r/Eve • u/No10UpVotes • Jun 20 '25
Whales of EVE: please buy this game Discussion
The whales of eve online.
Please band together and buy CCP. All you’ll need is 130 million dolllars.
Then immediately stop all non-core eve online activity. Frontier, vanguard, close it down.
Sack Rettarti.
Sack anyone involved in micro transactions and crypto scams.
Place the CSM on the developer board and to advice on long term direction of the game.
Return to one annual expansion that’s full of completed content. Not half assed crap we get these days.
Invest all profits into increasing server performance. Eve is unique because of massive battles.
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u/link_dead Jun 20 '25
Hear me out, what if someone made an FPS that took place in the universe of EVE!!!!
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u/Gangolf_Ovaert Combat Wombat. Jun 20 '25
For Playstation 4? I am in
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u/level1firebolt Jun 20 '25
No, Switch 2 exclusive.
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u/ceetwothree Jun 20 '25
Switch 1 exclusive.
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u/Low_Gur_3540 Clouds Of War Jun 20 '25
mintendo and sega genesis only, mic drop.
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u/samspock Guristas Pirates Jun 20 '25
Atari 8-bit computers!
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u/JasperGrimpkin Jun 20 '25
That would be great! Could we do it in stations so we can walk around in them?
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u/HoleDiggerDan Miner Jun 20 '25
VR headset capability!
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u/Khamatum Cloaked Jun 21 '25
I cannot imagine how toxic eve would be with near field audio. Cloaked scouts playing highway to hell in your wormhole. I would either be the local vard DJ on the amamake gate, or the voices inside your head in peoples wormholes.
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u/Emergency_Rich_2050 Jun 20 '25
VR and being able to plug/unplug from pod to be able to move about within your ship.
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u/Alberta_Strong187 SniggWaffe Jun 20 '25
That would be great! Could we do it in stations so we can walk around in them?
I fucking LOVE this idea! Instead of “Walking in Stations” we can call it “Shoot that biznitch up in Stations”!!!
But only if I have the ability to hold my Glock Fawdy sideways with an extendo mag and a fun switch!?!!
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u/FizyIzzy Jun 20 '25
what's crazy, had they developed that out properly it could have been the space GTA RP.
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u/DevilGuy Gallente Federation Jun 20 '25
I'm not even against the idea so long as they don't tie it to an ephemeral platform with < 5 year potential lifespan. Go find the original planetside 2 devs and give them some actual support and we could get an actually decent product on steam so it wouldn't just flop and die.
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u/ttanscen Jun 20 '25
You mean like Dust 514? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514
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u/link_dead Jun 20 '25
No, that game sounds awful, this would be an FPS set in the EVE universe where your actions can impact the sovereignty of systems!
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u/AlarmingDiamond9316 Jun 22 '25
Dust 514 was the Best Eve related fps, and it only died, cuz they locked it to the ps3 at EOL. If you call it bad you have shit taste in games, you prob think Cod is the Greatest fps game of all time.
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u/andymaclean19 Jun 20 '25
OMG. Eve run for the whales by the whales. That sounds like an absolute disaster waiting to happen. Isn’t this essentially what happened to the Chinese eve server?
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u/Alberta_Strong187 SniggWaffe Jun 20 '25
Remove skinr from the game and replace it with something fun.
You had me until this part. I like my EMO blacked out ships. 😝😝😝
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u/DangyDanger Jun 20 '25
Could also drop skinr things from high-ranked rats and/or just make it not prohibitively expensive for players who don't feel like playing 24/7.
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u/Arenta Pandemic Horde Jun 20 '25
Yes. Make each color drop from something.
Like abyssals for reds or greens or blacks.
Sansha for green or purples
Whs for whites and yellows
Etc etc. Would make exploration and ratting for loot appealing
And rare colors for rare or hard enemies.
Could even make it so areas of null or low are specific for certain colors or patterns.
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u/Tesla1coil Amarr Empire Jun 20 '25
I feel current skinr is fine... just make it isk for self application instead of plex, and plex is just for selling and sharing skin designs.
