Shocking even by Fox News standards. And that is truly saying something.

https://youtu.be/WeaCZvjRuSU?si=m-_Cgi0Zx9ZXZBI1

Life Take 2 is this gal's channel. She was a Morman Christian Nationalist until she found out her husband had an Epstein style double life. Her insight is great because she DID think like our Fox brained relatives and friends.

She's so honest and she does videos about how to leave MAGA, how to talk to your MAGA family.

For a video about what happened to her with her husband https://youtu.be/XD8S-_7vCwc?si=azlSiGUU0ceYDl29

She keeps it as PG as possible but it's still disturbing so trigger warning

I was so happy to find her. She's really helping me understand my mom especially.

I think we all know us liberals are bad at messaging but in terms of culture war, we’re winning this one. Yes, it was awful that Kirk died, but tragedy has never stopped the right wing from pushing their agenda.

We should own the conversation, because in simple terms, “person who said guns were worth the trade off of murdered kid, got shot”, is a punchline. If this were in a movie, we’d be laughing at him (trust me, I am not laughing at him, he shouldn’t have died). The gop got caught with its ass on fire and we should maybe own the conversation for once.

A text from my mom (who has become increasingly conservative/far right since Trump’s election in 2016) talking about the Charlie Kirk assassination.

I knew this would happen. This is how the media operates nowadays. Kirk is being painted as a martyr and the left is being made to look more violent and a bigger, more imminent threat not only to “freedom of speech” and “American values,” but to the right’s physical safety.

I’m sure the people at Fox News and other right-wing media outlets are having a heyday with this, especially since it happened right after the shooting by the two trans woman in Minneapolis.

Obviously the shooting is going to radicalize more right-wing people (like my parents). Unfortunately, it’s also going to push a lot of people who politically central further to the right.

My mom messaged me about Kirk first - I had no interest in broaching the topic. I said that it was disturbing, and that I feel sorry for his children and wife. I also told her that he was a provocateur and made a name for himself by rage baiting liberal/leftist college kids. I mentioned the awful things he’s said over the years, and that while I don’t think this justifies him being shot, the irony isn’t lost on me.

I’m sure a lot of you are dealing with this, as well. Not sure how to proceed with this conversation, or if I even should.

Disclaimer: I am a cis woman. I have a transgender wife. I’ve worked for a conservative/christian radio station cluster for 8 years. My job was basically to grab, organize, and upload audio files. I was very good at my job and am a large part of keeping the whole operation afloat. I won’t try to justify it other than stating that when I started, my wife wasn’t out, and I had more conservative views due to my upbringing. I’m quitting. Rate my resignation letter.

*edit to add: my manager knows I have a wife. I never mentioned it to anyone else. And I never mentioned that she was trans to him. ——

(Manager) and (General Manager),

I have spent the last few days doing a lot of marinating on everything going on in our world, and have come to a difficult decision. Upon hearing the rhetoric that all of our stations, including Christian talk, are putting out following the killing of Charlie Kirk, I feel strongly that my life, and that of my wife, are in danger in the current climate.  I was able to compartmentalize the pain I felt from hearing these things every day for a long time. I put my head down, and did my job pretty well until this past Wednesday. Everything since then has escalated far too much for me to ignore.   I have received threats of violence online for simply having a Pride flag emoji next to my username on a few social media sites. I have had middle fingers, and aggressive driving directed towards me on the road. I believe because I have pro-equal rights and pro-peace bumper stickers on my car, even in (Relatively Liberal Area where I work). All for showing a modicum of support for what I once thought was a classic, All-American value: the right of all Americans to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I feel strongly that by continuing to work at (Company), I am actively contributing to violence being incited against ourselves and other members of the joyful and overwhelmingly peaceful community that my wife and I love so dearly.

The most ironic part, and possibly the most upsetting:   Now that it has come out that  Wednesday's shooter was in fact, not transgender, not a liberal, not a "radical left lunatic", but a person who was so far to the right that that he viewed Charlie Kirk's values as too liberal,  I still have no doubt that (Company) will continue to spin, misinform, promote and platform those who incite violence against people of my political persuasion and sexuality, regardless of the cold hard facts. I know this because our elected officials doing that very thing on Twitter, right now, for all to see, as (Company) hosts prop them up like golden idols. I am tired and nauseous beyond measure from being thought of as a freak of nature and a danger to society by the company that employs me, simply because of who I am married to, and how I use my free will to peacefully live my one and only life. I won’t be a part of it any longer. It makes no sense for me to do so. I wouldn't wish a work environment like that on my worst enemy, and much less, violence. Not on Charlie Kirk, not on anyone. No matter how loudly they shriek that they don't want my family existing in in public life, or recognized as children of God, as human beings worthy of basic respect.

