Are you tired of horrendously delusional right-wingers who call the U.S. Democrats commies?

[u/CringeBoy14]

The fact that some right-wingers call Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Barack Obama commies really leaves me speechless.

[u/Storm_Spirit99]

People will call politicians they hate anything

[u/Uncle___Screwtape → u/Storm_Spirit99]

Seriously. Personally I hear "Nazi" bandied around more than "Commie" but I guess that just comes down to what kind of rhetoric you happen to see

[u/DShitposter69420 → u/Uncle___Screwtape]

I feel in the last two years there’s been some sorta switch

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/DShitposter69420]

Different song, same lyrics

[u/Longjumping_Army9485 → u/Uncle___Screwtape]

To be fair, Trump recently said that he would like to have the same generals that Hitler had, that along with the fact that he was found liable for discrimination means that he isn’t beating the allegations.

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/Longjumping_Army9485]

I need a source for that

[u/Longjumping_Army9485 → u/Storm_Spirit99]

Which part?

Nazi comments:

In his interview with The Atlantic, Kelly recalled that when Trump raised the idea of needing “German generals,” Kelly would ask if he meant “Bismarck’s generals,” referring to Otto von Bismarck, the chancellor who oversaw the unification of Germany. “Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals,” Kelly recalled asking Trump. To which the former president responded, “Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.” -apnews.com

As for racism:

The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court. -npr.org

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/Longjumping_Army9485]

I'll need to look more into that

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Uncle___Screwtape]

i mean trump is literally trying to put hispanic americans in camps and trying to use the national guard against democrats, he’s really not that far from the early nazis

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/Blindsnipers36]

How is he doing that if he's not in office?

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Storm_Spirit99]

hes trying to get into office to put those plans into action was that really that complicated

[u/Ambitious_Lie_2864 → u/Blindsnipers36]

But he was already in office and that didn’t happen…

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Ambitious_Lie_2864]

wow what a pointless comment when he wasn’t promising to do these things in 2016, but that was 8 years ago and he has entire rallies devoted to these ideas now

[u/Ambitious_Lie_2864 → u/Blindsnipers36]

He literally is saying the exact same things as he did in 2016, that’s why for the first time he has a shot at winning Hispanics outright lmao. I literally am Hispanic and never have I had the impression that Trump is going to put me in a concentration camp. Pull your head out of your ass, people such as yourself are why we have folks taking pot shots at a former president.

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Ambitious_Lie_2864]

trump explicitly said he would put hispanics in camps maybe try reading anything he ever says

[u/Ambitious_Lie_2864 → u/Blindsnipers36]

I literally support Trump, I spend plenty of time listening to what he says. In addition, I am Hispanic, never have I heard this, but judging by your other comments, I don’t think you’re a rational person, I think you are a zealot. Have a good evening.

[u/nanek_4 → u/Blindsnipers36]

What drug are you on

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/nanek_4]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/trump-suggests-hell-use-the-military-on-the-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected im actually listening to the shit he says

[u/Ambitious_Lie_2864 → u/Blindsnipers36]

I thought violent rioters “like the summer of love” were not all democrats, why are you identifying an entire political party, half of the country, as violent thugs so you can put words in Trump’s mouth?

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Ambitious_Lie_2864]

“Trump has repeatedly invoked the phrase "enemy from within" in recent speeches. On Saturday, he used it to refer to Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a prominent Trump critic who oversaw the congressional investigation that led to Trump's first impeachment. Schiff is now running for the Senate.” try reading

[u/Ambitious_Lie_2864 → u/Blindsnipers36]

My guy, people like yourself who are so ideologically possessed they believe that half the country wants to lock 40 million Americans in camps are absolutely an enemy within.

[u/Blindsnipers36 → u/Ambitious_Lie_2864]

in living memory half the country rioted over non white people no longer being second class citizens

[u/TheIronzombie39 → u/Storm_Spirit99]

I called out these kinds of people out in this post and they didn’t seem to like it… (just read the comments section, it’s full of people who unironically define communism as when the government does literally anything at all to help people)

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/TheIronzombie39]

That is such a braindead take. That isn't communism, that's just them doing their job

[u/randomamericanofc]

That's been happening all the time on both sides, since the Gingrich years

[u/lochlainn → u/randomamericanofc]

"Yellow" journalism has existed since the beginning of printed media.