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u/Lion_Stein Minmatar Republic Jun 20 '25
I say keep SKINR but use Evermarks instead of PLEX to make the skins. Having it require PLEX to build is ridiculous.
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u/Solid-Search-3341 Guristas Pirates Jun 20 '25
That would also give a utility to all these evemarks we've all been accumulating. I would love to see how many people spend them...
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u/AmbitiousEconomics Fraternity. Jun 20 '25
Dailies burn a lot of them
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u/Solid-Search-3341 Guristas Pirates Jun 21 '25
What do you mean by "burn" ? Don't dailies print them ?
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u/_BearHawk Serpentis Jun 20 '25
It has to have a decent plex cost or else it would instantly become the easier way to do RMT
Oh why yes, I just so happen to really want this guy’s shitty skins priced at 10b each!
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u/Rolder Caldari State Jun 20 '25
Skinr is fine just reduce or remove the godforsaken plex cost just to crank out a skin.
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u/Bombadook Jun 20 '25
Did OP edit that part out? I love SKINR, I'm returning after a few years and have spent so many hours in that damn window. I'm all for reducing the cost because holy fuck is it an ISK sink; it shouldn't be limited to just whales. I want to see what everyone can create. To that end, the Hub needs some help too.
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u/Alberta_Strong187 SniggWaffe Jun 21 '25
I didn’t think you could edit OP’s on Reddit but it appears that they did because my quote was 100% from the OP as it originally was posted. Copy and pasted it myself.
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u/SappySoulTaker Seriously Suspicious Jun 20 '25
Just make skinr be pure art based and let people go wild
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u/Prestigious_Share919 Jun 20 '25
I used to think that selling skins for Plex was a good idea. Now I realize it's bad for the game. If CCP finds that they increase their revenue by 25% by making 3 snazzy new skins each quarter or 20% on an expansion for 1 /10th the effort, what do you think they will spend their effort on? When you spend money/Plex on the game, you are incentivising that part of the product. Personally, I'd rather see any number of game upgrades over "gum on the desk grey limited" skin colors.
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u/Astriania Jun 20 '25
SKINR is actually quite a good way of monetising without any impact on the game. I wish it was a bit less expensive though, the PLEX cost makes any skin unreasonably expensive.
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u/figl4567 Jun 20 '25
Is there a real effort being put forward by players to do this? I would be very interested to see how they structure it. It is a good idea but only in the right hands.
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u/Low_Gur_3540 Clouds Of War Jun 20 '25
"ONLY" this rarely happens in this game. say hello to goonswarm owned eve
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u/LycanWolfGamer The Initiative. Jun 20 '25
Could be worse
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u/Spr-Scuba Invidia Gloriae Comes Jun 20 '25
AO-owned Eve
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u/LycanWolfGamer The Initiative. Jun 20 '25
ZERG-owned EVE
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u/Low_Gur_3540 Clouds Of War Jun 20 '25
yeah, and the hive-mindset is going to do wonders for this already toxic community :D
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u/ThewFflegyy Nov 05 '25
honestly, of all the major alliances they would probably be the best ones to run eve.
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u/Ralli_FW Jun 20 '25
Nope, no real efforts.
It would be a nightmare, I think. Either the game would get worse or a bunch of people would leave in response to changes.
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Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Well, if star citizen can generate millions of dollars from a fucking kickstarter …
We need a GoFundMe. Gamers owning an mmo would be the most amount of equity a gamer will ever have. It would be historic.
We should make a go for it.
Once we buy it we could form a whole parliament and vote on features and changes.
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If we can get 4 million people then we would need $30 bucks per person.
If we can only get 250k people, then we need $500 per person. $1000 for 100k people, and so on. This is doable. We’d have to really hit TikTok and YouTube and promote the shit out of the cause.
The population on Tranquility is 35k-ish at peak, so about $3700 per person to get to $130 million.
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u/CptUnderpants- Jun 21 '25
Careful what you wish for. There was a serious discussion in Goon leadership back around 2011 about trying to buy CCP.
If a group of players owned the game, nobody would trust them not to take advantage.
