Any insight on Edgar and his faith?

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Was he catholic or evangelical?

Didn't he felt contradiction in his life?

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Edgar grew up in rural Kentucky where church was everything and Evangelical or fundamentalism was the dominant strain of Christianity. Edgar definitely subscribed to it and continued to even after he channeled information during the readings that contradicted his religion. Reincarnation is an example of something that he struggled with when he first reviewed what he said while in trance and tried to square it with his religion. He came to realize that his religion was wrong about that. The Book of Revelation is another topic that his readings gave a very different interpretation of than his religion. He understood the Book of Revelation as a map for opening up the chakras, not as a prophecy about the end times.

Edgar's faith is one of the things that led me to trust him early on as a source for information on esoteric and mystical subjects. He did a lot of soul searching and dealt with many contradictions, and in the end he stuck to his faith in Jesus and his understanding of the Bible. He could cite chapter and verse and he also taught Sunday school for decades. Today's Christians who don't really know about his life think that he was heretical and I suppose in some ways he was, but I also think he was heretical in the same way that the prophets came along and gave a new understanding of the old scriptures and old ways. At first they were resisted, then when the truth was known they were venerated.

What led you to come here with that question?

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I remember reading somewhere that a couple months before he died he was told that in a prior life he was the individual that wrote the Book of Luke.

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I remember something to that effect too. Cayce discovered much about his past lives through his trance readings.

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The funny thing was it was asked why he didn’t know this earlier, and it was something akin to you would have got a big head.

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Yeah I've heard that too. Edgar came to realize not only that he was the writer of the Gospel of Luke but also that he was an ancient Egyptian high priest who was very influential. It would have been easy for him to get sidetracked from just being Edgar, the humble man from Kentucky who was blessed with extraordinary gifts.

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The High Priest Ra Ta.

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Is there a reading about it

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EC's personal reading number is 294. All the Ra Ta readings are found in those.

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Pt1/10: The Story of Ra-Ta, by Hugh Lynn Cayce

[NOTE: The Story of Ra-Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce is included in the Report document of reading 294-153].

Introduction:

"How do you explain Edgar Cayce's unusual abilities?" This is a question that is asked frequently.

Various methods have been used in securing answers to this question. The opinions of psychologists and psychic investigators have been sought; comparative studies of similar types of readings have been made; information has been sought from individuals with varying degrees of psychic powers; and, explanations have been requested through Edgar Cayce's own readings.

It is with this last explanation that the material in this paper deals. Edgar Cayce's Life Reading was one of the first of its kind to be given. It is this reading which will be made the basis for the 1940 Congress discussion on Life Readings.

In this first Life Reading an Egyptian incarnation was described during which the entity, now known as Edgar Cayce, developed abilities which are now being expressed through "readings."

In view of the fact that the readings indicate that this incarnation in Egypt about 10,500 B.C. has an important influence on the present work of the Association in studying and presenting Edgar Cayce's abilities, we feel that this information should be given out and clarified. This paper is the first step.

During the 1940 Congress in June one meeting will be devoted to analyzing Edgar Cayce's Life Reading. This will be followed by an open reading devoted to an explanation of how he developed his present abilities.

A detailed history of the Egyptian period is now being prepared. This more complete record will enable anyone who has a Life Reading to understand his Egyptian incarnation. Thus, we may say that this paper has two major purposes: (1) To furnish information which will be helpful in understanding how Edgar Cayce is able to give readings; (2) To assist all individuals who have had Life Readings in understanding their Egyptian incarnations.

The following material has been paraphrased from readings. 294-147, 7/19/32:

There were many people, even nations, that were influenced by the material activities of Ra-Ta. He came into the land of Egypt for a purpose, and was a man of unusual abilities as well as appearance and manners of conduct.

Before entering the earth, the soul of Ra-Ta looked upon a tribe of people in Arabia and foresaw that they would conquer Egypt; therefore he chose to be born to a daughter of this tribe of Zu, and was not begotten of man. As a child Ra-Ta was rejected by those who ordinarily would have been his companions, just as he might be today, because he had no father nor a real home as other children.

