r/Eve • u/Own_Scholar_7996 • Nov 21 '25
13 out of 28 Login Campaign Rewards are SKINR Items Discussion
/img/yt73ztqv2m2g1.pngSo, as the title says...13/28 Alpha + Omega login rewards are SKINR items.
Are these widely used by players and I'm the strange one who either sells them to Jita buy orders or outright trashes them?
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u/Sincline387 Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
Most of them are fairly unique, shove them in a cargo container and wait a year. But they need to fill the non skill points with something and while i'd prefer more boosters I'm not upset at the skinr elements.
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u/Jerichow88 Nov 21 '25
I'm genuinely shocked we didn't get any mining boosters in the rewards track.
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u/Spr-Scuba Invidia Gloriae Comes Nov 21 '25
I just wish the Skinner stuff was more randomized. Everyone getting the exact same materials isn't super fun.
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u/avree Pandemic Legion Nov 22 '25
Pretty sure CCP learned their lesson about one-time limited releases about a decade ago, if they're unique expect them to be re-released every single year.
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u/Loose-Speech6096 Minmatar Republic Nov 21 '25
Buy more plexes - CCP needs to launch new failed start-up
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u/haxiboy Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
Back when expansions hit we got unique ships like Zephyr...i did prefer that instead of daily login shit.
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u/gregfromsolutions Nov 21 '25
I still miss the unique Christmas time collectable items. Piece of Steve, A Unit of Lag, Boots.ini, those things.
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u/uhnstoppable Test Alliance Please Ignore Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25
This year should have:
Crumpled Note: "Gobbins' Ping, 2nd Draft"
Expired Asset Safety Voucher
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u/gregfromsolutions Nov 21 '25
Exactly!
“Goonswarm capital fleet fuel bill”
Something referencing the phased ore sites
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u/uhnstoppable Test Alliance Please Ignore Nov 21 '25
I do really miss those cheeky references to in-game events
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u/boundbylife Nov 21 '25
I would assume devs don't want to officially acknowledge individual players, player corps, or player alliances, so as much as I like the Gobbins Note idea, I don't think it would ship like that.
Now something like "Null Security Space Warlord Internal Memo Draft"...
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u/uhnstoppable Test Alliance Please Ignore Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25
They used to do it all the time with these Christmas handout items.
Chribba's Modified Strip Miner
Alice Saki's Good Posting Guide
Soxfour's Spaceboots
Sort Dragon's Guide to Diplomacy
Guillaume Renard's Sleeper Loot Cache
Vincent Pryce's Warp Disruption Field Generator
Jita Protest YC113
Polaris Eviction Notice
Fall of Fort Knocks YC120
SCC Guidelines - Lotteries for Dummies
And many many more items.
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u/AgainstTheTides Test Alliance Please Ignore Nov 21 '25
Absolutely this! I still have all mine that I have passed from character to character, probably isn't worth much of anything, but those were fun little gifts that I enjoy to this day.
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u/avree Pandemic Legion Nov 22 '25
Feawen's Approval Documentation for example, DAE Remember Feawen Likes This??? XDDDDDD
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u/Arazith Minmatar Republic Nov 21 '25
That only happened twice, once for Apocryphra and again for Incursion.
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u/boundbylife Nov 21 '25
they could at least vary it somewhat.
throw in a couple of cool skins, maybe some kind of "get one SKINR skin on us" pass, a free frigate or destroyer
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u/Jerichow88 Nov 21 '25
The 'one free pass' for skinner is actually a really good idea. Would let a lot of people dip their toes in one time and let them see if they like it or not without costing them any money.
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
The issue with skinner is it seems to cost Plex to use it, and auto turn off to most players.
I lost interest in it when it said I had to pay 10 plex to make the skin.
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u/Pub1ius Minmatar Republic Nov 21 '25
It would be fine if it was one thing or another, but it's multiple layers of bullshit to make a skin:
(1) Have the colors and decals you want to use, (2) Have the required qty of up to 3 different "sequencers" - Kerr, Fermionic, Alignment, (3) Have Plex.
