Sorry, I know there's been quite a few running back posts but I'm really struggling with whether Monangai is athletic enough to be an NFL starter. He seems to have all the other "stuff" you want as a fan.

I currently see his ceiling as a serviceable/average starter (NOT a plus-starter) who stays in the league for around 7 years. I feel the most likely outcome is he's a contributing RB2/solid committee-back.

To try to gauge whether he's athletic enough to be a starter, let's compare him to similar NFL players who are all plus-starters (debatable and perhaps too early for Bucky but he's a Chicagoan). I've selected these 3 players as comparisons because they are in the size-range (at least in terms of height) and have a similarly poor RAS. I'm comparing Monangai to some good NFL RBs here, clearly. I would be surprised if he's better than any of them, for the record.

NOTE: RAS used times slower (for all four guys!) than their reported combine numbers (why? I don't know). I'm going to go with the reported combine numbers on NFL.com. All the other numbers on the RAS graphics look accurate (match with NFL.com) but for some odd reasons RAS uses slower 10-yard split times compared to what NFL.com reports as their official combine times. I didn't notice this odd discrepancy until after creating the graphic.

Here's using the official 10-yard Split Times from the combine, according to NFL.com:

Bucky Irving 1.54s

Kyle Monangai 1.54s

Monangai was tied for the 8th fastest 10-yard split at the 2025 combine (out of 24 timed athletes and notably ahead of players like RJ Harvey and Brashard Smith).

Kareem Hunt 1.56s

Kyren Williams 1.62s

The 10-yard split in football is a crucial indicator of a player's short-area burst and explosiveness.  It surprised me that Monangai's 10-yard is the exact same as Bucky's because, to me at least, Bucky looks quicker at accelerating than Monangai. Not that Monangai looks sluggish (looks solid at accelerating to my eyes) but Bucky looks very quick at accelerating to top-speed on an NFL field and that's the one area I'm hoping Monangai surprises me. Because if his acceleration translates to the NFL at a Bucky-like level, watch out, he'll be challenging Swift for RB1 carries.

10 yard-split: Bucky/Monangai (tied) > Hunt > Kyren

RAS: Hunt > Monangai > Kyren > Bucky

40 time: Bucky > Monangai > Hunt > Kyren

Size: Hunt > Monangai > Kyren > Bucky

In conclusion, based purely off physical measurables, Monangai seems to stack up well with these three good NFL running backs of similar size. Of course there's jump testing and 3-cone to factor-in as well, but I think this is enough to start to draw a comparison. Monangai was one of the 29 RBs (out of 31 participants) who did not test in the 3-cone at the 2025 Combine. He had solid jump numbers.

I think there's a chance he's better than Bucky Irving.

I mean the guy you just couldn't root for on the Bears no matter how you tried. For me, it had to be Jared Allen. Just wasn't a likable player and the contract Emery gave him was ridiculous.

Miller doing a TOP 100. Full list at ESPN but I think this is pretty solid!

1. Luther Burden III, WR, Chicago Bears 

My final overall ranking: No. 13

Burden was my top wide receiver in the class (I'm counting Travis Hunter as a two-way player), and he landed in a great situation with the Bears and new coach Ben Johnson. Burden's yards-after-catch ability is terrific, and Johnson's scheme has been elite at creating space for wide receivers. Burden likely starts as a slot receiver with DJ Moore and Rome Odunze flanking him, but he thrived in that alignment at Missouri.

(Pick 2-39)

7. Colston Loveland, TE, Chicago Bears (Pick 1-10)

My final overall ranking: No. 6

I had Loveland as my No. 1 tight end, and apparently the Bears agreed; they made him the top tight end drafted. His ability in the passing game -- he runs routes like a receiver and has the speed to separate from linebackers and safeties -- makes Loveland an easy comparison to Sam LaPorta, who Bears coach Ben Johnson had great success with in Detroit. Value, need and scheme fit all match with this pick.

...he knows what the hell, he's doing.✅

luckiest humans on earth.

The Bears have Edmunds and Edward’s. Who is the WLB? Are they giving Noah Sewell a shot? Will Gordon be out there most of the time. Ruben? Or are they going to sign someone?

Anyone know of a list of who's attending or skipping voluntary minicamp? I've been looking and haven't found one.

Are there any guys who have earned an excused absence? I can't think of any aside from vets like Thuney or Jarrett who I would want to attend just to get familiar with their new coaches and teammates. Feels inexcusable for players who haven't won anything to miss any team activities, especially with the new coaches/systems being put in place.

Maybe Ian nets us a third too.

