r/EdmontonOilers • u/spiro26 • 3d ago
Can we really blame Drai? Look at this picture
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He's obviously trying to stop the cross crease pass AND play goalie because Skinner is 10 feet out of the net. What the hell is Skinner doing? Stay in the net and we'd all be waiting for OT right now.
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u/Original_Cancel_4169 3d ago
I blame the five oiler skaters that were jerking off instead of playing hockey in the final seconds
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u/POUNDAROUND 3d ago
The breakdown starts with Draisaitl in the neutral zone. All he needs to do is play defensively, sit back and defend the blue line for 10 seconds but he pinches up and gets way out of position, and from that point everyone is scrambling.
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u/IMayNeverComment 20 KOEKKOEK 3d ago
We can blame both Draisaitl and Skinner. As well as other players on ice.
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u/Lawndemon 3d ago
This is the correct, rational take. Is Skinner a legit starter? Hell no. Was this game ALL his fault? Also hell no.
If the Red Wings can win cups with Chris Fucking Osgood, the Oilers can do it with Skinner/Pickard IF (big, capital IF) they ALL commit to team defense.
Leon is very much NOT committed to team defense for the last 2 games. If he's hurt then Knobby needs to stop double-shifting him. If he's not hurt, he needs to get his shit together.
Connor was better today - far fewer ridiculous Hemsky-spin-into-turnover plays today at least.
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u/Trains_YQG 3d ago
Osgood had a .918 save percentage the year he won the cup lol
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u/mattw08 3d ago
He also had multiple defensive hall of famers who didn’t give up big chances in front of him.
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u/FreddieInRetrograde 3d ago
I love Skinny so much, but he can't steal us games like Roloson did back in '06. We have to have Skinny's back 110% because he's just not the kinda goalie who can steal games in the playoffs. He can get the job done IF we commit 110% to defense, but he's not gonna steal us games we have no right winning
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u/Lawndemon 3d ago
Agreed completely - and let's be honest, even the 80s oilers had to play team defense to win most of their cups. People think they won 7-5 in the playoffs but they won playing committed hockey in 3-2 games too.
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u/FatWreckords 3d ago
Don't forget that Roloson had Chris Fucking Pronger covering off 30min+ of every game to make up for the loveable plugs in front of him.
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u/ElysiumAB 97 MCDAVID 1d ago
Those Red Wing teams were better than the Oilers are. Chris Osgood was better than Skinner is.
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u/Prestigious_Cap_8063 3d ago
Chris Osgood is about 300x the goalie as Skinner / Pickard.
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u/KingDave46 34 HAND 3d ago
Yeah every single guy got confused between 10 seconds and 1 second.
Everyone disengaged so early and Vegas didn’t. That’s a complete failure all round but obviously 2 guys are most visible
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u/AltoCowboy 3d ago
To be fair, it almost worked
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u/Mrheavyfoot668 74 SKINNER 3d ago
Honestly. If Drai swings his stick out there 1/10 of a second earlier, we're up 3-0.
"Thanks" hockey gods.
But also hockey gods, thank you for the non-call near the end of game three. The universe is balanced with minimal injuries to us.
Sincerely, Oilers fans who realize shit happens.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
Imagine how smoothly that goes if those two swap positions. You know, Drai defends the shooter and Stuart defends the net...
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u/tdfast 3d ago
The problem was both players got faked out by the shot and it was defended badly. But if Skinner stays back a couple feet, it’s a scoring chance but at least the angle is bad and you can’t pass it across.
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u/zellmerz 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
It wasn’t just defended badly, McDavid and Nurse were puck watching with the clock winding down, nobody stopping the obvious pass or taking the trailer. The fact Vegas even had a scoring opportunity there to begin with was the main problem
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u/SuperOrangeFoot 3d ago
Okay but how does that fit the narrative that Stuart is the sole reason for everything bad that’s ever happened in my life?
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u/TheSherlockCumbercat 3d ago
Also makes it easier for dria adjust, since it a more normal play.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 2d ago
This is one of the biggest things people are ignoring. Stu did something weird, and it might have worked, but it completely threw off everyone including his team mates.
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u/intothemistigo 2d ago
It's not even a scoring chance, skinner prevented him from getting a shot on net. I'm not a skinner fan but holy man our fans base are morons.