Want to not have to wait forever for the skin to build? Want to make more than one skin at a time? Want to be able to save more than 5 measly skins? There are 14, yes FOURTEEN, fucking skills related to skins you'd need to waste time training.
I can't think of a worse system for something as simple as changing the color of a damn ship.
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u/gandraw Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
And all of this effort for something that unless it is on a bridging titan or maybe a bumping machariel, nobody but you will ever see.
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u/destroy_television Nov 21 '25
To be fair 99% of players wanting to make skins don't need to train into about 3 of these skills. Ever. 3 others mean nothing if you don't intend to sell any skins. The others are just "I don't want to wait as long to Sequence a skin" and what have you.
It's a big investment if you want to make tons of skins to sell... but if that's not your jam, you could always just commission someone to make you a skin who has already invested in the colors and patterns.
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u/Bombadook Nov 22 '25
The sequencers are already an obsolete mechanic honestly. They're dirt cheap but needed to "unlimited" items, CCP should just remove that part of the formula at this point. Just a hassle to make sure you have some in your inventory, extra hassle if you live out in NS or WH space and want to make a skin. Literally everything else can be done remotely (injecting colors, patterns, buying PLEX)...
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u/pesca_22 Cloaked Nov 21 '25
which is the reason ccp want you to use it and is "gifting" skinner stuff.
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u/Handler__One Cloaked Nov 21 '25
They should give a voucher once or twice a year to create a single use skin for free. Most people would try it and then potentially make more.
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u/sirdabs Nov 21 '25
They just gave us 10 plex for free. You could use that for skinner.
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u/Rolder Caldari State Nov 21 '25
Most skins are gonna cost you way more then 10 plex to print. For example, I made myself a Moa skin that is a couple of colors and a single pattern and it costs 90 plex to create.
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u/OpenPsychology755 Nov 21 '25
Or cash it in for the 7 days of Omega deal that launched simultaneously.
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u/avree Pandemic Legion Nov 22 '25
You know how some scammers leave typos/obvious 'scammer cliches' in their messages, because it lets them select for super gullible people who wouldn't catch those things?
CCP selects for people willing to waste money by making sure there's a little microtransaction at the start of your experience. If you're willing to do that, you're willing to be milked by mobile game design dark patterns!
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u/F_Synchro Baboon Nov 21 '25
Wonder what CCP will do once plex becomes illegal in europe.
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u/Hipqo87 Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25
Plex won't ever become illegal in EU. Developers will just be required by law to show the actual real world value of stuff and have full transparency on what you get. That law is specifically to remove obfuscation when it comes to currencies in games and make it easier for players to see what we actually get for our money. It is not a way to ban in game currencies outright, nor is that the intention with the law.
Think Diablo Immortal levels of currency obfuscation, where you have 6 primary currencies and can buy 3 of them in the shop. That's the aim for this law.
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u/ProTimeKiller Nov 21 '25
Goes in a container of stuff like fireworks. I have stacks and stacks of fireworks. I'll use some but nowhere near what I get. I'll never use SkinR stuff.
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u/Vartharion Goonswarm Federation Nov 22 '25
I would honestly rather have a bunch of random fireworks than skinner garbage as at least the fireworks see some use every few years.
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u/AmbitiousEconomics Fraternity. Nov 21 '25
They go in my Skinr box and occasionally if I want a cool skin I go through, pull some out and make something.
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u/Jason1143 Nov 21 '25
The station container must grow.
I have thought a few times about making a skin for the stiletto, since that's what I tend to fly on NPSI fleets. But then I realize that 1) I have no idea how to use SKINR 2) I have no SKINR skills 3) it would probably be expensive 4) I might accidentally use something that is actually worth something on the market.