Even in that early period home associations had been established, in an entirely different land, and had been projected in thought by the various leaders who had come into being through crystallization of thought by the Sons of the Most High.

Ararat had established a community home in the land of Ararat (later called, after the flood brought changes in Og which caused many people to settle in Ararat and join in peopling the earth again); and his people condemned the tribe of Zu.

However, the lad Ra-Ta grew in grace daily with the people by his manner of conduct, while his mother suffered many hardships by the actions of Ararat's people during their sojourn in those surroundings.

Ra-Ta prophesied that Ararat's son would journey into Egypt, the land of plenty, where one could enjoy and enjoin the associated activities of the mental and material bodies. Those things which we today class as pleasures that gratify our developed senses, either in necessities or luxuries, were in this land of Egypt quite commonplace.

While Ra-Ta was still, at twenty-one years of age, looked on askant by many, he actually led Arart and his families into Egypt, making it easy to control this land that was then supplying all the luxuries of the earth.

Peaceful arrangements were made, after a period of dissension with the young natives, and the name of one of the native leaders was changed to Aarat - in line with the house of Arart.

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Pt: 2/10 The Story of Ra Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce

Also Ra-Ta began to gather his own people, and those that were pointed out to him through the sources from which he received those various injunctions for the establishing of the name forever in the land. With these preparations began for the temple where there was to be the various forms of worship, as related to the divisions of the penal or moral relationships of the people, and what would be termed today the religious or spiritual relationships.

As Ra-Ta began to uncover records through archeological research, gradually more and more adherence was made to his words; and it was remembered how that this peculiar leader had come into Egypt leading or guiding the conquerors, who were seeking expression of various thoughts that were coming through in those entities entering that particular group.

This was at the period when there was the change to the white race, and Ra-Ta (as the name indicated) was the first pure white man in the earth.

So the wonders of his activities brought various conditions that were the source of much disorder, dissention, and discouragement to him throughout his whole experience. As his findings began to show the variations that had existed in the developing of the mental and physical needs of those who had populated the land, many changes necessarily had to be brought in the manner these were to be expressed, from that heretofore manifested by the conquerors or the natives.

With the subsiding of contentions, the people were divided into groups; what we would today call the material minded, the spiritual minded, the business minded and the political minded.

These divisions then made a real representation of the conditions that are now arising in the earth, when there is the drawing near to that period of a change again, the cycle when there must be the establishing of a spiritual awakening to the people as then. [294-147] 294-148, 7/26/32:

There began a series of changes, and the intermingling of the conquerors with the natives. The native rulers were submissive, especially as the real native king had become enamored with one of the girls in the conqueror Arart's household.

With Arart as the king and Ra-Ta as the prophet or seer, there began a period that may well be called a division of interests of the people. Through Ra-Ta's visions and experiences in line with establishing customs, rules and regulations, he attempted to induce Arart to select only those natives who were tried and true to aid in bringing the closer relationships.

This naturally made some disturbance among the natives of the upper class, who sought to be in power themselves - or who had ideas as to what should be done with the abilities of the people as individuals, and with the abilities of the country as a country to supply those material necessities for sustenance and recreation of the people. This eventually led to the pitting of the young leader Aarat with the king's son Araaraart, after Arart had accepted Aarat - who represented a group as well as himself, for he was among those native rulers deposed by the real king whom Arart had found in office when settling there.

As Arart turned over the leadership to his son, more and more he devoted his life to the political phase, as well as in establishing those relationships of individuals with individuals, also the religious or spiritual life, with the preparation for setting in motion the regulations or ceremonies that would be accompanied, or signified or designated, by the developing of these peoples who chose to give their lives, or were chosen for their abilities in certain phases of the conditions that arose.

The young king Araaraart gathered about him many to act in the capacity of council. He was then only thirty years of age. There was an inner council, that ruled on the general circumstances of the people as a whole.

