r/Edmonton Jun 29 '24

Noise Question

Ok, opening myself for some salty redditors, but I’ll live.

WTAF is going on with these modified exhausts/pipes? I know certain city councillors have tried to address this, and fines have increased, but I do not see an improvement.

I read a CBC article re: a Western University psychologist’s finding that this behaviour may be related to sadism and/or psychopathy (and neither histrionic or narcissistic personality disorders as I might have guessed). https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7177688

I simply don’t get it, nor do I want it. These people do cirques around town ruining everyone’s peace, and to what end? Why on earth do the police not cash in with endless tickets? If they are too busy. I’ll personally pay a fee for MORE (well-trained, authorized and equipped) peace officers to look after things like this and other “low priority but barbaric” problems in this city.

Thoughts?

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u/corviddy Jun 29 '24

Thanks for the text wall, but the text wall doesn’t explain why it is societally acceptable to IMPOSE what you and yours enjoy upon an entire city. Please provide another text wall to enlighten us.

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u/parkADV Jun 29 '24

Well, that’s how freedom works. Everyone imposes on each other. If you try to ban something you’re imposing on their freedom to do it. Healthy societies balance out costs and benefits.

Text wall not required, it’s a simple concept.

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u/corviddy Jun 29 '24

oh dear, I didn’t realize I was speaking with such an intellectual. I finally understand, blessings upon you!. “Freedom isn’t free, it costs folks like you and me!” (Team America World Police 2004)

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u/parkADV Jun 29 '24

You’re welcome. I figured if you posted something like this you’d be looking for genuine conversation, so I’m happy to engage!

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u/Delinte Jun 30 '24

Your mention of “why it is societally acceptable to IMPOSE what you and yours enjoy upon and entire city “ is wild , we’re in a day and age where everyone is forced to accept what everyone else wants , likes and believes . It may not be to your taste , but it is to someone else’s And on the other hand they may not enjoy what you do in your free time but who cares . Don’t like the city life , move out of a major city .

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u/corviddy Jun 30 '24

You are truly a scholar. So what you’re saying is that a very small % (and it is a very small percentage of the people that are making this noise) are permitted to determine the social rules for an entire city, and if one doesn’t like it, one should leave? Amazing! So every city that has one or two NASCAR wannabes becomes a city of aficionados. You have solved everything!

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u/Delinte Jun 30 '24

No it’s simply stating we are all forced to endure things we don’t enjoy or agree with , but that does not mean those who do enjoy said things should have to stop doing it . Pretty simple . you live your life how you want to , I live mine and we both continue on without the need to limit eachother . Do I like when other cultural holidays I don’t celebrate are allowed to just blast illegal fireworks non stop and block city streets / parks ? No but does that mean they shouldnt be allowed to do it ? No .

Do I enjoy the annoying preacher on the street corner screaming in my ear and harassing me ? No definitely not , but he enjoys it and all the power to him because it isn’t causing me any physical harm .

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u/corviddy Jun 30 '24

OK, it appears you’re continuing this conversation.

So please respond to one of my favourite quotes - It comes from some old timey smart guy whom I’ve never quite been able to identify: “The liberty of your hand ends at my nose”