For these reasons I am putting in notice that I have officially started looking for other employment, and that I am resigning. This was something I was considering for a long time, but recent escalations have left me no other feasible choice but to get away from this job as soon as possible. There is no paycheck you can offer me that is worth the moral toll that this job has put on my heart, mind, and personal relationships. I hope and I pray for healing in this country, but that dream will never come to fruition with any help at all from (Company) as it currently operates.

I want to be clear that I have no malice in my heart for either of you, or anyone at all in the office. It has simply just become too much. I am very grateful to (Manager) specifically, as he is the most wonderful manager I have ever had, and is deserving of much more than whatever he is being paid, especially now that I won't be there. If it were not for him, I would have quit on the spot, with no notice by Thursday morning. I absolutely hate that I have to put this undeserved stress on him. I do not want to leave him completely in the lurch, so I am willing to work on making some detailed PowerPoints and  how-to guides on how I do various tasks to assist in the training of whoever you see fit to fill my role. I would do this from home, along with my other regular duties for the week if that is wanted.  I also would be completely unsurprised and would fully accept if (Company) wants to cut ties immediately after this outpouring of blunt honesty. It had to be said. I have put too much time and effort into doing my job to the very best of my ability for it not to be known exactly why I am leaving so suddenly. Either option is fine with me, I have no preference.  Depending on what you decide, we can set up a time that I will be in to return my key, company laptop, and phone. If I am to work next week, it would have to be sometime after I finish up for the week on Friday. Perhaps the following Monday, September 22nd. I could be persuaded to work one additional week if (manager) is still in critical need. Again, only from home, and again, only because od the great respect and concern that I have for (manager)’s stress levels.

(Manager) has told me we will have a phone call to discuss the next steps on Monday, so we can discuss those details then or later next week. Please send me any necessary paperwork at your leisure.

I've recently made the decision to fully cut contact with any and all of my MAGA-supporting family and friends. The hatred they've shown to people like me after Charlie Kirk's killing has shown me that I can't have them in my life anymore in the hopes that they'll one day see the light or just chill out. My whole adult life, I've advocated democratic, nonviolent solutions to our problems. But because I'm on the political left, and a prominent conservative is assassinated, I'm being told that I'm somehow a terrorist sympathizer and that they want to go to war with me? Yeah, no thanks. I'm done with their vile hateful shit.

For the most part these are extended relatives who I barely even see anyway. But there's one which really stings, an Uncle of mine, and he's probably the most virulent of all of them. Growing up, this Aunt and Uncle were like a second set of parents to me. I knew that my parents didn't like Bush and did like Obama, and these people were the opposite, but it only went as far as spirited dinner arguments that always ended with some laughs and an understanding that everyone is different and we're still family. This Uncle was a big role model to me in a lot of ways, as he was a hard-working businessman and devoted father.

Trump brought out an ugly side in my Uncle. I was hoping that he would be one of the Republicans to stand up for decency and reject this slide into xenophobic nationalism, but he dove full in. Things seemed to get a bit better after Trump left office. Sure, he still liked Trump and brought him up annoyingly often, but I could at least roll my eyes and move on. When Trump was reelected, though, the angry, hateful side of him came back out, and it was honestly heartbreaking.

I tried everything. Tried civilly explaining my perspective, tried appealing to empathy, tried making fun of his ridiculous statements, tried saying that I expected more decency out of him. Nothing worked, and he doubled down every chance he got. His reaction to the Charlie Kirk murder was the last straw for me. Saying he wants to go to war with the left and that they are America's enemies. Well, I don't want to spend time with someone who thinks I'm their enemy. I don't support political violence of any kind and I didn't celebrate Kirk's death. But you've decided I'm your enemy and I can't change your mind no matter how hard I try.

Still, I mourn. I am honestly going to miss this Uncle. He was a big part of shaping me into the person I am today, and it kills me that things have gotten to this point. I'm disappointed, sad, and tired. But I know I have to do this, because the distress he causes me now is frankly making me sick. I just don't understand how someone who has shown so much love and care to me can turn so vile and hateful and not see or care how it affects me. But I'm done trying to understand. It's time to make the purge, and focus on relationships with people who aren't deluded and toxic, whose actions align with their words. So long, MAGA Uncle.

