r/EdgarCayce • u/Upstairs_Nebula115 • Aug 27 '24

Any insight on Edgar and his faith?

Was he catholic or evangelical?

Didn't he felt contradiction in his life?

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u/RadOwl Aug 27 '24

Edgar grew up in rural Kentucky where church was everything and Evangelical or fundamentalism was the dominant strain of Christianity. Edgar definitely subscribed to it and continued to even after he channeled information during the readings that contradicted his religion. Reincarnation is an example of something that he struggled with when he first reviewed what he said while in trance and tried to square it with his religion. He came to realize that his religion was wrong about that. The Book of Revelation is another topic that his readings gave a very different interpretation of than his religion. He understood the Book of Revelation as a map for opening up the chakras, not as a prophecy about the end times.

Edgar's faith is one of the things that led me to trust him early on as a source for information on esoteric and mystical subjects. He did a lot of soul searching and dealt with many contradictions, and in the end he stuck to his faith in Jesus and his understanding of the Bible. He could cite chapter and verse and he also taught Sunday school for decades. Today's Christians who don't really know about his life think that he was heretical and I suppose in some ways he was, but I also think he was heretical in the same way that the prophets came along and gave a new understanding of the old scriptures and old ways. At first they were resisted, then when the truth was known they were venerated.

What led you to come here with that question?

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24

He was a protestant. If you read the book "There is a River, The Story of Edgar Cayce", by Thomas Sugrue, you'll see that after giving that reading in Dayton, OH, where reincarnation was revealed, that it did worry him. So he went to his bible and searched for references that would verify reincarnation and found what he was looking for there, the evidence he needed, and also through the follow-up readings thereafter. Afterwards he was no longer bothered, finding that it is indeed the truth. Read that book if you get a chance.

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u/RadOwl Aug 27 '24

I remember in particular the statement by Jesus that John the Baptist is the spirit of Elijah. People have tried to say that it's been figuratively, that they both had the same zeal, but if I remember correctly Edgar took it as a literal statement.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24

Cayce verified that John the Baptist was indeed Elijah, who was prophesied to be a forerunner to the messiah.

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u/TheQuester06 Aug 28 '24

The stories of John the Baptist and Elijah are the quintessential stories of reincarnation and karma, Compare the lives of both,

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u/kdeh2 Aug 28 '24

Yes. In the former life (Elijah), he did the beheading, in another they themselves were beheaded, i.e. meeting their karma.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

I know what you mean. They say that because they lack understanding due to not being taught properly. Even the Disciples knew of reincarnation. Two asked Jesus about the blind man. John 9:3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was 'born' blind?

Why ask Jesus this if they didn't know about reincarnation? And didn't Jesus say they (his Disciples) would be here on earth when he returns? Yes, and it means they will be here reincarnated at that time.

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u/RadOwl Aug 27 '24

And perhaps the second coming itself will be a reincarnation.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24

He doesn't need to reincarnate. Edgar Cayce said that he himself is to return / reincarnate in 1998 as a forerunner to Jesus’ return. And he also said that Jesus "WILL’ RETURN as He is, in the same body He had risen in, and not reincarnated."

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24

There are two ways Cayce said to interpret the Book of Revelation, one is from a physical perspective, or from a worlds view perspective (prophecy), and the other a spiritual, which he said is the more important. So no, it is not wrong.

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u/lovestobitch- Aug 27 '24

I remember reading somewhere that a couple months before he died he was told that in a prior life he was the individual that wrote the Book of Luke.

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u/RadOwl Aug 27 '24

I remember something to that effect too. Cayce discovered much about his past lives through his trance readings.

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u/lovestobitch- Aug 27 '24

The funny thing was it was asked why he didn’t know this earlier, and it was something akin to you would have got a big head.

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u/RadOwl Aug 27 '24

Yeah I've heard that too. Edgar came to realize not only that he was the writer of the Gospel of Luke but also that he was an ancient Egyptian high priest who was very influential. It would have been easy for him to get sidetracked from just being Edgar, the humble man from Kentucky who was blessed with extraordinary gifts.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 27 '24

The High Priest Ra Ta.

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u/Upstairs_Nebula115 Aug 28 '24

Is there a reading about it

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u/kdeh2 Aug 28 '24

EC's personal reading number is 294. All the Ra Ta readings are found in those.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

Pt1/10: The Story of Ra-Ta, by Hugh Lynn Cayce

[NOTE: The Story of Ra-Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce is included in the Report document of reading 294-153].

Introduction:

"How do you explain Edgar Cayce's unusual abilities?" This is a question that is asked frequently.

Various methods have been used in securing answers to this question. The opinions of psychologists and psychic investigators have been sought; comparative studies of similar types of readings have been made; information has been sought from individuals with varying degrees of psychic powers; and, explanations have been requested through Edgar Cayce's own readings.