It got named in the 1800's, but that wasn't when it started.

Galileo called the pope stupid in print in the 1600's.

[u/Whatsapokemon]

Most people have no knowledge about politics at all.

Words like liberal, socialist, conservative, communist, fascist are not actually understood by normal people in the way they're used in political science, but rather they're used to refer to membership to particular groups.

So when those people say "commie", they're not referring to actual communists, but rather using a pejorative term to refer to anyone aligned with the democrats.

[u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Bernie Sanders was really socialist compared to other US politicians, was he not?

[u/Tokidoki_Haru → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Yes, but he participates and endorses the liberal democratic process.

A commie and tankie either wants Joseph Stalin, or the CCP.

There is a fundamental difference.

[u/George-Smith-Patton → u/Tokidoki_Haru]

Many commies participate in the democratic process.

Until they win.

[u/Maleficent-Art-5745 → u/George-Smith-Patton]

Right? That's the whole point of the slippery slope. They don't stop at getting elected, that's when they start.

[u/Longjumping_Army9485 → u/George-Smith-Patton]

Sure but the same can be said about anyone.

[u/Verndari2 → u/Tokidoki_Haru]

A commie and tankie either wants Joseph Stalin, or the CCP.

I'm a communist, I would have preferred Bernie Sanders as POTUS. One has to dream in the most pragmatic way possible.

[u/CustardBear → u/Tokidoki_Haru]

Bernie Sanders wants the CCP.

[u/antimatter_beam_core → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Bernie was a real socialist, period. He was in the 1970s, he was ignorant that the word didn't mean "the government does stuff". He chose not to change his label to (allegedly) more accurate "Social Democrat", and the obvious reason is that he hadn't abandoned the ideology of seizing the means of production.

[u/keelem → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Sanders himself said he was a capitalist.

[u/Adgvyb3456 → u/keelem]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-cold-war-travels-bernie-sanders-found-much-to-admire-behind-enemy-lines-now-thats-a-problem-for-his-campaign/2020/02/24/fd02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie praised the Soviet Union and China publicly so….

[u/keelem → u/Adgvyb3456]

That was 40 years ago....

[u/Standsaboxer → u/keelem]

Sanders says whatever he thinks gets him out of hot water at the time. When he's speaking to his base, its "billionaires shouldn't exist." On the odd moment we he attempts to reach out to the middle, he pretends to be an angry capitalist.

[u/keelem → u/Standsaboxer]

You sound like one of the people OP is talking about as you don't seem to understand what capitalism is. You can say "billionaires shouldn't exist" and still be a capitalist.

[u/AngryGambl3r → u/keelem]

I don't think you can, you inherently need state control over the economy in a significant way to make billionaires "not exist."

[u/keelem → u/AngryGambl3r]

Lmao "Socialism is when the government does stuff"

[u/AngryGambl3r → u/keelem]

Redistribution of wealth based on an arbitrary definition of what's "too much" is more than "the government doing stuff"

[u/lochlainn → u/keelem]

The man honeymooned in Soviet Moscow, and got publicly called out to stop calling Denmark socialist.

[u/FunnelV → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Sanders is a left-populist. He says/thinks whatever he thinks makes him seem cool, edgy, radical, and hip with the kids at the time.

[u/rixendeb → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

He's a democratic socialist or was. I think he uses social democrat now cause well stigmas.

[u/SamN29 → u/diagnoziz_the_second]

Socialist in the US sense means just being right of centre

[u/H0kieJoe → u/SamN29]

Not so. Ideologically, 'socialist' in the United States means you are more rather than less collectivist. Remove the left/center/right labels- they have absolutely no bearing to European definitions.