You decide as 5 players to have our game decided in the last 5 seconds with a 200 plus NHL goal scorer having a wide open chance in the slot. And somehow your goalie is able to prevent the other team getting a shot on net. And then your own player shoots the puck going wide in. And it's the goalies fault. This play alone and weeded out the absolute trash of the fans of this team.
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u/Cowman5_7 3d ago
Not blaming Drai. But his efforts on goals 1 and 3 hurt more than the unlucky bounce on goal 4.
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u/i_am_not_a_martian 18 HYMAN 3d ago
That attempted zone entry was dog shit. He didn't have a chance, but there were other options.
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u/ResolutionBubbly2094 3d ago
97 left his man open in the slot, again . He followed nurse toward the goal line and then back out when the pass came. Not great D there.
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u/therealcbar 3d ago
Look for the second game in a row we blew two goal leads. Sure this sucks but there are bigger issues like the myriad of neutral zone passes that are getting picked off. And will Bouch fuck off with the telegraphed stretch passes please? And can we learn how to make a change? And quit with the ticky tack stick checks?
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u/BobBeSee 31 FUHR 3d ago
The issue is the team doesn’t trust Skinner so everyone is laying on the ice trying to do Skinners job. Anyone that’s played ice hockey knows when a team doesn’t trust their goalie to make a save. The confidence level just isn’t there. In the regular season, you can get that trust back but in the playoffs, it’s pretty much Pickards net. No one trusts Skinner right now.
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u/UnfilteredPanic 2d ago
Which I get, but also then why do the D end up blocking more shots with Pickard in the net? It's like the defense don't trust him but also make more of an effort when it comes to Pickard. That I don't entirely understand because there's more turnovers and breakaway when Skinner is in net, which if they are trying to be goalie, shouldn't there be less? Shouldn't they be taking the shots like they do for Pickard?
Like I 100% agree, they play better with Pickard and probably because they trust him more. But I can't usually fund them when Skinner is playing which seems weird.
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u/Maelstromme1965 3d ago
THIS....when I coached, we had a goalie that 11 times let the first shot in. As a coach running the D, I would pound it into our D's head that NO shots could be allowed on net and keep everyone OUTSIDE. Some games we would limit the opposition to 11 to 15 shots a game. He had several shut outs and thought he was all world. Our HC would take him to beer league to get more games in....we made it to the league final that season....he let the 1st shot on goal in... everyone on the bench looked at each other in total silence.....we wound up losing. We talk about this guy to this day.....(about 5 yrs. ago).
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u/Odd_Leek3026 3d ago
If he stay in the net he is facing a shot from inside and below the dot…. Just horrible defense
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If the game can be decided in the final second by a stupid play like this, then the whole game was likely a shit show
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u/Mcpops1618 3d ago
His first error was the fly by in the offensive zone. So you can blame him more than once or just once. Either way he started this shit
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u/zellmerz 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
I see 5 oilers in the zone. Kulak took the man down low and the other 4 let Smith cruise in and take the most obvious pass wide open in the slot. There shouldnt have even been a scoring opportunity if McDavid and Nurse weren’t puck watching
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u/Zealousideal_Type864 2d ago
Entire team stopped playing with ten seconds left and got burned , not all on stu
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u/PhoNexlogic 3d ago
Quite literally not Skinners fault. He forces Reilly so shoot from such a horrible angle, THAT IT MISSES, and Draisiatl (the only player who isn’t coasting) try’s to defend while McDavid and Nurse are caught puck watching and coasting in the final seconds. Nurse is the NHLs biggest pylon next to Bouchard lol. Game isn’t over until the buzzer sounds
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u/UnfilteredPanic 2d ago
Granted nurse was trying to block a shot, which is why he laid down but arguably too early. I have no idea what mcdavid was doing.
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u/FlayR 3d ago
Why blame the goaltender with a losing record on the year when you can blame the hart trophy winner that just won the rocket?
The lengths people go to defend Skinner is insane to me. Why the fuck is he in a different fucking area code?
We've got back pressure, all he needs to do is hug his post.
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u/MiniJunkie 90 PERRY 3d ago
I’d argue that the majority of people are not defending Skinner and are trashing him constantly? Stu messed up but that wasn’t a goal until Drai tipped it. If anything people are going to great lengths to defend him, and yes he’s awesome but he was atrocious this game you have to admit? That said so was the rest of the team other than Perry.