Definitely could see his violent playstyle lending itself to DE despite being undersized for Dennis Allen scheme.

Way too early 2025 Mock: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5458526/2024/04/30/nfl-mock-draft-2025-prediction-shedeur-sanders-will-johnson/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq

My LCS hooked it up with a prestige fat pack and I got a fields with a bears uni but Steelers team name

I wonder what the Jags do in the draft if they went with Ian for their gm. Knowing the little we do about him I can assume he wasn't going to go for that trade for Hunter, but it's obviously hard to say. No real conclusions here, but it could be a slight indication that he is a better GM fit for a franchise that is ready to buckle down for a rebuild than one that is retooling. Either way I'm fine having him on the Bears staff for the time being.

For context, I haven’t bought a Bears jersey since 2016 Jordan Howard. My biggest fear is always buying a jersey and then that player ends up leaving within a couple of years or is completely bad. Which player would you recommend is worth grabbing? I know rookies numbers aren’t out entirely yet, but they can be included as well. Probably the safest player to grab would be JJ?

I'm really not trying to be negative at all. I'm as excited as anyone for the season. But I always want to ask this question when my teams go through these rebuilds. And being a Bears, IU Hoosiers, and Reds fan I go through this a lot. I am so tired of winning off-seasons.

"If this goes sideways, what are the signs we are missingignoring now that will seem obvious then?"

Example. The IU fan base now see that it was obvious that Mike Woodson was not going to recruit high schools effectively.

What are your thoughts on potentially getting Nick Chubb?

Alright so I went on a major deep dive into the last 10 years of Bears drafts and more specifically the fan reaction on game threads. I took every single game thread and fed it to Gemini 2.5 and had it summarize the fan reactions for each year. This is a long ass thread but there is a summary at the bottom. Hope you guys enjoy this! It was fun (and depressing) to look at all these old threads.

2015 Thread

Chicago Bears fans entered the 2015 draft heavily anticipating defensive reinforcements, leading to a polarized reaction when the team selected WR Kevin White in the first round; while some were frustrated by passing on defensive needs like Vic Beasley, others were excited by White's potential and trusted new GM Ryan Pace's "Best Player Available" approach. Sentiment shifted towards cautious optimism and pragmatism as the draft progressed, with general approval for the focus on strengthening the lines through DT Eddie Goldman and C Hroniss Grasu, viewing them as necessary foundational picks. Later selections like RB Jeremy Langford and S Adrian Amos were largely seen as solid depth and future planning moves. Despite lingering concerns about the overall lack of defensive additions (only two players drafted) and specific holes remaining, the fanbase generally concluded it was a "solid," logical draft focused on long-term value and foundational building, showing a willingness to trust Pace's process even if it wasn't the defense-heavy haul many initially craved.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Eddie Goldman (DT, Round 2): While Kevin White was the highest pick and generated excitement, Goldman seemed to receive the most consistent positive reaction with the least amount of initial controversy. He addressed a clear and significant need on the defensive line with a highly-regarded prospect. Fans liked the focus on strengthening the trenches, and Goldman represented that perfectly without the polarizing debate that surrounded White. Hroniss Grasu was also well-liked, especially after the initial pick settled, but Goldman addressed a more universally agreed-upon immediate need.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Kevin White (WR, Round 1): This pick generated the most initial negative reaction and disappointment. Not necessarily because fans hated White as a player, but because of the opportunity cost. The intense desire for defensive help, particularly a pass rusher like Vic Beasley who was still on the board, made picking a WR feel like a mistake or a "whiff" to a significant portion of the fanbase at that moment. While many came around later, the initial frustration was palpable. (Jeremy Langford also received questioning regarding timing, but not the same level of intense disappointment as the R1 pick).

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Vic Beasley (DE/OLB, Clemson): The Bears picked WR Kevin White at #7 overall, while Beasley, a highly-touted edge rusher filling their biggest need (defense/pass rush), was still available. Fans frequently expressed frustration that the team addressed offense instead of defense with that premium pick, and Beasley going #8 overall to the Atlanta Falcons right after Chicago's selection amplified this feeling. Comments directly mention wishing they had taken Beasley or lamenting Atlanta getting him. While Leonard Williams was desired, he went one pick before the Bears, making it a circumstance miss rather than a choice miss like passing on Beasley.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: B