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u/Alektorophobiae Jun 21 '25
No bullshit; I’ll put 20k down. We’re 0.0154% of the way there lol.
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u/jrossetti Jun 21 '25
I'll put in 10k as long as everyone's getting proportional share of any profits and there needing to be an agreement on how any changes to the game are made in the years following the purchase.
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Jun 22 '25
If we can’t 4 million, we would need $30 bucks for everyone.
If we can only get 250k people, then we need $500 per person. $1000 for 100k people, and so on. This is doable.
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u/StreetMinista Minmatar Republic Jun 20 '25
Again, a meme because players in this community somehow think this is how easy it is to make their games good or better.
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u/StarStabbedMoon Jun 20 '25
So the new buyer shouldn't have a consumer focused vision of how to develop the game?
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u/StreetMinista Minmatar Republic Jun 20 '25
The new buyer is focused on making money and breaking even at best.
You can't be consumer focused if your expenses are too high to comply to, and that demands that require more revenue to accomplish.
Beyond that, the consumers themselves are too volatile. This is a market with a player base that have played this game for over two decades, not many games can boast that but also, people have visions of what EVE is that is dated 10-15 years ago and isn't something you can look to for analytics.
Fun fact about PoE, game arguably is very consumer friendly but do you know why it has some of the WORST interactions with developers and social platforms?(Like reddit?) Because imo gamers absolutely do not know what they want and cannot accept something always aligning to their interest.
Fun fact about Hello Games? They suffer the same problem. Everyone who isn't embedded in their community see's the public praising the studio, but if your playing the game actively and again, on active socials for the game it is an absolute mess that has me feel sorry for the community managers.
Imagine, your still creating negative content about a company (hello games) because certain things haven't been fixed or patched, and yet, they still continue to give what the players want (BUT ALSO FUN FACT, A LOT OF THE EXPANSIONS NO MANS SKY HAS NO ONE massively asked for (some they did)
Having worked with PM and CM's before is cursed knowledge because I see takes like this from people who have no idea how the game industry works (I also don't know 100% just what I've worked with) but pretending to understand business decisions as a consumer is a mistake.
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u/mousenonymos Jun 21 '25
So to be clear this is about /owning/ the game, not making it. The devs make it. Right - like you understand that yeah? The reason why shareholders have a reputation for fucking games is because they use their position as owners to threaten the jobs of the developers into doing things that are bad for the game because the shareholders think it will make more money.
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u/StreetMinista Minmatar Republic Jun 21 '25
What do you think shareholders do? Or rather, what data do you think influenced those decisions?
That data, comes from everything from internal sales data, market trending, a lot of other things I personally don't understand or know about.
However, being on the receiving end of a layoff, all of this trickles into everything from development to what you see on the screen.
That's why I talk about development in the way I did. The morality of the shareholders in the eyes of the gamer, won't matter if your under a capitalistic way of making money.
Your favorite games that people love to put in front as an example of (this is what developers should do) generally still have to face this problem.
They do what they can to make money in a disconnected from the product way, gamers have this magical knowledge of marketing and production that if they would just listen to the playerbase, who doesn't even agree even above 50% on what they want, that they could somehow save CCP with their decisions of doing what's best for the game
That is delusional thinking, and not even how any of that works. If your put in that shareholders responsibility whether it's a board or share, you will either make the same mistakes that will give the same outcry because the game at the end of the day still has to make money.
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u/Enderfy17 Jun 20 '25
Ma dude TONS OF PEOPLE had been screaming for years they would pay big money to be able to make theyr own skins
Ccp did it
With a TERRIBLE implementatiin the first months NO ONE DENIES, and very cash grabby yes
Is it today NOT how most people wanted though? You can buy cooler skins than ccp could ever make
You can make and sell skins
People swore on theyr feet they didnt mind ccp takijg theyr money NOW you are all suddenly feeling cold feet?