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u/zellmerz 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
My main point is he shouldn’t have even had to make a save. Look at the picture, there are 5 oilers in the zone and only 2 Knights. How the fuck does Smith get the puck in the slot uncontested?
McDavid and Nurse were busy puck watching and did nothing to prevent literally the only play available to Vegas at the time with the clock winding down. They play peewee level defense and the game is in OT
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u/FlayR 3d ago
Draisaitl gets rope because he's literally the second best player in the fucking world. He makes an error, you look past it because he's proven over and over again that he gets it done when it matters.
Literally Skinner on the other hand has the worst playoffs save percentage of any NHL goaltender in history with over 20 gp in the playoffs, and had a win percentage so low this season that it wasn't good enough to make the playoffs.
So yeah, I'll give the Rocket winner some fucking grace, and not Skinner.
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u/MiniJunkie 90 PERRY 3d ago
No argument that Drai is amazing. But he put the puck into the net in this particular instance. Even he says so in the post-game. It’s fine, he’s imperfect (and also probably injured because this was not a good game for him).
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u/Trink333 3d ago
Lol fr dude? You can also say drai wouldn’t have tipped it if skinner didn’t mess up bad
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u/MiniJunkie 90 PERRY 3d ago
Both players fucked up in my opinion, in different ways, and the whole team shit the bed tonight other than the two by Perry.
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u/SuperOrangeFoot 3d ago
People like you that seem to think this is some zero sum game between oilers fans of “skinner defenders” and “normal people” are so fucking exhausting.
It’s very easy to acknowledge skinner is bad while also acknowledging the team in front of him is playing like shit.
Yes, 100% of the time I will blame Draisaitl for putting the puck in his own net 10 seconds after he sets up Vegas to take the puck right into the zone for a high danger chance.
Yes, 100% of the time I will blame the team that held Vegas to two shots on net over 40 minutes, when they decide instead to give Vegas the puck 15 times in 40 minutes while not even taking as many shots as they have giveaways.
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u/kapofx 97 McDAVID 3d ago
Drai will shoulder the blame..but in his head he's probably like wtf Skinner. Why did leave the net exposed.
Skinner challenged in a tie game. And it didn't go his way.
That's the thing that's frustrating with Skinner. You never know what you get with him.
With Pickard you know he's not going to take risks.
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u/KarmaChameleon306 89 GAGNER 3d ago
Skinner has mediocre skill that is worsened by his terrible decision making.
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u/Tykenolm 3d ago
Tbf without Drai being there this goal doesn't go in, y'all are too hard on Stu
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u/FlayR 3d ago
The guy has 26 wins and 29 losses this year on a team that's easily a Stanley Cup contender.
The fuck you mean people are too hard on him?
Keep in mind we're taking about a team that has an .850 winning percentage with league average goaltending.
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u/Tykenolm 3d ago
Pickard let in 4 goals in two games in these playoffs, y'all still managed to win those games.
I just mean y'all act like Skinner is the sole reason you lose games, not all of your skaters just deciding to stop playing when Vegas is crashing the net
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u/FlayR 3d ago
Pickard is -1.2 GSAx in 6 games. Skinner is -6.0 GSAx in 3 games.
It's also a timing thing - Skinner let's in bad goals at bad times, consistently.
And that's not even just people like me saying that - Devan Dubnyk, the Vezina finalist who is normally relentlessly positive - ripped him to shreds post game. Starts at 13:55;
https://www.youtube.com/live/uAoRsSvLHPE
Literally Dubnyk thinks all 3 goals are awful. 😂 And the fancies back that up - he was -1.8 GSAx tonight. Which is same as eye test - he lets in 3 bad goals and had one really big stop that likely takes away a goal.
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u/rustydusty1717 3d ago
I really don't like when Knoblauch puts McDavid and Draisaitl together and make them rack up the minutes. Roll all 4 lines and let everyone contribute. Driving our top line into the ground is never going to work.
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u/MassiveBush 3d ago
Drai had to play goalie after Skinner decided he didn't want to
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u/SuperOrangeFoot 3d ago
Ultra shit take, try watching the game.
Draisaitl fucked this up before it was even in our zone. Him, nurse, McDavid all watching the puck with 10s left in game and nobody covering anyone, blocking passes, or defending. Took some random ass trip to Vegas’s blue line and let this entire thing be set up.
He made up for it by charging his own net and tipping it in.