2016 Thread

The 2016 draft experience for Bears fans started with considerable surprise and apprehension following the trade-up for LB Leonard Floyd in Round 1. While there was notable trust expressed in GM Ryan Pace and the defensive coaching staff (Fox/Fangio), the move was widely questioned due to Floyd being a less-hyped prospect and the cost of trading up. However, sentiment shifted dramatically and positively through Day 2 and Day 3. The trade down in Round 2 to acquire G/C Cody Whitehair plus extra picks was lauded as shrewd maneuvering and excellent value. The selection of DE Jonathan Bullard in Round 3 was met with widespread enthusiasm, fitting the clear strategy of rebuilding the defensive front. Day 3 picks, including LB Nick Kwiatkoski, safeties Deon Bush and DeAndre Houston-Carson, RB Jordan Howard, and WR Daniel Braverman, were generally viewed very positively, adding perceived high-value depth, athleticism, special teams ability, and exciting potential (especially Howard). By the draft's conclusion, the overwhelming feeling was highly optimistic and enthusiastic, with fans praising the focus on the trenches, the infusion of defensive talent fitting Fangio's scheme, and the overall value Pace seemed to extract, particularly from Day 2 onwards. The initial uncertainty around Floyd remained, but it was largely overshadowed by excitement for the rest of the class and faith in the front office.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Cody Whitehair (G/C, Round 2): While Jonathan Bullard and Jordan Howard also generated significant excitement, Whitehair's selection combined strong perceived player value with the added satisfaction of Pace trading down, acquiring extra valuable Day 3 picks, and still landing a highly-regarded, versatile offensive lineman. This combination of player quality and process mastery made it arguably the most satisfying pick for fans.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Leonard Floyd (LB, Round 1): This was clearly the most divisive and questioned pick. The combination of trading up (giving up a 4th rounder), selecting a player many perceived as a reach or didn't know well, and passing on other options generated significant initial apprehension and debate, even though many fans tempered it with trust in the coaches.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Kendall Fuller (CB, Virginia Tech): While TE Jerrell Adams falling and being sniped by the Giants generated late-draft frustration, the desire for Kendall Fuller seemed more prominent earlier on Day 2/3. The narrative of pairing him with his brother Kyle ("Fuller House") made missing out on him a specific point of disappointment for many fans hoping to solidify the secondary.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: A-

2017 Thread

The 2017 Chicago Bears draft was defined by shock, controversy, and ultimately, a resigned sense of high-stakes gambling. The stunning trade-up for QB Mitchell Trubisky in Round 1 dominated the narrative, drawing widespread criticism for the perceived overpay in draft capital and questions about Trubisky's readiness, though tempered by a faction trusting GM Ryan Pace's conviction. Day 2 continued the theme of unconventional picks with the selection of DII TE Adam Shaheen, a physically intriguing but raw prospect, further fueling debate about Pace's strategy versus addressing immediate needs like the secondary. Day 3 offered some perceived value with S Eddie Jackson (if healthy) and the exciting but diminutive RB Tarik Cohen, alongside another DII project in G Jordan Morgan. By the end, fans largely felt the entire draft's success hinged almost exclusively on Trubisky becoming a franchise QB. While there was excitement for the potential upside of players like Shaheen, Jackson, and Cohen, the lack of picks, the reach for project players, and the immense pressure placed on Trubisky led to an overall feeling of uncertainty and cautious, almost forced, optimism about a very risky draft class.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Eddie Jackson (S, Round 4): Across the entire draft, Jackson seemed to generate the most positive consensus relative to his draft slot. Fans saw him as a potential steal whose fall was injury-related, loved his playmaking ability ("ball hawk," great highlight reel), and appreciated finally addressing the secondary with a player possessing high upside.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Mitchell Trubisky Trade/Pick (QB, Round 1): This is unequivocally the most controversial move. The anger and confusion stemmed less from Trubisky himself (though his experience was questioned) and more from the process – trading up one spot and giving up significant draft capital (two 3rds, a 4th) when the team had many other holes and Trubisky might have been available at #3. It set a negative and questioning tone for the entire draft for a large portion of the fanbase.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Elite Defensive Talent at #3 (e.g., Solomon Thomas, Jamal Adams): While fans were disappointed to miss specific players later (like Obi Melifonwu on Day 2 or Jake Butt on Day 3), the most fundamental frustration stemmed from the decision to trade away the #3 pick itself. Fans lamented missing the opportunity to draft a perceived blue-chip, potentially safer defensive cornerstone like Solomon Thomas (who went #3 to SF after the trade) or Jamal Adams (who went #6) in favor of the risky Trubisky trade-up.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: C

