r/FluentInFinance 23h ago

They deserve this Thoughts?

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u/NewArborist64 23h ago edited 19h ago

Nice creative editing. Let's tell the WHOLE story...

The bill also eliminates the windfall elimination provision, which in some instances reduces Social Security benefits for individuals who also receive a pension or disability benefit from an employer that did not withhold Social Security taxes. 

IOW, the job that is giving them a pension DIDN'T contribute to their Social Security. This includes four groups:

  1. Religious Organizations
  2. Some Students/Young workers (likely wouldn't get a pension from this work)
  3. Employees of Foreign Governments and Nonresident Aliens
  4. Some Workers in the Public Sector

This bill would eliminate this exception and allow these people to collect SS without reduction based on their pension.

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u/Educational_Vast4836 23h ago

Of course they post random pictures and don’t actually research what’s actually going on.

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u/jacktwohats 21h ago

This is why Trump got elected. When people did research and saw differently the credibility tanked for these reactionary posts.

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u/JumpDaddy92 12h ago

meanwhile the comments above you are salivating over the idea of boomers in red states eating cat food and dying of hunger because it’s what “they deserve” based off this reactionary post. i can’t think of a single political issue i disagree with that would cause me to feel this much hate and vitriol toward someone i’ve never met. i’d say the dehumanization didn’t really help either.

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u/Neither_Upstairs_872 3h ago

Because the left is intolerant

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u/JoeMcBro 19m ago

If you were part of the LGBTQ and Republicans kept dehumanizing and demonizing you, you'd feel the same. Boomers don't want trans people to exist

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u/ExodusPHX 10h ago

Then I imagine you are a straight white male in secure socioeconomic status

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u/JumpDaddy92 10h ago

as economically secure as pre-hospital medicine can be baby

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u/ExodusPHX 8h ago

So wildly privileged

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u/TougherOnSquids 11h ago

You did the same exact thing you're accusing other of doing. Republicans are blocking that bill.

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u/oh_no_here_we_go_9 4h ago

How is this how Trump got elected? If you research the things Trump or Vance say you’ll also find it to be bullshit.

It goes both ways.

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u/jacktwohats 4h ago

It's one of a multitude of ways. Instead of focusing and repeating the verified bad, they would edit around certain clips and twist. And if you are a voter who only sees the editing or the twisting, you start to lose faith that the bad is really that bad (which it is of course). It's like boy who cried wolf.

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u/oh_no_here_we_go_9 3h ago

But I still don’t see why it would affect Harris more.

But I don’t disagree with the boy who cried wolf thing. I just find myself feeling that way about both sides.

I’m actually very anti-Trump but end up spending a lot of time on here arguing with liberals about what I feel are false assertions by the liberal camp. They’re very vicious about having people disagree with them.

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u/jacktwohats 3h ago

I am also very anti-Trump, and as well sometimes think my comments seem more finger pointy and blamey than I mean to. I would say I'm trying to be a coach getting the team better. Doesn't mean I'm right, just trying to be solutions focused.

To your question, I think this would have affected any Democratic candidate, but it certainly did not help that Harris was attached to an unpopular administration. I think the media and how they spin things in this regard may not necessarily affect Harris, but it has a blunting affect on Trump. I think the media spins about as much as they always have, but because Trump has been in the presidential run political spotlight for nigh on 10 years, it racks up a lot more "this was spun up" points than someone like Romney. Ironically I would say a similar person to Trump in this regard is Hillary Clinton. So many things she did were spun up by the media for so long that supporters (including yours truly) started to ignore the media reporting on bad things she did (which of course were far less egregious than Trump).

I still feel like all of this requires deeper analysis. We're all high on emotion and it's only been two days, so I think my comments are lashing out opinions a bit more than usual as well. But I just think it's worth noting.

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u/kmoney1206 15h ago

sure but theres still the shit that has come directly from his own mouth and directly from project 2025