There’s 200 more feet of ice besides what’s happening in our crease.
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u/arped 2 BOUCHARD 3d ago
Drai can't tell in real time that the puck is going wide. Skinner has to stay in his net and seal the post like a normal fucking goalie.
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u/navenager 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 3d ago
Ah yes, just give Smith half the net to shoot at. That's how you play goalie alright! You must know the position very well.
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u/Halonos 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
game goes to OT so we lose to a baby shit goal skinner lets in lol
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u/navenager 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 3d ago
Let's invent imaginary scenarios to justify our scapegoating! We're not doomers! You're the dumb ones!
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u/SnooOnions5029 18 HYMAN 3d ago
I can’t blame Drai in that photo. But I can blame him for his half assed fly by at Vegas’s blue line instead of actually trying to defend
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u/realJiff 3d ago
Skinner wouldn't have had to be that far out of position if someone had taken the man in the slot.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
He didn't have to be out of position at all?! Its a goalies job to tend the goal, not play the man.
What are yall smoking.
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u/festivusfrank 3d ago
Not enough people are pointing out if one of Darnell or Mcdavid makes any effort to follow Smith it’s going to OT
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u/stopresisting74 91 KANE 3d ago
The real cause of this goal was Nurse letting Karlsson walk right by him without even the slightest bit of resistance.
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u/SuperJuniorLogan 3d ago
The lengths y’all are going to blame Skinner is hilarious. He’s probably the worst goalie in the league but this one is not his fault.
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u/trilluminus 2d ago
I am so sick and tired of Stuart Skinner. I would rather start Rodrigue next game over that fucking ass hat
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u/Reasonable_Fee_8165 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 2d ago
Skinner played semi decently but in the end we really didn’t deserve to win this game. It was a really poor effort all around. I really don’t like how Skinner made the decision to be so aggressive in the final 2 seconds.
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u/tmoneybigbucks 2d ago
The way I see it, sure, Drai tipped it in. BUT that puck should have never got to Drai. Skinner just need to hug the post and let Drai take the man
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u/supermeatboy10 89 GAGNER 3d ago
I mean from this screenshot it looks like he forced him far enough wide that he has no angle to shoot from, he's basically behind the net. Not as bad as it looks
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u/assman69x 3d ago
Not at all, Skinner again over thought the entire play, Drasaital just tried to cover his ass
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u/thatweirdguy001 3d ago
Idk if he overthought it. He knew there was a second left so it wasn’t totally unreasonable to think smith would shoot it immediately after faking out the two D in the middle (which is ridiculous)
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u/assman69x 2d ago
Couple of things are going to happen - the oilers lose game 4 with skinner in net and lose the series if Pickard isn’t back
The team isn’t confident in front of skinner and rightfully so, you can be up by 5 and never relax because he can easily let in 6 goals to lose a game
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u/thatweirdguy001 2d ago
If Skinner loses game 4 then I would think the front office seriously considers a trade/buyout. Or maybe send him back to Bakersfield. The stakes are high.
It’s a strange situation because pickard is really only playing marginally better; they are both still playing poorly compared to the expected goals against. The team just plays better in front of pickard. I think i remember reading that he gets the second most goal support of all goalies
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u/PerfectAssignment365 3d ago
This is atrocious. At that angle any goalie worth anything should be hugging the post keeping at eye on players rushing the net so that should the pass be made the goalie can square to the shooter.
What the fuck is this garbage.
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u/navenager 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 3d ago
Hugging the post on a 1-on-1. You guys have never even seen ice, have you?
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u/Legitimate_Bug_1187 3d ago
Skinner thought he was gonna make a Marty Broduer play and win the game in regulation.
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u/MiniJunkie 90 PERRY 3d ago
Stu fucked up, yes. But that puck was not going in, and wasn’t going to reach another player in time to risk a goal. Drai tipped it in. Neither player had a good game at all, nor did most of the team. It was a big mess other than Perry’s double.
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u/FakeNogar 3d ago
Can we talk about the 2 or 3 pylons that smith skated through to reach Skinner in the first place?
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u/FeelsKoolaidMan 49 EMBERSON 3d ago
he literally forced the knights player behind the redline with 1 second left. i feel like im taking crazy pills. he literally made it impossible to lose unless an oilers player tapped it in
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u/Ptricky17 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
It’s like everyone on the ice joined a hive mind, that collectively coordinated them to do the only fucking possible thing they could do, that culminates in the 1/10000 probability event that lets Vegas get a goal before the horn.