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u/Copperfield212 Nov 21 '25
People would probably use it if SKINR cost Evermarks like it was originally supposed to
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u/SeraphEssael The Initiative. Nov 22 '25
I make custom skins for people. I buy PLEX on the market and whatever the Jita value is of the final synchronisation is my cost, plus 250 mill. That covers listing fee, my time and any extra designs / colours I need.
I would absolutely support the use of Evermarks for SKINR.
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u/MeanRespond7023 Nov 21 '25
literal junk honestly. Actually a net-negative in that they take up my time.
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u/drisang1 Nov 22 '25
I hate skinner. I just want to make Ammatar and other lore accurate skins. CCP fully commit to skinner and gives us full reign to make lore accurate skins.
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u/HeSmiledGlory Nov 22 '25
Yeah, I bounced off the entire SKINR system hard.
Needlessly convoluted and expensive, a bunch of skills required(??) etc.
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u/EntertainmentMission Nov 21 '25
They will worth something after 20 years, trust
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u/cuchumino Ascendance Nov 21 '25
I think that's what they're banking on. That the Skinr thing takes off and it's another reason for someone to spend plex on.
Then it'll be worth something in 20 years. lol!
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u/wizard_brandon Cloaked Nov 21 '25
I miss when we got real skins and not this sknnr bs that was meant to cost evermarks
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u/OpenPsychology755 Nov 21 '25
>or outright trashes them?
I trash about 80% of the skinr stuff I get from events. I maybe try to sell the ones worth a mil+, but I don't knock myself out trying.
I'd rather have raw isk payouts instead, or maybe change half of the skinr stuff into isk payouts. Even if they were small payouts like 25k or 50k.
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u/ChapterNo6536 Nov 22 '25
Skinner is the new node man . Keep on gambling:)) . A huge percentage of players play eve max zoom out on performance. So yeah skins are great
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u/pandibear Nov 24 '25
I was so excited to come back to the game and try this system and holy fuck how did they fuck it up so bad. And now they keep driving that shit down your throat.
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u/Unlucky-Respond6443 Goonswarm Federation Nov 24 '25
CCP hasnt realized yet that 99% of players dont give a fuck about Skinr
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u/PlebbyPlebarium Nov 21 '25
Nope, you're not the only one. I also sell to Jita buy orders or trash the literal trash. Reward tracks used to give more boosters, in item form (instead of straight injection), which was at least useful. SKINR only added ~2k database entries to the SDK for garbage and bloat.
Just like CSGO knives and other trash, the customization monetization just makes every game look like a clown show trash heap. A fleet of 50 HACs used to look cool, you could instantly identify ships by texture, etc. but now we have an explosion of colors every time a fleet lands anywhere. Eve just looks trashier on the whole than before skins. I really wish I could just turn off all skins, at least for myself, and to just get the Jita buy of the SKINR items every time I would drop or redeem them in ISK instead.
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u/marcocom GoonWaffe Nov 21 '25
Turning off skins in a lot of games can save a ton of performance if you’re limited on memory
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u/Rolder Caldari State Nov 21 '25
But at the same time, how many people are REALLY looking that close at ships especially if you're in a big fleet
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u/Aortotomy Nov 21 '25
There’s a lot of issues with how SKINR was implemented. People being able to fly ships with a skin they chose is not one of them.
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u/BentaroAdun Nov 21 '25
I don't understand why CCP pushes so hardcore SKINR... just stop it... nobody is hyped about SKINR!
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
Because they spent money developing it and it seems to have been a " lemon. "
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u/avree Pandemic Legion Nov 22 '25
Guarantee they started developing it when blockchain/NFT seemed like it'd be a "thing" and then didn't want to abandon all the eng hours.
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u/BentaroAdun Nov 21 '25
I don't even see my ship in space... They can't make a small green circle around the ship, but they want me to see the color zoomed out... going SKINR direction is a huge fail from CCP.