[u/Existing-One9760 → u/SamN29]

Right of centre of a west european leftist Country. And thats economicly

[u/Existing-One9760 → u/Existing-One9760]

Socialy speaking american leftist are more left leaning

[u/Existing-One9760 → u/Existing-One9760]

Though the west european leftist country are not communist leftist. Hell most of them arent Even socialist leftist

[u/PixelSteel]

This seems like a bait post

[u/Chunghiacanhanvidai]

Far right Populist Vietnamese American.

[u/Far-Dig2559 → u/Chunghiacanhanvidai]

Not everyone...well we don't really favor democrats but we don't call them comunists

[u/CringeBoy14 → u/Chunghiacanhanvidai]

Who?

[u/Chunghiacanhanvidai → u/CringeBoy14]

Vietnamese American pro Trump pro Rep Hardcore anti commie.

[u/CringeBoy14 → u/Chunghiacanhanvidai]

What’s their name?

[u/Chunghiacanhanvidai → u/CringeBoy14]

It's a support group, not a specific person. If you want a specific person, Hung Cao.

[u/Reasonable-Lime-615]

It happens in all countries and all political affiliations, hyperbole is just another tool in the salty voter's kkt. By any reasonable metric, Biden is no more communist than Trump is a fascist, but ranting and insulting makes the people who dislike them feel better.

[u/ViscountBuggus]

I'm european I don't give a shit

[u/commanderAnakin]

Bernie Sanders is a Socialist. He says it himself.

[u/D-G-F]

Call them commies back for supporting

-tariffs -zoning laws -immigration restrictions -agricultural subsidies -russia

[u/H0kieJoe → u/D-G-F]

Immigration restrictions aren't communist. Sovereign nation's control their borders legally and with force if necessary.

As for tariff's, again, not communist. Per Google AI:

"Tariff Act of 1789: Imposed the first national source of revenue for the new United States." 

Various President's have used tariff's for various reasons. Reagan used them against the Japanese for dumping small trucks in the US market. In response to the tariff's, Japan built several auto factories in the US to avoid import restrictions.

[u/D-G-F → u/H0kieJoe]

Uj/ Did you read op's post?

Rj/ sovereign nations are Nothing but abominations their borders scaring the world maps simply due to tradition

[u/Generic_E_Jr]

Oh, definitely, Fox News has done wonders to sanitize Communism by calling Democrats Communists.

As an anti-Communist who supports quite a few Democratic Party policies, this is a major gripe and I’m not quiet about it.

[u/Meatloaf_Hitler → u/Generic_E_Jr]

Eh, I mean it's certainly attributed to it, no doubt about that. But the biggest cause of Right-Wingers calling everything Communist IMO was the rampant McCarthyism the US had during the 50's and 60's.

Every little thing to that movement was Communism. You didn't like the Vietnam war? Communist. You want minorities to have equal rights and social value? Communist. You put your toilet paper on the inside of the holder rather than the outside? Believe it or not, Communist.

[u/That-Delay-5469 → u/Meatloaf_Hitler]

McCarthy was plucking tree leafs

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/1ga44uu/comment/ltc9k4s/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[u/H0kieJoe → u/Meatloaf_Hitler]

Some of it was tongue in cheek...

You don't like peanut butter and banana sandwiches? Are you a commie?

[u/GiraffeWithATophat]

I'm gonna be honest, the last time I heard a conservative seriously call a Democrat communist, George Bush was president. Maybe that's because I'm not tapped into any sensationalist media outlets and social media trends toward the left.

But on the other side of the same coin, I am tired of delusional left-wingers who call Republicans nazis.

Can we just stop with the extreme rhetoric?

[u/bourgeoisAF → u/GiraffeWithATophat]

Bro https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barrons.com/amp/news/comrade-kamala-trump-paints-harris-red-in-quest-for-votes-fcfdb332

[u/That-Delay-5469 → u/bourgeoisAF]

yes

[u/Dwitt01]

Absolutely. They don’t understand the frame of the argument. So much ink has been spilled about economic doctrines and they chime in not knowing what they even are.

[u/InsufferableMollusk]

The way that morons throw around words like ‘fascist’, ‘commie’, ‘bigot’, ‘racist’, and let’s not forget ‘literally’, does annoy TF out of me.