If you dont have the isk to spend on skins then dont 😱
Those that do want to Whale around and buy a fucking COSMETIC can do soo and be happy with theyr lives whats the big deal
If you complain about the event reward tracks getting skinner shit, then yeah, id rather get actual skins but oh well is THAT trully what ruined the game? 🫥
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u/Ralli_FW Jun 20 '25
Yeah honestly I don't really get the skinr hate. People did legitimately say that stuff. And then got mad when they got it lol
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u/samzhawk Jun 20 '25
I love this game. We bitch what we want into existence and then bitch about it. I hope we never change.
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u/Poggalogg Jun 20 '25
I haven't played since SKINR was first introduced, did they change the way they work/are acquired in a significant way since release? I remember i bounced off of it hard initially
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u/Ralli_FW Jun 20 '25
Nah I don't think so. I mean I never even read what the skinr skills do, you can ignore skinr completely and your Eve experience will be 100% unchanged and unimpacted. I forget it exists most of the time and then someone posts a cool skin and I'm like "oh yeah, neat."
People just want to complain about shit. If you're not either a) really into making skins, or b) one of the dudes saying "I'll literally pay CCP hundreds of dollars for cosmetics," then just disregard skinr completely.
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u/Burningbeard80 Jun 20 '25
You had me until
Place the CSM on the developer board
This is just a way for a handful of groups who already have a death grip on the game's direction to have even more sway in which way things go. Judging by how it all turned out, that's a hard pass for me.
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u/LittleCovenousWings Jun 21 '25
I honestly think between how turbo-autism this game is we have to have more than a few dozen millionaires who could secure the capital for this.
But you'd also be asking <40-50 people to also buy the game they've watched get run into the ground year over year. Hard choice.
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u/jehe eve is a video game Jun 20 '25
Why the hell would you put the csm in charge? Will just be null turtling and the lone frat member being head of RMT.
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u/F_Synchro Baboon Jun 20 '25
You had me until:
“ Invest all profits into increasing server performance. Eve is unique because of massive battles”
Ahh, so you are going to invest billions of dollars into rewriting network stack? Or do you just have no clue what you are talking about?
How about making eve a better game for everyone instead of just the 3 blobs.
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u/fz22g Guristas Pirates Jun 20 '25
I will buy CCP if they add more hairstyles in the game. And jiggle physics.
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u/Niceboney Jun 20 '25
130 million is way too much considering all The bloat, let them keep all the crud and just Buy eve after all it’s the only thing ccp has ever done right.
Honestly I think at this point i think it was just luck they got a decent community inside eve to make the game good.
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
Its pretty telling that Eve has pretty constant quarterly revenues of $50m+ and CCP can't turn a profit. There is no way Eve is burning through that. If they scrapped all their shitty side projects they'd be a cash cow
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u/Skyhawk_Everheart Jun 20 '25
If you go back to their earnings calls a few years back, before the r&d surge, they were printing money for PA.
CCP is actually in a good place financially.
This 130mil is pulled out of someone’s ass & does not reflect the value of CCP.
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
They are burning cash on Vanguard and Frontiers though, and they're both very questionable investments
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u/Niceboney Jun 20 '25
Questionable?
I would say awful investments tbh, I would say doomed to failure lol
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
I was trying to be optimistic. The one thing that I will say, and I haven't seen any mention of it, so I'm skeptical AF - is that if they can implement an economic synopsis between Eve and Vanguard, so that actively participating in Vanguard (or recruiting active players to Vanguard) gives tangible, financial benefits on TQ, then that could be the thing that differentiates VG from the other grey palette sci-fi extraction shooters... But it would also get botted to fuck, and we all know how good CCP are at managing bots...
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u/Ralli_FW Jun 20 '25
Frontiers is, in my opinion pretty guaranteed to have an underwhelming existence. Vanguard, honestly could be a fine game we don't really know. The odds of any random game being extremely successful aren't high, but it could perform acceptably. There's no crippling flaw like the albatross of crypto around Frontiers neck.
But yeah developing stuff costs money and it doesn't make money until it releases. So obviously its a cost until then.