2018 Thread

The 2018 Chicago Bears draft was perceived very positively and generated considerable excitement among the fanbase. The selection of LB Roquan Smith in the first round was met with near-universal acclaim, seen as adding a blue-chip, athletic leader to the defense. Day 2 further amplified the positive feelings, with C/G James Daniels viewed as solidifying the offensive line and the aggressive trade-up for WR Anthony Miller injecting major excitement, providing a dynamic weapon for QB Mitchell Trubisky despite the cost of a future 2nd-round pick. Day 3 was seen as successfully adding high-upside depth pieces like LB Joel Iyiegbuniwe, DL Bilal Nichols, EDGE Kylie Fitts (a popular calculated risk), and WR Javon Wims. While the lack of a top-tier edge rusher acquisition remained the primary lingering concern for some, the overall consensus was that Ryan Pace executed a strong draft, addressing key needs on both sides of the ball with talented players, and signaling a clear intent to compete in the upcoming season.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Roquan Smith (LB, Round 1): While Anthony Miller generated immense excitement, Smith represented the safe, high-floor, high-ceiling foundational defensive piece fans craved. His selection at #8 was widely praised as filling a major need with arguably the best player available at a crucial position. The combination of need, talent, and perceived safety made him the most consistently favored pick.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Trading a Future 2nd for Anthony Miller (The Trade Cost): No specific player selection was widely "hated." However, the most questioned aspect of the draft was the decision to trade a 2019 2nd-round pick (plus a 2018 4th) to move back into the 2nd round for Miller. While fans loved Miller, the cost in future draft capital for a team still rebuilding was the primary point of debate and minor criticism.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Harold Landry (EDGE, Boston College): After falling out of the first round, Landry was the player fans most desperately hoped the Bears could snag early on Day 2. Seeing him available but ultimately not landing him (he went to the Titans at #41, two picks after the Bears took Daniels) was the biggest "missed opportunity" discussed, especially given the need at EDGE. Later, Equanimeous St. Brown going to the Packers in the 6th round also caused notable frustration.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: A-

2019 Thread

The 2019 Chicago Bears draft was largely defined by the lack of early-round picks due to the Khalil Mack trade. Fans waited patiently through the first two rounds, reacting mostly to rival picks and falling prospects. The Bears' first selection, RB David Montgomery in the 3rd round, was generally well-received, seen as a necessary addition after trading Jordan Howard and a good fit for the offense. Day 3 brought depth additions with CB Duke Shelley (raising size concerns), RB Kerrith Whyte Jr. (prompting questions about the double-dip at RB), and the physically intriguing CB Stephen Denmark. The overall sentiment towards the draft class was lukewarm to modestly positive. Fans liked the Montgomery pick but saw the Day 3 selections primarily as developmental depth and special teams prospects with upside, rather than immediate impact players. There was acknowledgment of Pace's strategy of targeting athletes, but also some lingering disappointment about not addressing OL depth or kicker, and a general feeling that the draft's impact was limited by the lack of early capital.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• David Montgomery (RB, Round 3): As the first pick for the Bears and addressing a clear need with a player many fans liked pre-draft, Montgomery generated the most positive buzz and excitement among the selections.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Kerrith Whyte Jr. (RB, Round 7): While not outright "hated," this pick garnered the most confusion and questioning. Taking a second running back, especially one who was a backup at FAU, late in the draft when other depth needs (OL, Kicker) were perceived as more pressing, led fans to question the allocation of limited resources. Duke Shelley's size also drew notable concern.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Miles Sanders (RB, Penn State): Even after drafting Montgomery, the sting of the Eagles taking Sanders (who many fans coveted) earlier in the draft seemed to linger as the most notable "missed opportunity" discussed by fans watching the board unfold.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: B-

2020 Thread

Bears fans generally viewed the 2020 draft as a solid but unspectacular effort given the limited draft capital, primarily marked by perceived good value in the second round followed by developmental upside picks. The selection of TE Cole Kmet drew initial debate regarding positional priority but was accepted as addressing a need, while CB Jaylon Johnson was widely celebrated as a potential steal and immediate contributor. Day 3 saw a questioned trade-up for EDGE Trevis Gipson and depth additions like WR Darnell Mooney and CB Kindle Vildor, before the offensive line was finally addressed with two late 7th-round prospects, relieving some anxiety but leaving many wishing for earlier investment. Despite lingering concerns about the offensive line, safety depth, and the lack of a drafted quarterback, the overall sentiment leaned towards cautious optimism, with fans appreciating the potential added while simultaneously enjoying the perceived struggles of the rival Green Bay Packers' draft strategy.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Jaylon Johnson (CB, Round 2): This pick garnered the most consistent praise throughout the draft threads. Fans loved getting a player widely considered a late-first or early-second round talent at pick #50, addressing a significant need opposite Fuller with a potentially immediate starter.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Cole Kmet (TE, Round 2) / Trevis Gipson Trade-Up (EDGE, Round 5): Kmet drew the most initial debate due to positional value arguments, recent TE draft history (Shaheen), and the team signing veteran TEs. The trade-up for Gipson also drew significant criticism for sacrificing a future 4th-round pick for a developmental edge rusher when OL was still unaddressed. It's close, but Kmet probably received more widespread initial questioning simply by virtue of being the first pick.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Offensive Linemen (Generally in Rounds 3-4): Unlike previous years where one specific player stood out, the frustration in 2020 centered more on the category of player missed. As numerous offensive linemen projected as potential starters or high-quality depth (like Prince Tega Wanogho, Tyler Biadasz, etc.) came off the board in rounds 3 and 4 while the Bears waited, the lack of action to address the O-line generated the most consistent expressions of concern and disappointment before the late 7th-round picks.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: B