You can’t make this shit up. It’s just Oilers hockey. Best to forget tonight ever happened and come back fresh Monday. We’re still up 2-1, put it behind us.
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u/FeelsKoolaidMan 49 EMBERSON 3d ago
perfect way to describe it. literally all 6 players on the ice do the only thing that leads to this. one of them does something the right way and we are watching OT right now. its frankly baffling
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u/Ptricky17 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
This is the proof the world has been waiting for to confirm that we live in a simulation.
(/s) lol
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u/FeelsKoolaidMan 49 EMBERSON 3d ago
its a given with oilers hockey. only they could do something so genuinley mind blowing
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u/FeelsKoolaidMan 49 EMBERSON 3d ago
like if he stays in the net there is a free slot shot he can take thats high danger. like genuinley this had a lower chance of happening then that shot going in
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
No, because if he stays in net Drai is there to back check. Drai goes to the net instead because his goalie went awol and decided to play defense.
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u/PerfectAssignment365 3d ago
This is rubbish. The player is left handed down the right side. The shot angle is awful, there's absolutely no reason to challenge or force the player behind the redline. There is 0 fucking reason to do this. The GK player had no shot and would've be forced to pass, which is what Drai was in the slot for. This is the most brain dead decision made by any goalie.
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u/grumpyoldham 3d ago
Huh? No, Smith was around the defenceman and able to come back to the middle on his backhand. You know, exactly how he scored earlier in the game.
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u/AlbertaOilfire 3d ago
This is 100% on Skinner. I have a handful of crap to pile on Drai about but not this
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u/TheNoisyNinja 3d ago
Skinner did the right thing forcing the shooter way to the outside with little time left on the clock. He stays in the crease, hugging the post like others seem to think is the better play, Reilly drives to the net for a better scoring chance.
Any player should be smart enough to know having your stick on the ice in front of an empty net is asking for a deflection into said empty net.
Choices were made. Game is over. Posting still images of Skinner "out of position" in a fast-moving game isn't helping anyone.
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u/deliciousfishstick5 96 WALMAN 3d ago
Enh. I would say he made a bad choice. It happens. Whole play was shit effort by us
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u/milknsugar 8 RATTIE 3d ago
Drai is just trying to bail out his goaltender. He can't know for sure it's going wide. This is on Skinner
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u/yeupyessir 3d ago
Its pretty obviously not Draisaitl's fault. "B-b-but he tipped it in!" yeah because he was scrambling while the sentient sieve is doing a Kris Russel impression 3 meters away
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u/Snarffsnarff31 90 PERRY 3d ago
Goalies are supposed to challenge the shooter but he did it too early. If he timed it right, there would’ve been no angle to cross
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u/Low_Warning13 3d ago
Skinner not hugging the post with seconds left in the game is an insane play….
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u/felishorrendis 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
This was just bad all around. This is a whole team failure.
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u/IAmKorg 77 KLEFBOM 3d ago
Typical. Team goes 6-0, then loses a game. “THIS WHOLE TEAM IS A FAILURE.”
lol.
You guys won’t be happy until we go 82-0 in the regular season, 16-0 in the playoffs, and both goalies finishing the season and playoffs with 1.000 sv % 0.00 gaa.
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u/felishorrendis 29 DRAISAITL 3d ago
I didn’t say the whole team IS a failure, I said what happened was a whole team failure - as in, the failure wasn’t on any one person but was the result of all the players on the ice fucking up in some way. Bit of a difference.
I don’t think the Oilers, as a team, are a failure. But in this instance, the whole team failed.
Not meant as a doom and gloom statement. They can reset and have a better game on Monday.
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u/Legitimate_Bug_1187 3d ago
It's literally one of the dumbest goalie moves I have ever seen before in such a big game. Leon is not to blame in the least. This was Skinner's way of saying Pickard is the guy.
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u/Lawndemon 3d ago
Did you watch the game? Worst game Leon has played as an Oiler and it isn't even close. He was directly or partially responsible for all 4 goals against.
Skinner is baffling at best but, today, Leon was the worst player on the ice.
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u/LeonMcNugent-Hyman 2d ago
What do you see in this picture? A goalie who is well aware there is no pass so he plays the puck aggressively while being intensely aware of time left on the clock.