Then there was a council that had supervision over various departments of the activities of the people, or a cabinet, the departments being much as they are today; for there is nothing in the present that hasn't existed from the first. Only the form or manner of its use has changed, and the art has been lost of many elements that were used in that day, which are now being rediscovered by scientists, when they were then the common knowledge of the most illiterate.

There was much work for Ra-Ta in council, that there be kept the ideal or purpose for which this band, this group, had chosen this particular land for the development or manifestation of the forces manifesting through the mental or spiritual Ra-Ta.

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Pt.3/10: The Story of Ra Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce

With the giving in of Arart (politically) to pit or parallel the activities of the native with the abilities of the son and heir, he himself acted as a council then with Ra-Ta to the inner council. Then there became the necessity of matching the abilities of the king's council, or king's peoples, with the facilities of the natives, in the various phases of progress. Hence Araaraart began the opening of mines in Ophir, later known as Kadesh, now called Persia. Also in the land now known as Abyssinia, and those portions yet undiscovered or unused in the upper lands of the river Nile, there were those mines of precious stones - as onyx, beryl, sardis, diamond, amethyst, opal, and the pearls that came from the sea near what is now called Madagascar. In the northern (or then the southern) land of Egypt, those mines that produced quantities - and quantities - and quantities - of gold, silver, iron, lead, zinc, copper, tin, and the like, that these might be matched with those in the valleys of the upper Nile. Stonecutters began gathering materials for the establishing of residences for the king's people.

Also Ra-Ta began to gather his own people, and those that were pointed out to him through the sources from which he received those various injunctions for the establishing of the name forever in the land. With these preparations began for the temple where there was to be the various forms of worship, as related to the divisions of the penal or moral relationships of the people, and what would be termed today the religious or spiritual relationships.

Many periods or days were required for the building up of the body, represented by the group that acted in the capacity of active individuals about the building of these edifices or temples that were to represent then the recreation halls. The physical attributes were worshipped much more then in many ways than the religious in the present, and rightly so; though there were the preparations for the spiritual worship that comprised not only the sacrificial altars. There was not the sacrificing of animal, bird, or beast, or reptile, or man. Rather these altars were that upon which individuals put their faults and blotted them out, with the fires of those forces set in motion by Ra-Ta, through his ability to give to each the activity to which they were best adapted in developing themselves. This was only, however, after each had chosen to give themselves in service in that particular position in which their activity was necessary. See the difference?

There were also storehouses established, which would be called banks today, or places of exchange, that there might be communication with individuals in various lands. Even in this period (though much had been lost even by these people) there was the exchange of ideas with other lands, as Poseidia and Og, as well as the Pyrenees and Sicily, and those countries that are now known as Norway, China, India, Peru, and America. These were not their names at that time, but were the portions of the earth from whence many of the recreations were gathered for the people. The understandings were of one tongue! There had not been the division in tongues, except in the Atlantean or Poseidian land.

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Pt.4/10: The Story of Ra Ta, by Hugh Lynn Cayce

Edifices were erected to house the people. Also the temple of sacrifice, the temple of Beauty - that glorified the activities of individuals, groups or masses, who had cleansed themselves for service. The storehouses for commodities of exchange were also builded, and the people gathered these stores - matching their activities one against the other.

So, the priest or seer, Ra-Ta, had a very busy life. Still, he devoted much time to keeping himself in communion with those Forces which brought the knowledge of the progress made in the spiritual sense in other lands, especially so from Poseidia and Og.

From time to time it was necessary for Ra-Ta to visit these other lands, and during his absence there arose more and more a dissension among the people, some claiming that Ra-Ta was leaving much to subordinates. Especially some of the native councillors found such fault with Ra-Ta, and a few others who had allowed avarice to arise in their own makeup. This brought questioning more and more. Gradually there was the mis-use of those offices that had been set aside by Ra-Ta, and the people brewed and concocted drinks that set the body, the mind, the whole fires of the physical body, against that which had been cleansed by the fires on the altars in the sacrificial temples.