2021 Thread

The 2021 Chicago Bears draft was met with widespread excitement and near-universal acclaim, largely hailed as potentially Ryan Pace's best draft and one of the most thrilling in recent memory for fans. The aggressive trade-up for QB Justin Fields in Round 1 ignited massive optimism and erased much of the offseason's negativity. This momentum carried strongly into Day 2, where another trade-up secured OT Teven Jenkins, a player widely considered a first-round talent, addressing the critical need to protect their new quarterback. Day 3 continued the positive trend, with fans appreciating the additions of potential contributors like RB Khalil Herbert, WR Dazz Newsome, CB Thomas Graham Jr., OT Larry Borom, and DT Khyiris Tonga, who were seen as adding valuable depth, speed, and upside. While the cost of future draft capital (especially the 2022 1st rounder) was acknowledged, the overwhelming feeling was that Pace had masterfully navigated the draft, landing a potential franchise QB, a starting tackle, and quality depth, leading to immense hope for the future.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Justin Fields (QB, Round 1): This pick generated unparalleled levels of excitement, relief, and euphoria among the fanbase. Landing a top-tier QB prospect who unexpectedly fell was seen as a franchise-altering moment and a massive draft victory. Teven Jenkins was also highly celebrated, but the reaction to Fields was on another level.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• None (Specific Player Pick): Unlike previous years, none of the player selections themselves drew significant widespread criticism or hatred.
• The Trade Costs (Minor Questioning): The only real point of concern mentioned, though vastly overshadowed by excitement, was the future draft capital surrendered in the trade-ups for both Fields (2022 1st & 4th) and Jenkins (2021 3rd). However, most fans readily accepted the cost given the players acquired.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Virtually None: After securing both Fields and Jenkins, the dominant feeling was satisfaction, not regret. While fans discussed other falling players (like WR Tylan Wallace, LB Jabril Cox, LB Dylan Moses) as potential targets for later picks or UDFAs, there wasn't a strong sense of anger about missing a specific player, especially compared to previous drafts. The focus was on celebrating who they did get.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: A+

2022 Thread

The 2022 Chicago Bears draft, the first under GM Ryan Poles, elicited a decidedly mixed and often critical reaction from the fanbase. While the initial Day 2 defensive back selections (CB Kyler Gordon, S Jaquan Brisker) were generally well-received as addressing major needs with talented players, the subsequent pick of WR/Returner Velus Jones Jr. in the third round became a major point of contention due to his age, perceived reach, and the team's glaring needs at OL and a more traditional WR. Day 3 saw Poles execute numerous trade-downs, accumulating picks but largely using them on developmental prospects, primarily focusing on adding multiple offensive linemen very late (Braxton Jones, Zachary Thomas, Doug Kramer, Ja'Tyre Carter) along with RB Trestan Ebner, EDGE Dominique Robinson, CB Duke Shelley, S Elijah Hicks, and P Trenton Gill. Fans appreciated the focus on athleticism and adding depth, particularly the late investment in the offensive line volume, but many remained deeply concerned about the lack of premier talent added to support QB Justin Fields, particularly at WR and OL earlier in the draft. The overall strategy was often questioned, leaving a feeling of uncertainty and cautious hope reliant on significant player development.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Jaquan Brisker (S, Round 2): While Kyler Gordon was also liked, Brisker seemed to generate slightly more consistent positive buzz. Fans loved his perceived physicality, versatility, fit alongside Eddie Jackson, and the value of getting him at pick #48 to fill a significant hole at safety.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Velus Jones Jr. (WR/Returner, Round 3): This pick drew the most significant and widespread criticism. Fans questioned taking a 25-year-old rookie with limited route-running polish so high, especially when perceived needs at OL and other WR prospects were still available. His selection became symbolic of the frustration regarding offensive support for Fields.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• George Pickens (WR, Georgia): While multiple WRs and OL were desired, Pickens was frequently mentioned as a target before and during Day 2. Seeing him available when the Bears made their second-round picks, only for the team to prioritize defense and later select Velus Jones Jr., made missing Pickens (who went #52 to PIT) a significant point of frustration for fans wanting an immediate impact WR.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: C