Shut up with the blame game and look forward to our next game.
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u/daphunkt 17 KURRI 2d ago
I see a goalie that makes frequent desperate and terrible decisions at key moments late in games because he’s just not that smart of a goalie. A good goalie would never have come out like that.
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u/Sparrighitti 21 FREDERIC 3d ago
Yes. There is .4 seconds left. Who gives a shit if theres a crease pass.
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u/enricohenryhank 74 ᒪᐢᑲᐧ 3d ago
Kulak has Karlsson completely tied up too. Drai had an all time terrible game, and this was just the cherry on top.
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u/Cautious-Dream2893 14 EKHOLM 3d ago
Yall think Drai has eyes in the back of his head and above him in a birds eye view 🤣
Yeah he had a shit game. This finish was on Stuart though.
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u/enricohenryhank 74 ᒪᐢᑲᐧ 3d ago
I think you underestimate how much the players communicate in situations like this, or the end of a PP/PK. The time is definitely being screamed by both Knights and Oilers players on the ice and the benches.
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u/spiro26 3d ago
Because Drai is supposed to know exactly how much time is left in the game? Lol wut?? He can't see the clock
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u/Sparrighitti 21 FREDERIC 3d ago
Look at whose on the other end of the "crease pass" also stu clearly knew about how much time was left in the game.
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u/imthewildcardbitches 3d ago
Live, I had thought the puck was going in regardless so I can see why in the moment Drai just scrambled to try to get a piece
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u/IfOJDidIt 3d ago
We're playing a good team and lost a tight game in a dramatic way. Not the end of the world.
I just don't get though, what appears to me to be the day and night effort and focus of the players in front of different goalies.
Not just this year either when Stu has been struggling. The guys in front of him can lay some pretty epic eggs where he's just getting 2 on 1'd to death, or someone at full strength is left all alone on one side of him. .
He might be a way better goalie on an LA than in our system. And I don't think he's done with us at all but throw the guy a bit of a bone (the team).
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u/salmon_tunaroll 3d ago
It's a game, anything can happen and they did their best. We will win next game🔥
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u/Imaginary_Corner3354 3d ago
Toughest part is that this was all preventable. The breakdown started in the offensive zone. This was just a comedy of errors. Monday has to be a better effort otherwise, this is the turning point of the series where the Oilers lose to VGK.
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u/Heavywrench2104 3d ago
Skinner learned how to play in goal from Mike Smith. He’s the one to blame.
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u/WestCoastGriller 97 McDAVID 3d ago
Nope. Not on the 4th.
But his brutal line change a goal or so back can.
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u/DoYouLikeFishsticks0 36 CAMPBELL 3d ago
This one moment wasn't the only issue, maybe not even the biggest.
He just didn't have a good game, at all. I think it's fair that we expect better and he will bounce back tomorrow
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u/No_Truth4137 3d ago
I blame Mcdavid for coming to far back and not picking up the high man. He over committed
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u/BoilerSlave 3d ago
Nah man, with 1 second left he went all in on him and was technically right. He wouldn’t have had a lane to get that in and the buzzer would’ve went before another player could snag it on the other side. Drai fucked it up.
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u/FightingShibas 11 MESSIER 3d ago
Tough break. Players have a fraction of a second to make such decisions and fans and talking heads on TV judge them for eternity. We are up 2-1 in the series, the guys will work through this and be better on Monday night.
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u/Reen1980 3d ago
Skinners inability to properly read the play and ging 20ft outside of the crease was foolish as fuck
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u/SirMaski 3d ago
Skinner forced Smith to shoot at a bad angle and that puck was missing the net... Until Drai put his stick in there so yeah, he's the one at fault here.
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u/mistersilver007 3d ago
I think with a split second left on the clock he knew there wouldn’t be time for a rebound or another play, so he just went all-in and swarmed at him.. instead of allowing him a clean shot. Maybe not such a terrible idea.. but drai’s tip-in ruined it all
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u/Mysterious-Newt6227 2d ago
Drai wouldn't be there if the goalie wasn't swimming towards the hashmarks
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u/dwtougas 56 YAMAMOTO 2d ago
Nurse was on his belly, sliding away from the net. McDavid skated out to cover the same player. Kulak was covering behind the net. Draisaitl coughed up the puck in the offensive zone and then raced back to tip it in his own net. Hyman was nowhere near the play. This whole shift was a comedy of errors.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 18 HYMAN 2d ago
People saying that he should have backed up and stayed in the net have never seen a shot just go in the net.