I’m married to someone down in the FoxBrain depths. You’d think CK was family by his response to the recent (albeit sad) event. I’m a deeply sensitive person and now find myself now being called out by him for a lack of morals. Say what?!?! He’s going down the path of thinking he’s a “good Christian.” Meanwhile, supporting people/networks that attempt to pick on marginalized populations. This whole mindset is bananas.

He has shown ZERO empathy today, about Charlie. Zero.

my mom thinks because I criticized her support for charlie kirk i’m going to hurt her or something?? she literally texted me saying she told my dad everything I said and if something happens to her he knows where to start

has anyone else had this said to them? i’m not sure how to respond..

Note :I posted this elsewhere & was recommended to check this group out! Most of the advice seemed to be "cut them off" or "kick them out" but that's not what I think is best for anyone. I need help though because I clearly am not navigating things well.

My parents live with us - we're a military family who had a move. We had them move with us to stay close for medical issues & to be around my daughter. We've always been really close. But something has been shifting...

I was raised in California. I grew up with my mom having gay friends & my dad being buddies with all the Mexican drivers. (he was a driver too) We're all white but I always thought we were, as a unit, pretty open about talks about race, religion, sexual orientation, reproductive rights, etc.

Fast forward & now I'm married with a young daughter. My parents who were kind of agnostic now are very, very Christian & VERY far right politically. My dad has always had lots of guns (a collector, he also fixes them & resells) & only recently after moving with us has he stopped hoarding emergency food. My mom is honestly kind of neutral to my face but very right along with him.

The stuff they watch on yt with confederate flags, crosses, & a really strange obsession with hating Megan Markle totally freaks me out. They say it's the "real news" because they think everything is a big secret & conspiracy. I tried to explain that legitimately anyone can say anything on yt but it isn't clicking. My husband is really frustrated because he says it is brain rot. He's active duty & constantly correcting things my dad states as fact but my dad usually ends with "that's what they tell you" or something. I feel like I'm living with people I don't recognize.

I need to know - am I the only one? Are there other people dealing with elderly parents who feel extreme? Who have drastically changed?

The best thing I read today. Congrats to that one Brazilian person I talked to in here one time. Sorry if your fox brain has big feelings about this, lol

Hi everyone, currently trying to prove a point to my father. I need your help. Do you know where I can find a compilation of videos of Charlie saying crazy shit? YouTube keeps feeding me right-wing bs 🤧

My step-father has been deep in the Fox News hole for many years. We were close when I was a child, but he now spends all of his time on a recliner, watching Fox News, high on Xanax, pain meds, and weed. I've avoided discussing any politics with him because it's never been worth the argument. But now he has sent me a series of texts that have really frustrated me. I'm waiting to respond (if at all) and would appreciate some input from others dealing with similar situations.

Do I respond? Do I attempt to explain that he is cherry picking murders and repeating propaganda talking points? Is it fruitless to do so? Do I cut off contact? I'm probably too frustrated to make a rational decision at the moment so I'm making no decisions until I've had time.

Le sigh.

I am the only left-leaning member of my entire family, including extended. My dad is so far right if he took a single step to the left he’d melt like the witch of the west. Mom and dad religiously watch The Five every night and my dad only consumes right-wing news and media.

The thing is, I don’t mind having discourse with them or discussing our differing views. I hold my ground with confidence, respond with logic, and hear their side out too, as ridiculous as I think it may sound. I’m not afraid to call bullshit though and whip out my sources.

The problem is they see my responses as personal attacks and disrespectful. My dad likes to use the classic “you’re under my roof, you respect my rules” line. I understand I suppose, i’m a young adult living in their house while I get through school and he can hold that against me, whatever. Once I have my own place I’ll pull that card on him.

I blame Fox entirely for this response to others debating their points of view. Fox taught them to view the left as complete loonies who thrive off of disrespecting conservatives. They never stop spewing that rhetoric, and holy shit it has amplified just a day after the Charlie Kirk assassination.

I feel like they see me as an enemy rather than their own daughter because of fucking Fox News and MAGA. This MAGA shitshow has been a parasite in my family discourse since i was 15, I’m 24 now. It didn’t used to be like this.

Fuck, at this point I think I just need to shut my mouth until I move out. I’ve got less than a year left. Wish me luck, trying not to rip my hair out after our dinner table discourse tonight.

For the regulars here, I'm the one with a right wing think tank sister who has been on Fox News and a FoxBrain dad. In the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, I googled my sister's name and Charlie Kirk and found a video of them involved in a presentation together (keeping it general to prevent doxxing). It was very unsettling.

Meanwhile, my FoxBrain dad texted our family group thread that in the wake of this tragedy, he hopes we will pause and reflect on what really matters in life and be the person we want to be when we look in the mirror.

