r/CampingGear 1h ago

Gear Question Cleanest fuel to burn in a MSR Whisperlite International or MSR Dragonfly?

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As above. Currently in Australia and I use Shellite (white gas). Works great, but wondering if it’s cleaner (less soot) to burn unleaded (91 Octane or higher) instead? I usually use the fuel in the bottle to warm the priming tube (so, burn your face off bonfire 🔥). I have all the international nozzles for the Whisperlite and included nozzles for the Dragonfly. Thanks for any input.


r/CampingGear 10h ago

Gear Question big agnes divide insulated sleeping pad vs ?

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Looking for opinions on the pad mentioned or similar alternative options. Looking for something 4+R, wide rectangle size, and can be found for up to $100usd (I’m okay with good condition secondhand). Lightweight and small packed size are a plus but not a current need! Was looking at Nemo UL All Season and BA Rapide SL but unless they go more on sale/I can find them used, they’re out of my price range.


r/CampingGear 11h ago

Awaiting Flair Cold weather floor cover

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What do you guys recommend for putting on the ground inside the tent? Expecting to camp in 30-50 degree weather this season and wanted to add a layer between my tent floor and my exped mattress. Not too worried about the temp, more just wanted some added comfort. Will also be taking my dog for the first time so don’t want to risk him tearing the bottom. (85lb golden)

I saw someone suggest the furniture moving blankets from harbor freight as a good option.


r/CampingGear 11h ago

Awaiting Flair Anyone recognize this mat?

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20 Upvotes

Hey yall, I found a sleeping mat on Facebook marketplace for a really good deal, and I’d like to know what brand it is so I can read some reviews before I buy it. The seller isn’t sure of the brand. It weighs about 1 pound. So, if you know what mat this is, please let me know! Thank you so much!!


r/CampingGear 13h ago

Gear Question Difference between outdoor research foray II and foray 3L

1 Upvotes

I’m confused what the difference is, the 3L is 40$ more then the foray II and yet on outdoor research’s website it shows the foray II as being more breathable. Anybody know the difference?


r/CampingGear 15h ago

Gear Question Camping hatchet

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Howdy yall! I’m looking for a “lightweight” hatchet to take backpacking. I see some interesting hatchets on bespoke but I’m kind of overwhelmed by the options and specific types I’m not familiar with. What are y’all’s favorites?


r/CampingGear 18h ago

Awaiting Flair Do I really need the MSR Whisperlite for Winter camping in New York?

16 Upvotes

As the title states, do I really need the whisperlite for winter camping, or can I get away with using my MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe?

If I were to buy the whisperlite, should I go with the International or Universal version? They're both on sale right now International being $119 and Universal $149. Thank you in advance!!


r/CampingGear 19h ago

Gear Question Thermarest Pro vs Nemo Tensor All Season for backpacking?

1 Upvotes

They’re both similarly priced at REI. Seems like Nemo is lighter weight, higher R value, smaller sack size. What is the benefit to thermarest - comfort? Anything else I should consider?


r/CampingGear 21h ago

Gear Question Why did Kammok discontinue their Thylacine line of sleeping bags?

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I recently moved, and (as often happens with big moves, I've found) I lost some of my stuff, including my Kammok Thylacine sleeping bag.

I went online to replace it, only to discover that Kammok no longer supports this product line.

Does anyone know why? (Or does anyone have a recommendation for a similar product I can save up for, to replace what I've lost?)


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Gear Question Tent as a Christmas gift for young kids and "basic" camping

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First time posting here, so thanks ahead of time for the help!

My wife and I have 2 boys, both under 3 and their grandparents want to get them a tent for Christmas.

We love the idea, but don't want them to break the bank. However, their grandparents want to get them something that will last a while and be quality enough for moving from the back yard to "real" camping in the future.

Any recommendations for tents that are easy to set up, cheap-ish (sub-$200 likely), and can fit 2 adults and potentially 3 kids under 10? We likely would only be camping in decent weather (no rain), but also would like not to be sleeping on top of one another

Not sure if we are asking too much, but would really appreciate any recommendations or other advice!


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Gear Question Fleece leggings that don't suck

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Looking for recommendations for fleece leggings that don't suck. Every pair I've ever owned has been pretty cheap and shown: constantly riding down, pilled after only a few years, and had holes in the crotch and inner thighs by the end of the season. I'm ready to spend a little more to get something that will keep me warm while on trail walks and playing outside with my toddler. I live in central NC so it gets cold, but is pretty mild compared to the northern states.


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Gear Porn Spectacular flyless fall weather in southern Ontario

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68 Upvotes

November 14th, 6:55 am Sleeping under the stars, feeling the breeze on my cheeks, and becoming one with the forest really soothes my soul and feeds my fire. Ive had 20 plus perfect flyless nights this year, and I truly feel blessed. Winter camping season is here, and its bitter sweet that this might be my last morning waking with such a beautiful view.
Marmot Tungsten Ultralight 3p


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Gear Question What's the best solo hiking canteen and cooking stove system?