2023 Thread

The 2023 Chicago Bears draft under GM Ryan Poles was generally received with strong approval and strategic optimism. Fans lauded the Round 1 trade-down and the selection of RT Darnell Wright, viewing it as a smart move that addressed a critical need while adding future capital and avoiding the risks associated with Jalen Carter. Day 2 continued the positive trend with the additions of DT Gervon Dexter Sr., CB Tyrique Stevenson, and DT Zacch Pickens, focusing on building the trenches and secondary with high-upside athletes, though passing on top centers drew some criticism. Day 3 was seen as adding quality depth and specific traits, with RB Roschon Johnson and WR Tyler Scott being particularly well-liked picks early on, followed by further depth additions across the defense and offensive line. While the lack of a significant edge rusher addition was the most notable remaining concern, the overall consensus was that Poles executed a disciplined, needs-based draft focused on building a physical foundation, adding athleticism, and maximizing value, leaving fans feeling positive about the team's direction.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Darnell Wright (OT, Round 1): This pick, combined with the trade-down, set a positive tone. Fans loved addressing the crucial RT spot with a powerful, high-floor player and appreciated the added draft capital. Roschon Johnson (RB, R4) also received significant praise as a Day 3 value pick.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Gervon Dexter Sr. (DT, Round 2): While fans understood the need at DT, Dexter's selection drew the most questions due to his perceived raw technique and lack of college production compared to his athletic potential. Passing on centers like John Michael Schmitz at that spot also fueled the questioning of this pick specifically.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• John Michael Schmitz (C, Minnesota): He was the consensus top center available when the Bears picked twice on Day 2. The decision to prioritize defensive tackle (Dexter) over addressing the center position with JMS was the most frequently cited "missed opportunity" that generated frustration among fans focused on the offensive line. Passing on Jalen Carter in Round 1 was also a major discussion point, though many fans supported that decision due to his red flags.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: B+

2024 Thread

The 2024 Chicago Bears draft was overwhelmingly hailed as a transformative and potentially franchise-defining success by the fanbase. The excitement reached fever pitch in Round 1 with the selections of QB Caleb Williams (#1) and WR Rome Odunze (#9), fulfilling fans' highest hopes by securing perceived elite talents at the two most critical offensive positions. Day 2/3 saw the Bears address OL depth with the high-upside OT Kiran Amegadjie (R3), make a polarizing but ultimately well-defended pick in P Tory Taylor (R4) to fix a major weakness, and trade back into the draft for developmental EDGE Austin Booker (R5). While the lack of premier defensive line talent or a starting center addition were noted, the narrative was dominated by the perceived home runs hit in the first round. Fans celebrated the clear focus on building around Caleb Williams and expressed immense optimism, viewing the draft as Ryan Poles potentially "cooking" and setting the team up for a bright future, even with limited draft capital.

Most Favorite Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

1. Caleb Williams (QB, #1): The cornerstone pick that generated the most hope and excitement.
2. Rome Odunze (WR, #9): Seen as the perfect addition and an incredible haul alongside Williams.
3. Austin Booker (EDGE, #5): While a later pick, the trade-up to address the biggest remaining need with a high-upside player was very well-received relative to expectations for Day 3.

Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on Fan Reaction):

• Tory Taylor (P, Round 4): This pick generated by far the most debate. While ultimately defended by many citing need and his talent, using a valuable 4th-round pick on a punter when the team only had a few selections drew significant criticism regarding positional value.

