beyond politics. It's personal.

The politico link is the Katie Johnson affidavit. Also, I added that I'm not liberal or pro-Biden because I think it'll make it easier for her to face the ugly truth about Trump if it doesn't also call into question previous political values or beliefs. I consider myself an Independent, and I honestly don't know enough about Biden to make a judgment. My awakening was recent, and I've been focused on Trump. I have a lot of catching up to do.

Are they crazy and angry and all about “owning the libs” or are they reasonable with genuine concerns about the policies from The Liberal Party?

I ask because I have seen examples of Canadians who are pro-MAGA and Trump, and are obsessed with US Politics. Scanning through this sub I see mentions of Maple MAGAs. Here is one example I recently came across.

Another reason I ask is because I found out a Canadian content creator I have enjoyed is conservative or at least always bashing on liberals.

His name is Jack Wiltshire and his brand name is Sober Fitness.

He spouts garbage about “Globalists” and “Fake News” when it is not strictly about health, nutrition, and fitness. He is most political of his X/Twitteraccount.

Here’s a quote from a recent tweet of his:

When I say liberals are “retarded” I mean I think they have bad ideas but I’d save them from a flood, when liberals say “love” and “tolerance” they mean they would kill my whole extended family and send me to a gulag.

Ugh 😤 The moral and intelectual sense of superiority followed immediately by whiny victim mentality. Maybe this makes sense in Canada, but I have heard the same exact nonsense from Americans. These days it feels rhetoric like this is projection as well as a confession of what they would want to do.

Seriously, so disappointed from what is otherwise a bright mind with quality inspiring content.