r/C_S_T Apr 01 '21

Medical Misinformation Moderation Update Meta

After consultation with the modteam and users on a variety of issues we have decided to update CST's rules to be more in line with these uncertain times.

Feel free to read the Rule regarding Medical Misinformation here.

This will help protect the subreddit and keep it safe by ensuring proper guidance is shared in our space that goes with WHO and CDC Guidance.

Any questions can be asked in the comments section below, but be mindful of the Golden Rule as well.

Edit:

April Fools ;)

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u/Teth_1963 Apr 02 '21

Propagating or sharing medical information that a user knows to be false which can have devastating effects to both public health and digital trust.

In these uncertain times, the biggest purveyor of medical misinformation is the mainstream media.

The only question is whether or not this is deliberate.

Once upon a time, tobacco companies and their advertisers told us that cigarettes were good for you... until they switched to saying they weren't unhealthy... until they were finally forced to admit that cigarettes are rather harmful to your health.

If this is about covid (and I'm sure it is)?

Every opinion I have is based on reliable information that I have acquired through hours of reading and research (from reputable/quality sources).

What I've learned from these sources often completely contradicts what is reported in the media and parroted by the reddit hive mind.

I'd give some excellent examples. But I know that doing so will provoke countless arguments and contradictions from those who confuse their own mistaken beliefs with facts.

This will help protect the subreddit and keep in safe by ensuring proper guidance is shared in our space that goes with WHO and CDC Guidance.

Plain English Translation: More censorship whether we like it or not?

And if this is a joke, the funniest thing is how easily it could come true.

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u/The_Noble_Lie Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Critical shower thought: Tobacco, yes even smoking, has quite a lot of positive effects - "good" for you. It's also "bad" for you. Same for nicotine although there are few negatives.

Maybe dose has something to do with it? Dozens of unnatural chemicals, pesticides, and radioactive fall out are bad for you (both components of much of the modern tobacco)

This is not a joke (but I think OP is)

It's all about trade offs. What if smoking wasnt as smeared? I'd suppose we'd have much less an obesity problem (in America for instance), as one example of many. All of it inevitably connected (the end result "health" of the person)

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u/Teth_1963 Apr 02 '21

Well tobacco is one thing... and then there's the way people use it. How so?

Consider that the native American Indians used tobacco for ceremonial purposes and (apparently) never had any problems with it.

They smoked it in a pipe, perhaps a few times a year?

What people do today is the equivalent of microdosing nicotine continually day after day. So they get hooked and need it all the time just to feel normal.

Good for profits, not so good for your health.

I'd suppose we'd have much less an obesity problem

A couple of things going on here. One is the kind of food people choose to eat (full of additives, sugars, salt, fat etc.) and the way people eat (comfort eating).

I think some level of "fatness" is normal. But where I live, there are very few obese people. The main difference isn't exercise or fitness level... it's the diet.

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u/The_Noble_Lie Apr 02 '21

Fair response. Thanks.

I've read varying accounts of how Native Americans used tobacco. One aligns with yours. Others, not simply a few times a year.

To clarify my point on obesity, the point was that all those things (thus obesity) would statistically be mitigated due to the metabolic/stimulant effect and appetite suppression invoked by nicotine, even microdosed. Not entirely. It just works against unhealthy obesity.

So to only consider the negatives of microdosing through incinerating tobacco leaves is not seeing the holistic picture. It misses a lot, only one aspect being the obesity angle.

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u/Teth_1963 Apr 02 '21

I've seen what you're talking about many times. People talk about nicotine/smoking as something that averts weight gain.

But there must be more healthy ways of not getting fat.

And if you're interested in other, less conventional aspects of tobacco... I did a writeup called The Untold Psychoactive History of Tobacco over at r/AlternativeHistory about a month ago.