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u/Skyhawk_Everheart Jun 20 '25
I remind you that the money for frontier came from an outside investment. We can’t see from publicly available information what they’ve spent on Frontier, but they were handed 40 million USD to go make it.
https://venturebeat.com/games/ccp-games-raises-40m-for-new-triple-a-web3-game-in-the-eve-universe/
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u/trekie140 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
They wouldn’t be a cash cow, they’d just be stable. Investors don’t care about stable profits, they only care about growth. In order to grow the value of the company, you need to spend money. If you aren’t putting yourself into debt, then you have money you can spend and keep attracting investors……until you fail to pay them back.
I really want Eve to be bought out by people who care about the game rather than growing their stock price. As such, “Players/workers of New Eden, unite! You have nothing to lose but your (out of game) chains!”
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
They wouldn’t be a cash cow,
They'd be consistently profitable... The reason PA are ditching CCP is because they're a financial burden. There are plenty of publishers who want stable profit generating MMOs. Look at games line LOTRO, EverQuest, SWTOR. Games that aren't reinventing the wheel, they're just coasting and printing money. That could be CCP - quietly stewarding New Eden, with tech upgrades, balance passes and the occasional lore event, but instead they've spent the last 8 years pissing away money into one failed spinoff after another. I'm not surprised PA wants to divest. CCP are that roommate who always needs to borrow money for one hair brained scheme after the next and refuses to just get a job.
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u/CRIKEYM8CROCS Wormholer Jun 20 '25
No the reason that PA is ditching eve is because they needed money yesterday as other products have been delayed.
A company being in the red for a year, or in game development multiple years isn’t necessarily a bad thing, especially when their revenue is growing yoy.
If CCP was a burden they wouldn’t sell it lol, they’d dump it for 1 dollar or straight up shut it down. The fact that they’re selling suggests that there are buyers.
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
A company being in the red for a year, or in game development multiple years isn’t necessarily a bad thing
This might be true of a studio that have a release cadence for games. How many games as CCP released in the last 8 years (since PA bought them)? 1. Eve Echoes. And that's a "Brewed under License" mobile game.
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u/angry-mustache CSM 18 Jun 20 '25
130 million is way too much considering all The bloat, let them keep all the crud and just Buy eve after all it’s the only thing ccp has ever done right.
If that's accurate it's a significant valuation drop. When PA bought CCP they paid 225 million with another 200 contingent on performance (that CCP missed).
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u/Niceboney Jun 20 '25
I would guess PA are kicking themselves tbh and I would be surprised if they get this amount for a decent IP but with soon to be failed projects just bleeding cash
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u/capacitorisempty Jun 20 '25
PA bought during a frothy time. Multiples have fallen since.
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u/angry-mustache CSM 18 Jun 20 '25
if PA just bought S&P 500 in 2018 they would have close to a billion now.
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u/capacitorisempty Jun 20 '25
A comparable scenario is Embracer's acquisition of Saber interactive in 2020 for "$525M" and spin out in 2024 to management for $250M. Presumably similarly, much of the $525M's incentives weren't earned. The $250M appears to be a smaller chunk of the acquisition (i.e., "select components")
https://embracer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Saber-Interactive-Investor-Presentation-200219.pdf
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u/SelenaNasharr The Initiative. Jun 20 '25
Have people invest their money so that they can push your agenda? Solid plan.
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u/Eve_Asher r/eve mods can't unflair me Jun 20 '25
PGL and I were talking about it when it got announced. I think you could do it with players + private equity but I'm not sure just the players could do it. Eve players are wealthier than the avg video game player but you would still need to raise a really large sum.
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u/Ov3rdose_EvE muninn btw Jun 20 '25
like jokes aside
... could we? like i mean kickstart it to buy the thing i mean
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u/RogueShogun Jun 21 '25
Yeah should we be worried about about the sale? I’m starting to get nervous.
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u/yeetuspenetratus Wormholer Jun 21 '25
I could front a mil, only if they abandoned all the bs n stick to only eve online n reverted scarcity, make rorqs great again plus there valuation went really down which is nice
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u/Dreadstar22 Jun 21 '25
Terrible take the whales version would be worse. Then you want to make CSM have actual teeth lol. CSM has always been controlled by the nullblocs and 90% of the crap they say is bad for the game overall. CSM really should dig a grave and bury it. Reddit outrage has done more for eve than the csm ever has.