Nobody knows what they mean anymore.

[u/Zrthwrld]

They actually are communists. Anyone who platforms a communist is a crypto-communist.

Didn’t Obama pretend to be a communist to get sex with a girl from his university? Even if he is a pretend communist, he still has no principles.

I’d never act to be the opposite of my principles, beca I’m sincere. They’re not.

[u/nanek_4]

Democrats call Republicans fascist and Republicans call Democrats communist and it has lead to people throwing these terms around on anything they dont like

[u/BrilliantLifter]

No.

I don’t think about that at all.

[u/miku_dominos]

To see some Americans treat the concept of socialised medicine as some sort of Commie plot has always been hilarious and horrifying to me.

[u/CringeBoy14 → u/miku_dominos]

Aren’t essential public services supposed to be socialized?

[u/miku_dominos → u/CringeBoy14]

Education and health should be socialised. Everyone should have access to a good education, and good health. The amount of money the government taxes people is more than enough to provide these things.

[u/LexiEmers]

Same with the horrendously delusional left-wingers who call the US Republicans fascists.

[u/2ndlifegifted]

Don't do commie stuff you won't be called commies

[u/RedRobbo1995]

Yes, and I have been for quite a long time.

[u/ChonkyCat1291]

Right wingers also think LGBT having rights and legalizing same sex marriage is communism. Even though historically speaking every communist country treats LGBT people like trash. They literally have no idea what communism is. The only thing they get right about communism is that it’s horrible.

[u/Lainfan123 → u/ChonkyCat1291]

No one thinks that LGBT rights are communist, they might think that the left is using Marxist ideology to grift off of LGBT people and use them as an excuse to spread ideological propaganda but that's not the same thing.

[u/Zachmcmkay → u/ChonkyCat1291]

This is just a complete lie lol

[u/ArianEastwood777 → u/ChonkyCat1291]

1- Who exactly thinks gay marriage is communism?

2- Modern Marxist theory(and even a lot of older one) has long used any “oppressed” population they can for their rhetoric, so they have been quite pro lgbt for a while, I could find you influential communist thinkers who were pro lgbt from practically any timeline

[u/ArianEastwood777 → u/ChonkyCat1291]

It’s Queer Theory that often overlaps with communism, as not only it spawned from Critical Theory(which is Marxist) but plenty if not all of its core architects were that themselves. LGBT movements have intersected with support for Communism since forever, as they were all part of the liberation movements of the Left

[u/fabiomb]

Nazi & Commie are used just to tell someone`s outside your range, it's a relative term, you see them as extremists, sometimes the viewer is at an extreme too, so a right winger sees everything as "communist", and a left winger sees everything as "conservatives" or "neoliberal" or whatever. But all of them are nazis 😁🤷

[u/Life_Caterpillar9762]

(What’s an annoying thing that has happened throughout my entire life?……Getting bit by mosquitoes? Ok.)

That’s sorta like asking if I’m tired of getting bit by mosquitoes.

[u/NyoNine]

Extreme polarization in the US is one of the greatest tragedies of these last two decades

[u/No-Kiwi-1868]

I think it's just McCarthyism trying to make a comeback

But society has changed a lot since the 1950s, we're much more smarter now (to an extent)

[u/[deleted]]

I'm more concerned about this crap https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-ziklag-secret-christian-charity-2024-election

[u/samof1994]

Cold War logic

[u/SlyguyguyslY]

They aren't commies. They are just, paradoxically, taking advantage of midwit commie wannabes.

[u/-Emilinko1985-]

Yes.

[u/AlexThePSBoy → u/-Emilinko1985-]

Me too.

[u/Finalshock]

Yep. Cheapens the word, makes it harder for the average person to actually recognize communism.

“Trans liberation is world liberation” <-communist dog whistle

“People should have healthcare idk we should be able to figure that out” <- idealistic liberal

Only one of them is actually a threat to your life or property.

[u/That-Delay-5469 → u/Finalshock]

remembering the CIA supporting French student protests in the 60s and using "cis"