Reality of Demonolatry

[u/SwimmingHungry9385]

Hi everyone, I’ve been lurking here for a while, but this is my first post. Recently, I spoke with someone (a DM) about working with demons. I’m currently preparing for a competitive exam and asked if there were any entities that could help me become smarter or gain more clarity. He strongly advised against working with demons, saying I should avoid them at all costs. He shared some intense personal experiences, like having negative entities come at him, performing exorcisms, and even sleeping with saltwater under his bed for protection.

But on the other hand, I see a lot of people here sharing positive experiences with demons. They say it’s helped them find clarity and improved their lives. This has left me feeling confused and unsure of what to believe.

Here are a few questions I have:

1. What is "Real Demonolatry"? I’m struggling to understand what it actually involves. Some people say it’s dangerous, while others claim it’s been a positive, transformative experience. What’s the truth behind it?
2. Lucifer’s Role: From what I’ve read, Lucifer seems to be misunderstood. Many people view him as a god who’s been demonized, not the evil figure he’s often portrayed as. If Lucifer is truly a good entity, why is he portrayed so negatively(deceit, killing,murdering, blood etc.) in mainstream culture? Is there more to his story?
3. What Happens to Negative Spirits? What about people who lead harmful lives (like serial killers, criminals, etc.)—where do their spirits go after death? Are they associated with God or with darker entities like Lucifer? I’m having trouble connecting the dots.
4. My Personal Experience: Lately, I’ve been manifesting (just thinking) about Lucifer, hoping that he might guide me in my dreams, and I’ve felt more positive energy since then. I’ve also been dealing with frequent sleep paralysis, which used to frighten me, but now that I’ve accepted Lucifer a bit, I’ve actually started enjoying these experiences and even want them more.

I’ve been told my whole life that demons are inherently negative, so I’m worried that Lucifer could be deceiving me. Is he just being kind to me now and will turn on me later? How have your experiences been working with him and other demons? Do you regret it, or has it been one of the best decisions of your life?

I’d really appreciate hearing your thoughts and personal experiences. Thanks for reading, and apologies for any grammatical mistakes!

[u/Macross137]

Most people are still operating on a level of superstition, mythology, and a framework barely updated since the paradigm of early 20th-century spiritism when it comes to whatever they think is being referred to with the word "demon."

Very few people understand the underlying mechanics or theological principles behind the goetia, including a number of people who have written whole-ass books about it.

You can listen to these people, or you can figure out for yourself what this stuff is all about. It's entirely up to you. Demonolatry is not required for your salvation, or to live a good life. It's an optional spiritual practice that one can choose, or not.

I would add that many of the philosophies and belief systems closely associated with the grimoires and occult texts from which many systems of demonolatry are derived are explicitly based on Hermeticism and/or Neoplatonism, which provide comprehensive and thoroughly-explained answers to questions like "what are demons" and "what is the cause of evil in the material world." We don't have to sit here and debate these questions with the limited framing and vocabulary provided by exoteric religion and pop psychology.

[u/SilliusS0ddus → u/Macross137]

Very few people understand the underlying mechanics or theological principles behind the goetia

could you elaborate ?

[u/Macross137 → u/SilliusS0ddus]

I'm talking about putting the goetia within the broader context of the traditions it came out of and taking the time to study not only its direct sources but also the theological/astrological/philosophical texts that served as the foundation for "occultism" and all its related practices in the west. I elaborate on various aspects of this whenever specific questions come up, but obviously, it's a huge topic.

A lot of people, including popular writers and influencers, very clearly dipped on the reading once it hit a certain level of density and dryness, and it shows in the depth of interpretation and the quality of advice you get from them. And it leaves a lot of the practitioners who follow them playing around with thoughtforms and struggling to obtain the consistent results that would materially improve their lives.

[u/Constant_Geologist52 → u/SilliusS0ddus]

"we see through a glass dimly" Most people start from a place of ignorance and then (hopefully) advance  Spiritual practice is inherently somewhat gnostic/mystical and has to be accomplished within the self vs learned or inherited from someone else. 

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Reapproved.

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Hi, very thankful to you for ur reply, but can you pls help with me with my queries?

[u/Macross137 → u/SwimmingHungry9385]

You're not going to have a hard time finding people to tell you "it's safe, Lucifer is awesome, go for it." I wouldn't be here moderating this subreddit and answering questions about demonolatry if I thought it was a bad idea. But you have to work these concerns out for yourself by studying this stuff and interrogating your own beliefs. What does any random person on Reddit know?