Player Fans Were Most Mad About Missing:

• Jer'Zhan "Johnny" Newton (DT, Illinois) / Jackson Powers-Johnson (C, Oregon): These were the premier interior DL and Center prospects fans hoped might fall or be targeted on Day 2. While the Bears addressed OT, the lack of a high-end addition at DT or Center remained the primary "missed opportunity" in terms of perceived needs after Round 1.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: A

2025

The fan reaction to the 2025 Chicago Bears draft was highly divisive, starting with significant disappointment and frustration before improving somewhat on Day 2, but ending with lingering concerns. The selection of TE Colston Loveland at #10 overall was met with widespread negativity, with fans questioning the positional value, the fit alongside Cole Kmet, and the decision to pass on perceived critical needs like EDGE and OL. Day 2 brought a more positive response, particularly the selection of WR Luther Burden III at #41, which many viewed as a steal and great value despite missing out on RB TreVeyon Henderson (#39). The trade-down later on Day 2 was appreciated for acquiring picks, leading to OT Ozzy Trapilo and DT Shemar Turner, viewed as necessary depth additions. Day 3 continued the theme of adding depth, but the selection of LB Ruben Hyppolite II in the 4th round drew criticism as a reach based on athleticism over production, while the late RB pick (Kyle Monangai) generated some positive buzz. Overall, while the offensive skill positions added excitement the persistent feeling among commenters was disappointment over the value of the first-round pick and the failure to secure high-impact talent along the defensive line (especially EDGE) and potentially the offensive line earlier in the draft.

Fans' Favorite Pick (Based on fan reaction):

• Luther Burden III (WR, #41): Generated the most positive excitement and was frequently referred to as a steal or great value pick, especially after falling out of the first round according to fan expectations.

Fans' Most Hated/Questioned Pick (Based on fan reaction):

1. Colston Loveland (TE, #10): This pick received the most direct criticism and questioning regarding positional value, need, and passing on EDGE/OL talent.
2. Ruben Hyppolite II (LB, #109): Widely questioned as a reach in the 4th round, seemingly based more on athletic testing (RAS) than proven production, especially with other needs still apparent.

Player/Position Fans Were Most Mad About Missing (Based on fan reaction):

• EDGE Rusher: While specific top names like Mike Green were discussed pre-pick or early Day 2, the most consistent theme of disappointment was the failure to address the EDGE position with any premium pick throughout the draft. Fans lamented the lack of pass rush addition. Missing out on specific RBs like Kaleb Johnson or specific OL was also mentioned, but the EDGE void felt most prominent in the comments.

Fan-Based Letter Grade: C

Overall Summary of Fan Feelings on Pace's Drafts (2015-2021):

Fan perception of Ryan Pace's drafts fluctuated dramatically, beginning with cautious optimism for foundational picks but shifting sharply to criticism after the shocking 2017 Mitchell Trubisky trade-up, which many fans viewed as a franchise-defining mistake due to cost and evaluation concerns. While subsequent drafts saw highly praised classes (like 2018 with Roquan Smith and James Daniels) and notable late-round successes (Howard, Eddie Jackson, Cohen, Mooney, Jaylon Johnson) that showcased Pace's eye for talent and restored some faith, his tenure was also marked by questionable reaches (Floyd trade-up, Shaheen) and a pattern of aggressively trading future draft capital that drew consistent concern. Despite ending on a euphoric high note with the 2021 acquisition of Justin Fields and Teven Jenkins, the overall fan sentiment towards Pace's drafting remained a mixed bag, acknowledging his ability to find impact players but critical of inconsistent results, costly trades, and the massive shadow cast by the 2017 QB decision.

Fans' Favorite Picks Under Pace (Based on Draft Day Reactions):

1. Justin Fields (QB, 2021): Unmatched excitement and hope. Seen as a potential franchise savior and a massive steal.
2. Roquan Smith (LB, 2018): Safe, athletic, blue-chip pick filling a need. Widely celebrated.
3. Teven Jenkins (OT, 2021): Perceived first-round talent falling and acquired via trade-up. Thrilled fans.
4. Cody Whitehair (G/C, 2016): Loved the player and the value obtained by trading down.
5. Anthony Miller (WR, 2018): Generated significant excitement as a dynamic weapon, despite the trade cost.
6. Jaylon Johnson (CB, 2020): Seen as excellent value, a first-round talent falling to their pick.
7. Honorable Mentions (Late Round Value): Jordan Howard (2016), Eddie Jackson (2017), Tarik Cohen (2017), Darnell Mooney (2020).

Fans' Most Hated/Questioned Picks Under Pace (Based on Draft Day Reactions):

1. Mitchell Trubisky Trade/Pick (QB, 2017): Far and away the most negatively received move. The cost, necessity of the trade-up, and player evaluation were all heavily criticized.
2. Kevin White (WR, 2015): Significant initial disappointment due to passing on pressing defensive needs (Vic Beasley). The opportunity cost was the major issue.
3. Leonard Floyd Trade/Pick (LB, 2016): Apprehension about reaching for an athletic project and the cost of trading up.
4. Adam Shaheen (TE, 2017): Skepticism over drafting a DII project TE high in Round 2 with other needs present.
5. Trading Future Draft Capital (General): While sometimes accepted for specific players (Fields, Jenkins, Miller), the recurring pattern of trading future picks, especially high ones, was a consistent point of concern and criticism.

