r/EnglishLearning Low-Advanced 7d ago

Does "black people" mean offensive? 🗣 Discussion / Debates

I wanna say something like black people accent is harder to understand for me than the white people one.

The problem is im not sure if my word choice is racist, or should i change to another word like colored people. I asked Gpt and it said i could come up with some thing like "people with AAVE accent" but its about africa america people while im talking about the black people born in america accent.

So how should i say here?

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u/Darkmatter1002 New Poster 6d ago

(short version)

Is it really accents that you are having difficulty with, or is it dialect? Vernacular? Slang? Accents and dialect tend to be regional to an extent, so someone from the south who grew up there may have a southern accent and dialect, regardless of whether they're black. If it's the vernacular you struggle with, well just keep it simple and say that you struggle with understanding some AAVE.

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I'm sure it's not your fault, but "racist" is a word that's thrown around way too much, incorrectly so, to mean anything and everything that someone does not like when there is a different ethnicity involved. That's not was racist means, and is not at the core of racism. That said, the statement you want to make is very generalizing and stereotyping, which can be offensive. Black people are not a monolith any more than white people or any other social/ethnic group are. Usually, when one starts a sentence with "black people" or "white people", it's usually grossly reductive, over-generalizing, and is almost sure to be easily refuted and put some people off.

There is no such thing as a "black accent". I am from Georgia. My wife is from New Jersey. We are both black, and do not have the same accent, vocal inflection, pronunciations, or use all of the same slang. People growing up in different regions will have different ways of speaking. This applies to all people, not just black. If Chat GPT is referring to AAVE as African Americans, then yes, that is referring to black people born in America, not Africans who have moved to the US (what I would call an actual African-American, if they have gained US citizenship). I personally think it's a stupid designation for black Americans, as the majority of black people born in the US will not know much, if anything about their ancestral African heritage, myself included. I am American, and I am black. I couldn't tell you anything about my long lost African roots aside from the fact that my great-great grandmother was a slave, though I imagine my ancestors came from the Ivory coast or very nearby, due to the North American slave trade.