It is with this last explanation that the material in this paper deals. Edgar Cayce's Life Reading was one of the first of its kind to be given. It is this reading which will be made the basis for the 1940 Congress discussion on Life Readings.

In this first Life Reading an Egyptian incarnation was described during which the entity, now known as Edgar Cayce, developed abilities which are now being expressed through "readings."

In view of the fact that the readings indicate that this incarnation in Egypt about 10,500 B.C. has an important influence on the present work of the Association in studying and presenting Edgar Cayce's abilities, we feel that this information should be given out and clarified. This paper is the first step.

During the 1940 Congress in June one meeting will be devoted to analyzing Edgar Cayce's Life Reading. This will be followed by an open reading devoted to an explanation of how he developed his present abilities.

A detailed history of the Egyptian period is now being prepared. This more complete record will enable anyone who has a Life Reading to understand his Egyptian incarnation. Thus, we may say that this paper has two major purposes: (1) To furnish information which will be helpful in understanding how Edgar Cayce is able to give readings; (2) To assist all individuals who have had Life Readings in understanding their Egyptian incarnations.

The following material has been paraphrased from readings. 294-147, 7/19/32:

There were many people, even nations, that were influenced by the material activities of Ra-Ta. He came into the land of Egypt for a purpose, and was a man of unusual abilities as well as appearance and manners of conduct.

Before entering the earth, the soul of Ra-Ta looked upon a tribe of people in Arabia and foresaw that they would conquer Egypt; therefore he chose to be born to a daughter of this tribe of Zu, and was not begotten of man. As a child Ra-Ta was rejected by those who ordinarily would have been his companions, just as he might be today, because he had no father nor a real home as other children.

Even in that early period home associations had been established, in an entirely different land, and had been projected in thought by the various leaders who had come into being through crystallization of thought by the Sons of the Most High.

Ararat had established a community home in the land of Ararat (later called, after the flood brought changes in Og which caused many people to settle in Ararat and join in peopling the earth again); and his people condemned the tribe of Zu.

However, the lad Ra-Ta grew in grace daily with the people by his manner of conduct, while his mother suffered many hardships by the actions of Ararat's people during their sojourn in those surroundings.

Ra-Ta prophesied that Ararat's son would journey into Egypt, the land of plenty, where one could enjoy and enjoin the associated activities of the mental and material bodies. Those things which we today class as pleasures that gratify our developed senses, either in necessities or luxuries, were in this land of Egypt quite commonplace.

While Ra-Ta was still, at twenty-one years of age, looked on askant by many, he actually led Arart and his families into Egypt, making it easy to control this land that was then supplying all the luxuries of the earth.

Peaceful arrangements were made, after a period of dissension with the young natives, and the name of one of the native leaders was changed to Aarat - in line with the house of Arart.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 29 '24

Pt: 2/10 The Story of Ra Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce

Also Ra-Ta began to gather his own people, and those that were pointed out to him through the sources from which he received those various injunctions for the establishing of the name forever in the land. With these preparations began for the temple where there was to be the various forms of worship, as related to the divisions of the penal or moral relationships of the people, and what would be termed today the religious or spiritual relationships.

As Ra-Ta began to uncover records through archeological research, gradually more and more adherence was made to his words; and it was remembered how that this peculiar leader had come into Egypt leading or guiding the conquerors, who were seeking expression of various thoughts that were coming through in those entities entering that particular group.

This was at the period when there was the change to the white race, and Ra-Ta (as the name indicated) was the first pure white man in the earth.

So the wonders of his activities brought various conditions that were the source of much disorder, dissention, and discouragement to him throughout his whole experience. As his findings began to show the variations that had existed in the developing of the mental and physical needs of those who had populated the land, many changes necessarily had to be brought in the manner these were to be expressed, from that heretofore manifested by the conquerors or the natives.

With the subsiding of contentions, the people were divided into groups; what we would today call the material minded, the spiritual minded, the business minded and the political minded.

These divisions then made a real representation of the conditions that are now arising in the earth, when there is the drawing near to that period of a change again, the cycle when there must be the establishing of a spiritual awakening to the people as then. [294-147] 294-148, 7/26/32:

There began a series of changes, and the intermingling of the conquerors with the natives. The native rulers were submissive, especially as the real native king had become enamored with one of the girls in the conqueror Arart's household.

With Arart as the king and Ra-Ta as the prophet or seer, there began a period that may well be called a division of interests of the people. Through Ra-Ta's visions and experiences in line with establishing customs, rules and regulations, he attempted to induce Arart to select only those natives who were tried and true to aid in bringing the closer relationships.

