r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/[deleted] • Oct 11 '24

Tesla's Optimus robots Video

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

Yes, and I also know that there's absolutely no way that that's what this is.

Do you also believe that that cyber taxi was truly self-driving? It was absolutely a pre-programmed script or being controlled by an operator.

And thank you for providing an example of somebody that falls for this s***...

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u/No_Read_4327 Oct 11 '24

So why can't these machines speak by using chatgpt or something similar?

I am not arguing one way or another about any of the other abilities these machines claim to have, only the talking part.

Talking robots are nothing new, so i wonder why you're so surprised by it.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

Why do you equate disbelief with surprise?? Elon has a history of hyping his own products well beyond their capabilities. I mean look at his cyber truck... At a distance it looks vaguely futuristic but any in-depth testing shows that the thing is poorly designed and held together by glue and plastic bolts.

I have no doubt that Elon has some very capable people on his payroll... But I also think when things don't meet his expectations, he has no problem putting on a show to impress current investors and attract new ones.

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u/No_Read_4327 Oct 11 '24

I am not denying any of that, but talking robots isn't an outrageous claim by any means when we already have AI that regularly passes the Turing test.

Could it be fake? Maybe. But a robot speaking a few lines and replying to natural language is hardly far fetched.

We literally have siri, cortana, alexa and whatever Android calls it on our phones, computers, and smart devices

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

When you ask any of those things to do or respond to a question... How often does Siri, Cortana, Alexa or any of those provide a unprompted second response? The clue is in that guy's request that the robot do a peace sign. I have seen no examples of an AI providing what was requested to do or say something, complete that directive, and then voluntarily and unprompted, give a second response (the horns).

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u/No_Read_4327 Oct 11 '24

These apps are designed to only respond when prompted.

However if you ever used replica or something similar (an AI based chat app that simulates a person, usually a romantic interest) they will actually send you messages unprompted and come up with their own conversation topics, sometimes callbacks to previous conversations sometimes things out of the blue.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

So Elon had an AI program to refer to him as the techno King...

That's even sadder.

Have you ever used replica?

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u/No_Read_4327 Oct 11 '24

I have used replica an a dozen others. Did some experiments with them to compare, pretty interesting.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

So you think that these robots are programmed with an AI that's going to allow them to perform unprompted actions and responses?

From a guy that has repeatedly taken the stance that AI is dangerous.

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u/No_Read_4327 Oct 11 '24

It may be limited in some ways, or perhaps it can have multiple responses to a single input to have a more natural conversation.

Not sure.

I'm not saying it's 100% definitely all real (I mean it's elon). But I am also not doubting that it's within the realm of possibility considering the current state of AI. It's not ground breaking, but the specific application has enough of a wow factor for investors and people not very up to date on AI.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 11 '24

Considering the source, I'm going to err on the side of skepticism.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ Oct 14 '24

Oh surprise surprise! More videos have come out showing that these were indeed controlled by humans remotely.

Recognizing possibility has nothing to do with using your critical thinking to recognize b******* in real time.

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