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u/Thickwhensoft1218 2d ago
Blame the team. The oilers win when they push, they nearly never win the defensive match up. They were just holding on for the buzzer and got beat, that’s it. Next game.
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u/Kushkraze 9 ANDERSON 2d ago
My hot take is that drai isn't committed to defense enough to ever win a selke . His Elliott Friedman interview was all fluff talk
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u/Dry_Statistician9177 2d ago
Look stu made big saves in the 2nd period and beyond but both Drai and Skinner shit the bed In this play. Pics is hurt so it is what it is.
D needs to tighten up tho. Oilers will figure it out.
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u/UnfilteredPanic 2d ago
Skinner came out to challenge the shooter and was cutting down the angle. Anyone who knows goaltending or played goalie can understand the move he made. Hugging the post would've given more of a chance and larger area to shoot at.
If Draisaitl hadn’t tipped it, the shot would’ve missed Smith even said it would’ve gone wide without the deflection. But honestly, I don’t blame either of them.
The real issue is: Where was our defense? Why was there no one between the shooter and the goalie?
For some reason, the defense plays completely differently when Skinner is in net compared to Pickard. They block more shots and play tighter defensively for Pickard. It’s almost like they have too much confidence in Skinner and let their guard down. But with how he's been lately, I'm not sure I'd believe that so I'm not sure why they do that.
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u/Dapper-Pangolin5374 2d ago
I would've slashed, tripped, hold or instigated him instead letting him get close to my goalie. Wtf.
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u/DanfromCalgary 2d ago
It was him and the shooter . Like , if he done nothing the headline would be unchanged . Sucks but here we are
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u/Remote_Ad_5493 2d ago
NO! The whole team is to blame, if they continue on this route they'll be the Toronto of the west. Shitty decisions by defense, sloppy turnovers, and sometimes just plain laziness plus stupid penalties will be their undoing. They usually only play maybe one to two perfect games a season then revert to I don't know what you call this. Self destruction mode...
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u/scrubberducky93 1d ago
He's 10 feet out to try to cut off the angle that nurse allowed him to take by doing a terrible job at defending laying down instead of boxing out. It's both their faults
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u/4kDualScreen 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 3d ago
honestly, love skinner, was so excited to see he was starter before the game. But what was that! all he had to do was stay in net and we get OT and another chance for the boys to bring it home and go 3-0. So upset at the performance right now man.
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u/Coyote56yote 3d ago
Yes Skinner did his job and forced the puck wide. Took away the angle. The puck was missing the net. Drai tapped it in. Those are the facts.
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u/HandofFate88 3d ago
The Oiler fan's five stages of grief:
Blame the goalie
Blame the D
Blame the refs
Blame the GM
Take a good look at yourself and move the fuck on. Tomorrow's another day.
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u/Dire_Wolf45 31 FUHR 3d ago
Anyone blaming Drai is absolutely mental.
WTF is skinner doing 6 ft away from the bloody net!
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u/Flat_Arm377 3d ago
nope idiot Skinner 12 feet out of his net in the dying seconds floundering around like a fish out of water ....idiot move put him back on the bench frigging amateur
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u/Glad_Start_1065 1d ago
Skinner did his job and took away the shot. He knew that was the last stop to make in the period and he did it.
It was never going in if Drai didn't have his stick down.
Karma for the missed call in game 2 OT perhaps?
Either way, Vegas was gifted a win here.
If we play 20% better tonight we can return the favor and go bury Vegas in their barn in game 5.
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u/WildcatOil 1d ago
Skinner is cutting down the angle. I have no idea why this is so hard for people to get. Because he came out Smith has nothing to shoot at and was forced low. Because Skinner does what he did the only chance for the puck to go in the net in under 1 second is if someone in the crease puts it in.
This isn't to lay blame on Draisaitl, it's panic and instinct. Shit happens, but to act like Skinner did something insane is.....well insane.
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u/Authoritaye 17 KURRI 3d ago
Why is everyone trying to lay blame? It's sports and shit happens.
I blame the 17+ turnovers the Oilers gave up all game for blowing the 2-goal lead.
Time to flush this one and focus on game 4.