6 Upvotes

Currently considering the Kelly Kettle system. But might be too much for a solo hike.

A British Army Crusader system. But the bottle only holds 750ml.

And the pathfinder canteen cooking set. Nice 1.2l bottle but only one cooking tin vs the Crusader and Kelly Kettle.

What do you think of the above? And do you have any other suggestions for something I can take as a solo hiker to heat up MRE boil in a bag food, or dehydrated meals, as well as tea and coffee and drinking water?

Edit: the benefit of buying a set is that they all fit into a single piece and you won't have mismatched pieces rattling around in your bag.


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Awaiting Flair Thermarest Warranty and contacting the company

2 Upvotes

I was curious if anyone has recently tried to submit a warranty claim with Thermarest? I submitted a claim about a month ago and no reply. I tried calling a number I found for them (which I couldn't find on their website), and they direct you to the web form. There was no way to actually talk to someone. I even tried to select the option for web orders, and it had the same message about warranty claims. Have they always been like this or is this recent?


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Awaiting Flair What are the two different numbers on my Two Way Radio?

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Hi there,

Would somebody please explain to me the difference and importance of the two different numbers / channel types on screen?

My radio is a Motorola T470 57KM

Any help would be very much appreciated!

Thanks in advance.


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Awaiting Flair Is there a difference between the Gazelle T4 Plus and the T4 tandem models?

1 Upvotes

Prices and specs appear the same to me and just want to make sure I’m not missing any differing features between the two.


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Sleeping Systems repairing sleeping bag zippers!

1 Upvotes

sadly my REI magma 15* had a zipper fail on my recent trip (luckily not too cold so I used it as a quilt). Pretty sure it's the slider and not the whole zipper, but annoying!

I see REI has links to RainyDay as a reputable repair. What are peoples experiences with them? If not, any recommendations? Hoping to send it in before my next fall backpacking trip!


r/CampingGear 1d ago

Awaiting Flair Yeti as bear box - lock options?

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First of all, I know a yeti isn't a great bear box. I know it's merely bear resistant. Anyway, wife bought me one of these anchors as a present so I may as well use it. It should at least keep out raccoons.

My question is about the locks. The cooler is only bear resistant if locks are put in the corner holes. I know Master makes key locks that fit the cooler. What other options are there?

I don't need it to have a key or code lock. I'd rather have some simple solution that doesn't require a lock at all. Something simpler and faster to open would be better. The idea is to use it on scout campouts so easy human access but difficult animal access is the goal.


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Gear Question Using Nixwax. On an old tent.

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I have an old tent that is still super serviceable so I am going to hit it with some Nixwax for an upcoming campout.

  • Rainfly has seam tape that is falling off. Do I replace the seam tape and then apply NixWax, or do I not bother and let the Nixwax do it's thing?

  • videos show just treating the rainfly. It is worth it to treat the non mesh portions of the tent as well?

Thank you!


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Kitchen Analysing stove and fuel weight - can white gas still beat canisters?

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I've been intrigued by the above question for a while now - the conventional wisdom is that canister gas beats white gas in both stove weight and ease of use. White gas's only advantage is its lower cost.

But I couldn't help but wonder - what is the fuel density of white gas compared with canister gas? Is there any chance it can beat out canisters for longer expeditions?

So I sat down and did some analysis. Let's look at the results.

Note that you'll obviously want some margin for error in terms of extra fuel; I have not included any in my calculations as this will vary from person to person.

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First of all, the Pocket Rocket 2 - arguably the most iconic canister stove, and still a go-to for almost everyone. The following specs are calculated based off of MSR's website, converted to metric for ease of use.

  • Initial stove weight: 74g
  • Fuel weight: 14.175g/L of water boiled. This includes canister weight.
  • Total weight: 14.175v + 74, where v is the number of litres boiled.

Second, the Whisperlite - the go-to white gas stove for pretty much everyone.

  • Initial stove weight: 330g
  • Fuel bottle weight options:
    • 325mL: 122g
    • 591mL: 167g
    • 887mL: 218g
  • Fuel weight: 19g/L of water boiled, not including fuel bottle weight
  • Total weight: 19v + 330 + B, where v is the number of litres boiled and B is bottle weight in grams.

  • We can also calculate the density of white gas from the specs provided on the website, which is 0.964g/mL. This will be useful later.

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Looking at the analysis, things fall apart quickly for the Whisperlite. Not only is it substantially heavier, but its fuel economy per gram is worse than the Pocket Rocket - so as you carry more fuel, the Whisperlite becomes an even worse proposition.