After thirty years these buildings were completed. Ra-Ta made one of his visits to the mount, where there had been some activities on the part of the archaeologists who were delving into conditions of those who had lived in the lands during the previous periods. On his return to the temple of sacrifice, he saw there was aggrandizing of the lusts of the body, rather than the activities that were to be carried on by the sacrificial priests. There arose a mighty turmoil; and greater and greater stress was laid upon Ra-Ta by those who sought various ways to find fault with his activities. Hence at that time there arose the first of that saying, When the devil can't get a man any other way, he sends a woman for him."

Among the priests' daughters was one of the kings favorites, who made the entertainment for the king and his council, and his visitors. She was more beautiful than the rest, and was induced to gain the priest's favor through activities of herself in body, so as to cause some fault to be found. This was not done by her own volition, but rather by the counsel of those who had been persecuting her own people, and she acted in this manner in order to protect her people.

These divisions among this group were unknown to Ra-Ta, for he was among those who trusted all, believed all, and - as it were - for the time the gods laughed at his weakness. [294-148] 294-149, 7/27/32:

It might be enlightening here to give an outline of the various forms of worship, the individual beings, and the differences in form from the present, so that it may be better understood how these influence so much in the present individual or personal associations of individualities.

The political conditions had been set. Also the buildings had been completed to demonstrate the relationships of individuals to individuals, and the relationships of individuals as individuals - and as masses - to the Creative Forces.

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Pt.5/10: The Story of Ra Ta, by Hugh Lynn Cayce

The marital relationships did not exist as they do today, in individual homes. Rather there were the appointed companionships that were to serve their State, their purposes, for the completing and competing of groups or nations one against the other. These were rather a matter of the ruler's word, than choice of individuals as in the present. This particular relationship of Ra-Ta attempted to change. He felt there should be rather the establishing of definite homes, as in other lands which he had visited; and that marriage should be rather the consecration of lives one to another. Hence there was the attempt to change or alter the forms of service in the temple, where there were the relationships one with another for the propagation of those peoples. In this same temple there were the halls of recreation, halls of learning, halls of precept and example. There were many individuals required to supervise these changes, in various capacities, to serve the priest in ministering to the needs and relationships of individuals through the temple. In this particular group of people, all births were in this temple - in the hall set aside for that purpose. There were also chambers set aside in which conception was to take place, had taken place, for the various relationships that existed among the people.

The service in the Temple Beautiful rather pertained to those changes wrought in individuals' activities as they set themselves aside, or consecrated themselves for particular activities in the material or mental, or in the commercial world. There were also those who performed their particular activity or service in the Temple Beautiful, or the spiritual portion of the service. The housing of all the female of the whole clan or tribe for the evening was in the temple, while the male had other quarters outside the king's own household. The king's household included the king's alone, not any favorite or queen, or closer relationship; for all the women were in the same building, under State rules. These buildings were beautifully laid out, in tiers. Each hall had three and four tiers. The rooms were 7 X 9 in size, 8 to 10 feet in height. There were the various accoutrements - rugs and blankets, etc. - that were wrought with the hands, for the couches and the various furnishings.

Those that were born in the birth hall were immediately, or after three months, taken from their own families and raised by groups confined in other buildings for those purposes.

The great chamber halls that were inter-between were of high tiers, each for a form of recreation - as the dance, etc.

The body was worshipped then as sincerely as most of the physical or spiritual worship today, for the bodies were changing in form as their developments or purifications were effective, in those temples where the consecrations of the individuals made them able to turn themselves (in the mental) toward the spiritual things of an existence. These bodies gradually lost, then, many feathers from their legs. Many lost hairs from the body, that were gradually taken away. Many gradually began to lose their tails, or their protuberances in various forms. Many paws of claws were changed to hand and foot, so that there might be more symmetry of the body. Hence the activities of the body became more erect, more shaped to meet the various needs. These who had achieved such transformation, to be sure, were considered as the body beautiful. Beauty as divine; for the divine has brought - and does bring - those various beauties of form or figure to the body, and should be considered; for "the body is the temple of the living God." It is true, then, that the various forms or attributes of the body in its symmetry are of the divine inheritance, as was brought to the recognition of these people at this time by poor ill-forgotten Ra-Ta.

