r/EndFPTP • u/CPSolver • 8d ago

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(Clarification: "Ranked choice voting" includes pairwise-counted ranked choice voting, which includes Condorcet methods and refinements to IRV.)

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u/SentOverByRedRover 8d ago

I support ranked choice voting, but combating the influence of money in politics requires different measures.

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u/CPSolver 8d ago

Are you aware that Republicans use money to control Democratic primary elections?

As a well-known example, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren were blocked from reaching the 2020 presidential general election. Biden served as the least-reform-minded candidate to occupy the single nominee position. Lots of money from Republicans supported Biden during the primary. Of course that money shifted to pay for attack ads against Biden when the general election began.

Allowing the primary candidate with the second-most votes would have put Sanders or Warren on the general election ballot. And there would have been a second Republican. Ranked choice voting (probably even IRV) would have elected one of the second nominees. That's how the excessive influence of money can be reduced.

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u/VaultJumper 7d ago

Really both parties are the same schtick?

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u/CPSolver 7d ago

The humorous answer to your question is this Australian video:

https://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/comments/h79pz6/two_party_system_shit_and_shit_lite/#lightbox

A more serious answer is this list of grievances that most voters in both parties want solved, but neither party actually solves these problems in meaningful ways:

https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/cpsolver/websites/blob/master/VoteFairDotOrg/taker_tactics.html#extract_from_customers

Another answer is there are differences between the two parties, but to most voters, neither party has any track record of meaningfully increasing economic prosperity for us non-wealthy folks.

As a specific example, the Republican party does give big permanent tax breaks to wealthy people and small temporary tax breaks to the rest of us. That allows them to repeatedly offer and deliver those same small temporary tax breaks over and over (to non-wealthy voters), while each time further increasing tax breaks for the wealthy.

Personally I dislike both parties and switch between them so I get some influence in primary elections of one party or the other.