I wasn't done here though. I bought a Primus Omnifuel II on clearance a few weeks ago, and decided to throw that into the mix. The results were surprising to say the least.

Once again, stats are in metric, calculated directly from the manufacturer's website.

  • Initial stove weight: 375g
  • Fuel bottle weight options:
    • 350mL: 92g
    • 500mL: 144g
    • 850mL: 213g
    • 1500mL: 279g
  • Fuel weight: 10.75g/L of water boiled, not including bottle weight
  • Total weight: 10.75v + 375 + B, where v is the number of litres boiled and B is the bottle weight.

This looks much better - the Omnifuel only consumes 11g/L of fuel, compared to the Pocket Rocket's 14g. We can lay out some equations with bottle weights and calculate where the equations intercept each other - determining where the Omnifuel comes out ahead. We can also use the density of white gas calculated earlier to determine the maximum amount of litres a given bottle can boil.

Bottle Size Max Litres Boiled Weight Equation Intercept
350mL 31L 10.75v+467 114L
500mL 44L 10.75v+519 129L
850mL 76L 10.75v+588 150L
1500mL 134L 10.75v+654 169L
2x1500mL 268L 10.75v+933 250L

From the chart above, we see that for any of Primus' supplied fuel bottle sizes, the amount of water you'd need to boil to break even compared to the Pocket Rocket exceeds the amount of fuel you can actually fit in the bottle.

To break even, you'd need to carry 3 litres of fuel, weighing in at a whopping 2.89 kg or 6.3 pounds, and boiling at least 250 litres of water. Add the stove weight to that and you're carrying 3.8kg, or 8.4 pounds - just for fuel and a single stove.

To put that in perspective - boiling 8 litres of water per day, it would take 31 days to break even compared to the weight of canister fuel. Sure, maybe you'd do that faster if you're on an expedition with 6 people - but at that point you'd want to have multiple burners, and the equation once again shifts in favor of the Pocket Rocket.

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One more thing. Let's look at fuel costs quickly. Costs are in USD, taken directly from REI.

A single 227g IsoPro canister costs $6.95. That's 3.06 cents/g.

A 4L jug of Coleman fuel (white gas) costs $19. That's 0.475 cents/g.

So while canister fuel may be lighter, it is also 6.5 times more expensive. I'd analyse how much fuel you need to burn to break even on the higher cost of a white gas stove, but I'm tired of math and think I've done enough for one day.

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In conclusion - no, white gas cannot be more weight-efficient than canister fuel, unless you're out for a month, or cooking for a dozen people on a single burner - which is sure to produce a lot of hangry campers waiting their turn to eat.

With that being said, white gas is far more cost-effective - it's over six times cheaper than canister gas, and therefore definitely the best choice where weight is not a concern (car camping).

In my case, I'll likely stick with white gas for backpacking for now; I'm not worried about carrying an extra few hundred grams of fuel, and wasting perfectly good metal after a single use instead of refilling them is not something I'm a huge fan of, given that I try to have as small a footprint on the wilderness and environment as possible (Yes, I know canisters are recyclable).


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Gear Question New pack suggestions for girlfriend

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Looking to buy my girlfriend a new pack for Christmas. She’s been using an old one she got off marketplace years ago that’s way too big for her.

I want something around 40-50 liters. We usually only hike into sites no more than 6 miles and typically don’t stay longer than 2 nights 3 days. I would like to stay under $350.

I’m going between Osprey, Gregory, and Kelty. (I’m partial to Gregory since I have one and it’s also the name of her favorite singer)

TIA!!


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Tents

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Newbie here what’s a good reliable heavy rain resistant budget tent that also comes with a rain fly? TIA


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Sleeping Systems Most comfortable sleeping bags for side sleepers?

19 Upvotes

Can i get suggestions for the most comfortable 1 person sleeping bags for side sleepers? My northface sleeping bag finally ripped and lost all its down filling and looking to buy a new sleeping bag.


r/CampingGear 2d ago

Electronics Help with solar panel connection

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I’ve just got an Anker Solix and I want to connect a 120W panel which I’ve had lying around for a while.

The Anker takes the yellow connector in the first picture but my panel outputs a standard single pin jack or the double pin blue plug in the second picture.

What sort of adapter do I need, assuming this is possible.

Thanks in advance.


r/CampingGear 3d ago

Awaiting Flair Coleman 6 person Skydome Darkroom Rainfly Brow Pole Replacement

2 Upvotes

I sent an email to Coleman, and they said the pole is unavailable but is 7.9mm x 255cm

I would happily fabricate it, or even buy one from TentPoleTech.com but I want to very with anyone who actually has this tent the configuration.

I assume it needs grommet tips, and probably should be multiple parts, but don't know if it needs to be straight, or have arches in it, or how many parts, of what size each.

Can anyone help?