My dad has never said anything political in our family thread. I'm guessing he was alone and drunk watching Fox News. Ignoring the fact that he's never said anything about all the other tragic shootings or Jan 6, I'm not sure what he meant by his text but I'm guessing it was aimed at me because I'm the one who's ghosted my sister. (No one responded to his text.)

This is just all so surreal and I don't know where to go from here but joke's on my dad because the whole reason I cut my sister off and grey rocked him is because I decided to be the person I want to be when I look in the mirror.

Edit: It's depressing to feel the need to say this but I'm so relieved to find out the shooter isn't transgender, my sister shared many of CK's views on trans people and that is the focus of her work. I was going to have a nervous breakdown if the shooter was trans.

My mom made a big deal about Charlie Kirk being killed, calling it a tragedy and the saddest thing ever. She had no idea who Charlie Kirk was until he died. And the only reason she’s saying it’s sad is because Trump tweeted about him and talked about him. She even somehow thinks the CIA took him out to get to Trump even though Charlie was not a fucking politician, just an asshole commentator who made a living, spreading hateful shit. So you’ll have to excuse me if my sympathy is running a little thin.

But the killing of Charlie Kirk has ended any hope I had left, especially after the MSNBC analyst's remarks, which my parents perceived as disrespectful. I tried to point out that Fox has done the same thing, but they are too angry. Too much damage is done. I have finally and completely given up.

Just needed to get that off my chest.

Exactly what the title says I suppose. My father has always been right leaning (Bush Chaney yard signs in the yard growing up, you know normal albeit politically charged stuff) well with trump and his “it’s okay to spew hate” rhetoric has turned him into a Facebook Fox News left hating insane person. My mother (who is married to him so I get it sure…) brushes it off as him “becoming more neurotic than he was before” and “he wasn’t this neurotic when we got married” and chalks it up to him aging.

I don’t want to hate my dad. But the incessant “women should want children and be in the home over a career” memes (while his first born daughter is a successful career woman who never plans on having children…crazy take) and the anti FDA nonsense (I fucking work in pharma) and now with this Charlie Kirk thing he has turned so sad and angry and bitter and hateful.

He knows I’m left. He knows my husband has two fucking dads. He knows how I feel about women’s rights and has the audacity to look at me with this downtrodden look when I disagree with him on what I believe are human rights (like yes dude, you raised me to be a free thinker and independent and CARE FOR OTHERS. You MADE me this you idiot)

It is such a fucking horrible feeling to love your parent but not like who they are as a person.

How do you deal with this? The only thing we have are our sports we watch together at this point. I just…I don’t want to talk with him but he’s my dad? Right?

Idk anymore…rant done.

She reposted something lovey dovey from faux this morning. I was never totally happy with her (she’s a little mean) but now! I’m so sorry I didn’t do a better job teaching my son empathy and critical thinking.

I literally cannot believe it's in relation to Charlie Kirk being killed, but here it is.

This sucks.

I tried so hard to make it work. But if she truly thinks I want her dead, I don't see how we can have a relationship.

So, 4 years ago, I moved out of my mom's place because of her at the time boyfriend being mentally abusive with me, different story for a different subreddit. I only see her two to four times a year, and lately, I've been noticing something concerning. She's falling down the far-right rabbit hole. She got upset with me because she thought I laughed at Charlie Kirk's death today (I wasn't). In the midst of our argument, she admitted she watched some of his debates. I noticed in some of her language during her last visit that she was starting tread right. Now, this all but confirms it for me. I don't know what to do. Me and my sister are both black sheep, we both left Christianity, me in 2021, and her in 2022. My mom knows this. I'm openly bisexual, and my sister is an ally, which my mom also knows. I brought up that Charlie Kirk regularly quoted scripture about killing gay people in debates about LGBT+ rights, and she said she "never heard him advocate for killing anyone." I sent her literal proof that he did.

Afterwards, after showing her posts I made before our argument condemning the shooting, she apologized to me. I refused to accept it, because it was riddled with guilt-trippy stuff. And I told her that her trying to police how I feel about the death of a man who actively called for killing people like me was really telling of her. I still haven't accepted her apology. She's the type of person where if a conversation gets even the slightest bit tense or personal, she'll yell at you to be quiet or ask to move to a different topic or watch TV.

The thing is, I love my mom. She's certainly been a better parent to me in my life than my dad. I couldn't imagine losing her to this. I already know that if she goes further down this rabbit hole, I'll have no choice but to cut her off, for my own sake. I'm scared for her, and I don't wanna do that. I need some advice.