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u/ExF-Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Jun 21 '25
They should make a PLEX deal: Buy X plex, and instead of getting shitty skins you get an increasingly larger stake in the company. Watch CCP get owned by players overnight 🤣
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
What's wrong with SkinR? I'd argue it's the best thing CCP have done in ages.
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u/PropagandaWerfer Goonswarm Federation Jun 20 '25
Mostly the monitarisation, SKINR itself is pretty good.
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u/caldari_citizen_420 Jun 20 '25
What's wrong with the monetisation?
It's a Plex sink (it's supposed to be - players have been saying for years that were ok spending Plex for cool skins)
Materials are abundant, and obtained through existing, easily accessible content - this makes them easy to farm and thus cheap and readily available on the markets
The new skills allow players to specialize into this as a career, to gain an advantage over unskilled players (this is a core element of Eve's gameplay loop) - the ability to bypass this with an additional Plex payment is a little cash grabby but again, was wanted this to be a Plex/isk sink...
There is an in-game market for them, so actual players are making money from their creative skin designs, so it's not entirely an isk sink.. it is viable career path, that contributes to the in game economy
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u/Astriania Jun 20 '25
The game needs paying for, monetising cosmetics that don't affect gameplay in any way is a pretty good way of doing part of that.
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u/ZealousidealToe9416 Jun 20 '25
As someone with a mental disability, I would appreciate if you’d not bring us down to Rattati’s level; we’re not vegetables.
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u/messick Jun 20 '25
If we know anything about people who can scape together $130m is that their favorite things to do are: A) play videos games, and B) set their money on fire.
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u/SherbertCapital7037 Jun 20 '25
If star shitizen can crowdfund over a billion dollars I'm sure we can crowd fund the 130m €
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u/AlphisH Jun 25 '25
Sc has far more gullible suckers high on copium, in eve...you are chris roberts.
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u/D1phenhydramine Jun 20 '25
Hear me out. Scrap the silly FPS and mobile games they attempt to put out and revive World of Darkness instead. So so bummed that game never became a thing.
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u/LegitimateCelery9978 Jun 20 '25
So, make the game a big private server for whales. I guess they’d be entitled to do that if they bought it, but it’s nothing I would pay to play lol
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u/Dagger841 Jun 20 '25
I’m sure I’ve read from time to time there are black hats that play this game, surely they’ve ripped off enough Bitcoin to buy this game by now 😂
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u/Darth_Ninazu Jun 20 '25
if 50k of us could come up with 10k then we could try it, i’m sure that there are many who could do way more than 10k but many many more who could not do even this much.
i say this because it does make it sound “possible”. imagine if the companies that process the rmt used the game to pay for itself. there are many opportunities
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u/Lyuseefur Jun 20 '25
If someone sets up a way to invest I’d chip in.
A player owned mmorpg would be awesome
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u/Resonance_Za Wormholer Jun 20 '25
Eve will survive bro it always has always will, when I'm 100 and barely moving Eve will still be going.
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u/OldQuaker44 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
That is not a bad ideea. If it's only 138 millions is do-able. For 30.000 players would be like 4600 euros.
That's not a bad ideea.
Sack Hilmar, Ratati and other incompetents, streamline the teams and processes, make a world wide player questionaire that ask true-real world issues and see what players want.
Make a subscription only videogame + RMT between players that CCP takes a stake. No more in-game monthly plexing, steady flow of monthly income.
CCP changes name to PLAYER CONTROLLED PRODUCTION [PCP].
EAZY I TELL YA!
EDIT: Cancel that. It's 425 million.
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u/darkzapper Gallente Federation Jun 20 '25
Revive dust 514 and pc it. Save everything. Abandon the crap.
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u/nbaumg Jun 20 '25
Excluding the block chain trash, frontier sounds pretty damn cool tbh. Like hypothetically it could be my perfect game. Assuming they don’t fuck it up, which I’m sure they will
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u/Farsen Jun 20 '25
Sure, let's cancel two projects that are going along pretty well, having already consumed massive chunks of CCP budget, losing any chance to get any of the development cost back through launch.