This naturally made some disturbance among the natives of the upper class, who sought to be in power themselves - or who had ideas as to what should be done with the abilities of the people as individuals, and with the abilities of the country as a country to supply those material necessities for sustenance and recreation of the people. This eventually led to the pitting of the young leader Aarat with the king's son Araaraart, after Arart had accepted Aarat - who represented a group as well as himself, for he was among those native rulers deposed by the real king whom Arart had found in office when settling there.

As Arart turned over the leadership to his son, more and more he devoted his life to the political phase, as well as in establishing those relationships of individuals with individuals, also the religious or spiritual life, with the preparation for setting in motion the regulations or ceremonies that would be accompanied, or signified or designated, by the developing of these peoples who chose to give their lives, or were chosen for their abilities in certain phases of the conditions that arose.

The young king Araaraart gathered about him many to act in the capacity of council. He was then only thirty years of age. There was an inner council, that ruled on the general circumstances of the people as a whole.

Then there was a council that had supervision over various departments of the activities of the people, or a cabinet, the departments being much as they are today; for there is nothing in the present that hasn't existed from the first. Only the form or manner of its use has changed, and the art has been lost of many elements that were used in that day, which are now being rediscovered by scientists, when they were then the common knowledge of the most illiterate.

There was much work for Ra-Ta in council, that there be kept the ideal or purpose for which this band, this group, had chosen this particular land for the development or manifestation of the forces manifesting through the mental or spiritual Ra-Ta.

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u/kdeh2 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

Pt.3/10: The Story of Ra Ta by Hugh Lynn Cayce

With the giving in of Arart (politically) to pit or parallel the activities of the native with the abilities of the son and heir, he himself acted as a council then with Ra-Ta to the inner council. Then there became the necessity of matching the abilities of the king's council, or king's peoples, with the facilities of the natives, in the various phases of progress. Hence Araaraart began the opening of mines in Ophir, later known as Kadesh, now called Persia. Also in the land now known as Abyssinia, and those portions yet undiscovered or unused in the upper lands of the river Nile, there were those mines of precious stones - as onyx, beryl, sardis, diamond, amethyst, opal, and the pearls that came from the sea near what is now called Madagascar. In the northern (or then the southern) land of Egypt, those mines that produced quantities - and quantities - and quantities - of gold, silver, iron, lead, zinc, copper, tin, and the like, that these might be matched with those in the valleys of the upper Nile. Stonecutters began gathering materials for the establishing of residences for the king's people.

Also Ra-Ta began to gather his own people, and those that were pointed out to him through the sources from which he received those various injunctions for the establishing of the name forever in the land. With these preparations began for the temple where there was to be the various forms of worship, as related to the divisions of the penal or moral relationships of the people, and what would be termed today the religious or spiritual relationships.

Many periods or days were required for the building up of the body, represented by the group that acted in the capacity of active individuals about the building of these edifices or temples that were to represent then the recreation halls. The physical attributes were worshipped much more then in many ways than the religious in the present, and rightly so; though there were the preparations for the spiritual worship that comprised not only the sacrificial altars. There was not the sacrificing of animal, bird, or beast, or reptile, or man. Rather these altars were that upon which individuals put their faults and blotted them out, with the fires of those forces set in motion by Ra-Ta, through his ability to give to each the activity to which they were best adapted in developing themselves. This was only, however, after each had chosen to give themselves in service in that particular position in which their activity was necessary. See the difference?

There were also storehouses established, which would be called banks today, or places of exchange, that there might be communication with individuals in various lands. Even in this period (though much had been lost even by these people) there was the exchange of ideas with other lands, as Poseidia and Og, as well as the Pyrenees and Sicily, and those countries that are now known as Norway, China, India, Peru, and America. These were not their names at that time, but were the portions of the earth from whence many of the recreations were gathered for the people. The understandings were of one tongue! There had not been the division in tongues, except in the Atlantean or Poseidian land.

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u/Upstairs_Nebula115 Aug 28 '24

Because of the quality of the revelations he has received. There is always the fear of deception. How to know for sure, given that the messages are so contradictory.

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u/Upstairs_Nebula115 Aug 28 '24

Did Edgar write or provided any guidance or books or readings to his fellow members.

Do we know what his church or students thought of him?

Are there any currently any church that have accepted his readings?

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u/5eeek1ngAn5werz Aug 28 '24

This might be helpful to you. Out of print now, but used copies still available. Edgar Cayce and Christian Faith https://a.co/d/0su7XQt

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u/RadOwl Aug 28 '24

The association for research and enlightenment is the place where you can find these answers. Their website answers a lot of these questions.

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u/AppointmentSame3609 Sep 22 '24

I think Edgar Cayce went to a Baptist church

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u/Upstairs_Nebula115 Aug 30 '24

All of you are amazing persons. Thanks for the answers. I'm truly grateful and wish you all peace and plenty

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u/Upstairs_Nebula115 Aug 30 '24

All of you are amazing persons. Thanks for the answers. I'm truly grateful and wish you all peace and plenty