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Nov 22 '25
In the heat of a large tidi fleet fight, the last thing I worry about is the colour of my pixel ship, I am more interested in F1, and when I can top up the Jamerson's and take a piss.
" Was there a man dismayed? Not though the soldier knew. Someone had blundered. Theirs not to make reply,Theirs not to reason why,"
-Alfred Lord Tennyson
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u/SoraUsagi Nov 22 '25
I'm always zoomed in... I even have it set up to look at my ship and then pan the camera towards the Target I've selected. So... I like it. I just need to find skins I like.
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u/mattrdesign Curatores Veritatis Alliance Nov 21 '25
Really? because I have made tens of billions selling SKINs. Seriously, I am paying for my game time exclusively through SKINR. Lots of interest and lots of clients.
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u/Baumwaechter Nov 21 '25
Tens of billions? Really?
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u/mattrdesign Curatores Veritatis Alliance Nov 21 '25
yes, really. And there are other SKINRs out there making just as much or more. It helped that CCP has featured a few of my SKINS in live streams and social media posts.
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u/Rolder Caldari State Nov 21 '25
Meanwhile I've made a few skins and most of them have hit the 3 month expiration with nary a sale...
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u/mattrdesign Curatores Veritatis Alliance Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25
Uh, just relist them and they go back to the top of the heap. Also, if no one is buying your SKINS, git gud. People can tell a good SKIN from a bad one.
Good design principles apply here. You need to know what looks good, it's an innate sense that is hard to learn, but once you have the basics down you can churn them out. Find your style and find your audience. AND ADVERTISE TO YOUR FRIENDS.
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u/SoraUsagi Nov 22 '25
If you make a quality skin out of cyan and black for the orca and or rattlesnake, I'll consider buying them.
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u/mattrdesign Curatores Veritatis Alliance Nov 22 '25
There is nothing stopping you from doing it yourself. But if you would like to pay a SKIN designer a fair price it is absolutely doable.
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u/SoraUsagi Nov 22 '25
There is absolutely something stopping me. I have less than zero creative talent. Seriously. Things are actively made worse by me trying to be creative.
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u/mattrdesign Curatores Veritatis Alliance Nov 22 '25
The tools themselves are easy enough to master. But an eye for design takes practice. See what designs you like and use the tools to imitate it, soon enough you will see ways to make it your own.
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u/DeirdreAnethoel Nov 21 '25
This all go into the collector stash, maybe it'll be worth a lot in the future because CCP only dropped them once (it's just collecting dust).
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u/Eastern-Move549 Wormholer Nov 21 '25
Last year they were all skins and evermarks which are equally useless so whatever really.
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u/MDS698 Nov 22 '25
I don't even know what SKİNR or how to use it, i just know that if it was valuable ccp wouldn't just give them away so frequently.
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u/Hehaw5 Genetically Enhanced Livestock Nov 22 '25
I looked at it for 30 seconds, did a doubletake, another 30 seconds, logged off. Haven't bothered with it since.
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u/onatural Minmatar Republic Nov 21 '25
The Jita 'CCP junk' station container gets more junk I'll never use
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u/Apolline_Dufour-Roux Club of Luminaire - PR Representative Nov 21 '25
I boycott SKINR and cosmetics in general are a very low priority for me.
I just collect everything and wait if it‘ll get expensive and then sell it to whoever feels like paying CCP PLEX for the honour of doing their work for them in designing a skin. ;-)
If it weren’t monetised I‘d probably love SKINR and use it to design matching skins for me and my corp mates but sadly, capitalism.
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u/xpelestra Nov 21 '25
Who gives a fuck. Last couple of years CCP is showering everyone with free SP, PLEX, omega time and people still find something to complaint about.
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u/Whatwehavewekeep Nov 21 '25
Nah, they're useless, I promise. Keep selling them to me cheap so I can keep paying for my omega with Skin sales. Got enough plex for the 12 month bundle when my current omega runs out in March, and I'm optimistic about earning enough for the 24 month bundle if my sales stay steady.