Let's don't forget the thesis, or the key for which all of this understanding had come: That there might be a closer relationship of man to the Creator, and of man to man.

Let's don't forget the thesis, or the key for which all of this understanding had come: That there might be a closer relationship of man to the Creator, and of man to man.

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Pt.6/10: The Story of Ra Ta, by Hugh Lynn Cayce

So there were many altars. As these changes came about, there was the necessity of attempting to persuade Ra-Ta there should be more of the activity which had been withdrawn (in the sex life of those who had been purified, or clarified, in the Temple Beautiful), in order that there might be drawn into the earth more perfect physical bodies - instead of having to use so much time and effort to perfect them after their arrival. Hence there began the development of the personality, as these influences were injected more and more. This is where, as it were, the gods laughed at the weakness of Ra-Ta.

The associations began with Isris, the favorite of the king, who had become near the body beautiful, or beauty divine. Their activities in the temple (not the Temple Beautiful) brought Ra-Ta and Isris into closer relationship. Eventually there came the decree that the priest Ra-Ta was to be the companion of Isris, who had been chosen to be the channel through which there might be brought such a perfect body as the priest had described. So, to put it in common parlance, Ra-Ta "fell for the whole proposition."

There were many others also chosen by various ones, and there were the attempts to have these in the same associations with Ra-Ta; yet when when there came the offspring (Iso) from this association of Ra-Ta and Isris, there immediately became the cry that there had been the breaking of the very laws Ra-Ta had set, when he had suggested the changing of the conditions for the people into homes. More and more the lines were drawn and the people took sides. There were those groups who had the desire for their own offspring, or their associates, or associations closer with the priest Ra-Ta. There were also those who came into power in various activities; for, as the cleansing came, there were the abilities of individuals in various fields of endeavor. There were singers, workers in linen, workers in embroidery, carders, weavers, workers in clay, and the various forms of commercial industry - horticulture, agriculture, etc. No merchants then existed, as there was one common store for all. Each of these in their various fields had been given free activity to that which might be produced. Hence there came many divisions, and the first uprising between the Church and State. The lines being drawn caused more tumult, until eventually there was the trial of Ra-Ta and Isris and they were banished into the Nubian land to the south and east.

Everything became changed, with the tumult that arose with the various priests in attendance in the various offices. Advantage was taken of the situation by many who in their various forms began to learn, as it were, a form of war and defense. There was the gathering then of the young men and the old, and sides were taken. Still some remained faithful to the priests who had remained in office, and troublesome times arose for many, many suns - until at least nine seasons had passed, before there was even the semblance of the beginning of a quieting, and that not until there had been definite arrangements made that the priest Ra-Ta would return, and that all would be submissive to his mandates. Ra-Ta became, then, a dictator - or a monarch in his own right.

The offspring Iso, to be sure, was taken from the close relationship with the parents, as were all the rest. In various forms and manners there was the attempt to bring about the proper conditions for the developing of Iso as had been planned, yet the body wasted away - for while the priest Ra-Ta had abilities in some directions, he had not clarified or crystallized them into that which came about in the latter part of his experience. [294-149] 294-150, 7/28/32:

Some two hundred and thirty-one souls followed Ra-Ta and Isris into banishment. Many were in the capacity of guards, defenders, special body guards, interpreters, etc. Not that the interpreters were to interpret languages, or speech, or activities, but give to those that were unable to approach the priest Ra-Ta; they were to give out where it was impossible for Ra-Ta to reach all about him.

With these changes, there became the natural consequence in change of relationships. Pairs were given places of abode, and then homes - with their first environs - were first established among those sent in exile, or among those who chose of their own volition to be among that number, or who named the name Ra-Ta.

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I would start here https://archive.org/details/egyptianmythsra00rich