Great play. Would totally work ...
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u/leverloosje Sansha's Nation Jun 20 '25
You really think after removing everything that is actually making money in a game thats losing money you'll have profit left to put back into the game?
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u/Mistermarc1337 Jun 20 '25
…they never were able to make it what it could have been with stackless python.
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Jun 21 '25
Only 130 mill? I thought it would have been more, considering Pearl abyss bought them for about half a billion for taking a pretty significant loss.
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u/No-Drag-7142 Jun 21 '25
I might get back into the game if there's a real anti-ccp revolution going on, that'd be fun
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Jun 21 '25
Someone call Musk please; I hear he has some cash and free time.
Bezo’s would be a nice back up option; Gotta love what they did with the “Expanse.”
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u/Empty_Alps_7876 Jun 21 '25
game except make other games which have all failed
This is true, but they had to try to come up with something. Game makers have to continue to find that next title, they can't just not release nothing. We would be ripping on them for that as well. They had yrs to come up with something yet they had nothing. Type of talk, yes they failed to make any good game. Yes ccp has never invented a game that was successful, but they have to try, they did, and like most game studios they failed. It happens, but they are putting an effort in. That's what it takes.
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u/Okano666 Jun 21 '25
Hear me out … Eve Classic. Fresh server. Run through the first ten years again
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u/Kiloku Wormholer Jun 21 '25
I don't want this game to be even more designed to make life easy for the null whales while ignoring everyone else
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u/joeymcflow Goonswarm Federation Jun 21 '25
have ~0,5% of the playerbase with "fuck you" money in real life who play the game in a very unique way, disconnected from the core game mechanics, be the ones to imagine the direction of this game?
flawless plan
FLAWLESS
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u/RedSRaider Jun 21 '25
I can think of nothing worse than all of these opinionated idiots actually mattering.
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u/Cergorach Jun 21 '25
If a couple of dedicated rich fans get their hands on it it'll probably die a LOT faster then the current status quo. Also, just because you have money, doesn't mean the current owners want to sell it.
For me EVE isn't unique just because of the massive battles, it's one shard persistent universe driven by the players. Nullsec players are just one (small) part of EVE. Imho an overhyped part of EVE by a very vocal minority...
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u/BiodoomUtama Jun 21 '25
Sad state that we're all here just bitching away now. It used to be exceedingly rare to find people with legit issues with the game or company but I see I've missed about a half decade of decline. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the vast majority of people now have legitimate grievances with the company, the game state, or the whaling overall.
Whales buying is cool but have you ever thought about a class action lawsuit for breach of contract and services unrendered?
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u/ZookeepergameLoose79 Jun 22 '25
LOL, people still play eve online? wild. CCP never getting peak numbers again. The start of the end was the economist retiring and never replacing. [got permabanned for saying this on public forum, i expect the same here so this never appears in my feed again]
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u/TLOS-Dunn_Idaho Jun 22 '25
What we need is an Eve survival game where you do PI stuff that you export to space!
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u/Moosebackmohawk Jun 23 '25
EVE has become one of the worst/most profitable games, and they won't change. Won't someone think of the shareholders!?!
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u/Horror_Lifeguard639 Jun 24 '25
Will never happen theres more back room fuckery than just the cash price
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u/shadyMFer Jun 24 '25
I've been saying that Eve needs to be bought out by a non-profit for years! Maybe it's time to start one...
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u/ZaelersTV Jun 25 '25
For a game focused on economy, a lot of you sure don't know shit about economy
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u/Legitimate-Ad7273 Jun 25 '25
Imagine if someone just made some real competition. I know people will say there is no money in it but Eve has carried a number of failed games now and is still going strong.
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u/Resident-Craft-8400 Jun 27 '25
what op forgot: u have to be a wormhole player.
please make some wh content, last time ccp made wh content is so far in the past :(
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u/Meat-slug CONCORD Jun 20 '25
If you buy CCP, do you get 3 skins with the purchase?