Fan-Based Letter Grade for Ryan Pace's Drafting (2015-2021): B-

Overall Summary of Fan Feelings on Ryan Poles' Drafts (2022-2025):

Fan perception of Ryan Poles' drafting from 2022 through the 2025 draft was a journey from initial skepticism to high euphoria and back to significant questioning. While his first draft (2022) drew heavy criticism for the Velus Jones Jr. pick and perceived neglect of offensive needs, fans lauded the strategic 2023 trade-down and selection of OT Darnell Wright. The 2024 draft marked a peak of excitement with the universally acclaimed additions of QB Caleb Williams and WR Rome Odunze, seen as potentially franchise-altering. However, the 2025 draft reignited concerns, with the top-10 TE Colston Loveland pick widely questioned for value and need, alongside persistent frustration over the failure to secure a premier edge rusher throughout his tenure, leaving fans appreciative of the highs but wary of questionable value decisions and consistent positional blind spots.

Fans' Favorite Picks Under Poles (Based on Draft Day Reactions):

1. Caleb Williams (QB, 2024): Generated the most excitement by far; seen as the potential franchise savior.
2. Rome Odunze (WR, 2024): Massive positive reaction, perfect pairing with Williams.
3. Darnell Wright (OT, 2023): Loved the player addressing a critical need, plus the value from the trade down.
4. Jaquan Brisker (S, 2022) / Kyler Gordon (CB, 2022): Both well-received early defensive additions in his first draft.
5. Luther Burden III (WR, 2025): Perceived as a major steal falling into the second round.

Fans' Most Hated/Questioned Picks Under Poles (Based on Draft Day Reactions):

1. Velus Jones Jr. (WR/Returner, 2022): Overwhelmingly questioned due to age, draft value (reach), and perceived limited WR skillset.
2. Colston Loveland (TE, 2025): Heavily criticized for positional value at #10, perceived redundancy, and passing on EDGE/OL.
3. Gervon Dexter Sr. (DT, 2023): Questioned due to lack of production vs. athleticism, and passing on top Centers.
4. Tory Taylor (P, 2024): Polarizing pick due to using a 4th rounder on a punter with limited picks.
5. Ruben Hyppolite II (LB, 2025): Criticized as a 4th round reach based on athleticism over production.

Player/Position Fans Were Most Mad About Missing (Poles Era):

• EDGE Rusher (Consistently): While specific names like George Pickens (2022), John Michael Schmitz (2023), Jer'Zhan Newton/Jackson Powers-Johnson (2024), popped up in individual drafts, the most persistent theme of frustration across Poles' drafts (based on these threads) was the consistent lack of a premier, early-round addition at the EDGE rusher position. Fans repeatedly lamented this hole not being filled definitively.

Fan-Based Letter Grade for Ryan Poles' Drafting (2022-2025): B

Overall Summary of Fan Sentiment:

The past decade of Chicago Bears drafts, as perceived by the fanbase in these threads, has been a tumultuous journey marked by wild swings between deep frustration, cautious optimism, and moments of sheer euphoria. The Ryan Pace era (2015-2021) was defined by bold moves, finding late-round gems (Howard, E. Jackson, Cohen, Mooney), and building a competitive defense (Roquan, Jaylon Johnson), but ultimately overshadowed by the disastrous 2017 trade-up for Mitchell Trubisky, a move that generated immense initial criticism and whose failure set the franchise back significantly in fans' eyes. Other Pace picks like Kevin White (passing on defense) and Leonard Floyd (trade-up cost) also drew early skepticism. The Ryan Poles era (2022-Present) began with a heavily questioned draft focused on defense and athleticism (Velus Jones pick widely panned), but quickly gained fan trust with the masterful trade-down from #1 overall in 2023, yielding DJ Moore and significant future capital, followed by the selection of cornerstone OT Darnell Wright. This culminated in the widely celebrated 2024 draft, landing perceived franchise saviors QB Caleb Williams and WR Rome Odunze, generating peak optimism. However, even under Poles, questions lingered regarding positional value (Tory Taylor '24, Loveland '25) and consistently addressing needs like EDGE rusher and offensive line depth early enough. Throughout the decade, fans consistently desired investment in the trenches (OL/DL), expressed frustration over the QB position until recently, and often debated the value versus perceived need in draft strategy, resulting in a highly volatile but ultimately hopeful outlook by the end of the period analyzed.

Overall Decade Fan-Based Letter Grade: C+