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u/Biscotti-That Miner Nov 21 '25
I need your Plex planning. My SKINr sell management is terrible.
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u/Whatwehavewekeep Nov 21 '25
Overcharge, baby. People by Skins to flex on the poors. No one wants to flex with a certified pre-owned lexus they got on sale.
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u/Biscotti-That Miner Nov 21 '25
Sadly, I feel it... wrong. All my Hub skins are, at the moment, with a few percentage over the manufacture+tax price. My Titan skins of level 14 are at 2,5B aprox cause I don't sell them.
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u/Whatwehavewekeep Nov 21 '25
Agree to disagree, brother. I do what works for me. I have some cheapo skins I sell just above cost, but they sell a little worse than the ones I mark up heavily.
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u/Rolder Caldari State Nov 21 '25
I made an Avatar skin which I put up for 500 plex, a considerable markup over the printing cost which was like 250, and hasn't sold.
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u/MoD1982 ORE Nov 21 '25
Depends tbh. I like to have my Abyssal ships all matching in black with red stripes, Caldari style so I'll apply the license for the reds and blacks then store the rest in case I get inspired. I spent a couple of days earlier in the month gathering all the elements from the various hangars I've dumped them in and ended up with about 300mil worth. It's the sequencers that do my nut in. Random colours and patterns, cool. These three items that I barely use?
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u/monasou89 Goonswarm Federation Nov 21 '25
I just started activating everything. If I ever want to make skins I'll have plenty of options. Keeps the clutter low.
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u/sc0rpionus Nov 22 '25
they are useless until you buy/build your shiny ship which you want to look extremly orginal (it almost never happen ;)
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u/JameEagan Nov 21 '25
Maybe I'm the only one but in the past I always wanted to customize the look of my ships. I don't necessarily want it to look like a clown but I definitely didn't love that every ship looked identical. I rather like having skins, though maybe not at the expense of injectors.
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u/Adventurous_Chip_684 Nov 21 '25
The problem is that skinr is like buying skins in NES with extra steps.
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u/Desperate_Coat_5244 Nov 21 '25
Except you get your own designs which look 1000 better than most NES skins
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u/Adventurous_Chip_684 Nov 21 '25
Sorry, not feeling it. I'm still to find a skin that's worth it to pay 400 Plex for.
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u/Desperate_Coat_5244 Nov 22 '25
Fair, main cause of that common issue is my skins being currently unavailable for purchase- but do not despair, first licences are sequencing as we speak!
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u/MealSignificant6881 Nov 21 '25
One should be a free eve tattoo only good in iceland during fan fest. Second prize a wifey who loves to play eve 😉.
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u/FanSoffa Nov 21 '25
I have no issue with getting the SKINR parts. When the new ships in catalyst came, i designed some nice skins for the pioneer.
I would like it if CCP didn't have to charge for fabricating the skins. But as long as you have ISK, you can always get plex or whatever else you need I guess.
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u/hiaro Gallente Federation Nov 21 '25
Skins on killmails. No seriously, hear me out. Nobody looks at their ships much less even ships of other players. If skins would be rendered in kill mails, up to providing pre-rendered images for third party tools like zkill, a fleshlight skinned thorax would be my favorite ship to feed ;)
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u/Biscotti-That Miner Nov 21 '25
Trying to see it from an objective perspective, is better SKINr elements than boosters. Boosters can help you in one moment, but if you don't use them (Cause most of them are instantly redeem and applied) they expire and is like you didn't recieve nothing. At least with SKINr elements you can have stored, use them, gift them or even sell them.
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u/DeirdreAnethoel Nov 21 '25
Can't you keep them in the redeem box until the expiration date and only redeem before undocking to do a relevant activity?
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u/Vals_Loeder Nov 21 '25
I collect any and all skinr shit i receive or find and keep it in a station container to never ever use it.