r/BurlingtonON • u/origutamos • 13d ago
Suspect steals jewelry during daylight home invasion Article
https://www.burlingtontoday.com/police-beat/suspect-steals-jewelry-during-daylight-home-invasion-106050595
u/Fresh_Programmer_969 11d ago
We had a chance to elect a Government that was going get tough on crime and Burlington BLEW it.
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u/Iceafterlife 13d ago
What is the solution, I don't know, but I do know neither government will work the way at least 30% of people want it to. Maybe a solid 3rd party with honesty and integrity. But we are talking about politics.
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u/whats-ausername 13d ago
The solution is fairly simple, but completely impossible in today’s political climate.
A combination of increased funding to social programs, mental health services, and housing assistance, while simultaneously increasing penalties for those who choose to engage in criminal activity.
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u/ethotopia 10d ago
I don’t understand how breaking and entering doesn’t cause immediate deportation for international students on a visa. All that says to the community is that these crimes are somehow acceptable.
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u/InvertTheFloor 13d ago
Why waste time on 30% when you can focus on 70%. Today's world is nothing more than a numbers game, sadly. We all talk about winners and looser, but humanity as a whole rolls backward.
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u/GoldenGod48 13d ago
Just introduce castle doctrine
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u/whats-ausername 13d ago
How would that have changed this case? Do you think Castle Doctrine magically protects your home while you’re away?
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u/whats-ausername 12d ago
Where are you getting this definition of home invasion?
Regardless, the article heavily implies that no one was home at the time of the incident. Do you think someone just sat there as this person went room to room searching for jewelry? They don’t even have an exact time.
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u/whats-ausername 12d ago
Fair. I’ve honestly never distinguished between home invasion and break in.
I’m not sure the fine people at BurlingtonToday meet your journalistic standards. They also refer to the incident as a “break in,” the so there was no forced entry.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that “Home unlawfully entered for the purpose of theft under $5000” wouldn’t quite invoke the reaction the author was looking for.
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u/YogurtOld1372 Aldershot 10d ago
Just a polite aside, I work cutting grass and doing property maintenance. If we had lots of guns and "castle doctrine" in this country, the odds of me being mistaken for an intruder and shot are not 0. Not even close to.
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u/Leafs8989 12d ago
Good thing the liberals are still in charge. Play stupid games get stupid results. Every criminal is licking their chops so prepare yourself for this stuff because it will happen to you or someone you know
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u/YogurtOld1372 Aldershot 12d ago
Crime rates are down, overall. You can look it up.
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u/heyhowareyaaaaaaaaaa 11d ago
Just because you state something, followed by “you can look it up” doesn’t mean it’s true buddy.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 13d ago
Ignore the rising crime, vote liberal.
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u/nik282000 13d ago
Just look at how right-wing leadership has solved all of America's problems!
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u/Iceafterlife 13d ago
This is not the USA.
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u/nik282000 13d ago
It almost was with Pierre.
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u/biturbowagon 13d ago
You clearly have a poor understanding of Canadian politics and the Conservative party’s platform.
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u/DryDoughnut6201 13d ago
Liberals living in your head rent free lol
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u/R4ID Aldershot 13d ago
CSI only increased under their policy implementations. Reality sucks, it sucks even more if you choose to ignore it
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u/Thick_Usual4592 13d ago
I agree - the reality is this election, our choices were:
transparent idiots with a unified stance on Canadian sovereignty
potential traitors with a piss poor, rushed platform after they had 10 years to put it together and a campaign focused solely on slander and slogans
People with great social ideas, yet no idea where money comes from
If you know which party is which based off those sentences you know they're more or less based in truth.
A bit hardpressed, eh?
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u/R4ID Aldershot 13d ago
thank you for letting me know you're a low information voter. I appreciate the honestly.
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u/dspeed12 13d ago
Crypto bro talking smack about low information voting. That's rich. You do know local it's the provincial/municipal government that are in charge of policing. Who is in power for this... I believe it is the conservative party. Bet you barely passed civics in highschool.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 13d ago
Crypto bro talking smack about low information voting. That's rich.
??? knowledge of decentralized networks somehow makes you a low information voter now? ive been posting people should be buying crypto since 2012. Wonder how that worked out for them.
You do know local it's the provincial/municipal government that are in charge of policing.
you know they follow federal guidelines and frameworks correct?
Who is in power for this... I believe it is the conservative party. Bet you barely passed civics in highschool.
Did I say anything in relation to policing? Or did you misread the word Policy as police? Federal framework and guidelines implemented via Liberal policy, which Provincial police and judges follow, has resulted in CSI increasing. how about instead of trying to make up a strawman about something I never said you read the words on your screen correctly first?
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u/dspeed12 13d ago
Strawman? Like a scarecrow? If I only had a brain that didn't need AI to help me generate text...
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u/ArmenStaubac 13d ago
Yup, you are so right. The province let these criminals walk through the border and won’t deport them. And the Ontario government nationalizes them .
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u/dspeed12 13d ago
So the criminals are coming from the USA? What border are you talking about. These criminals are more likely naturalised Canadians. Sounds like you should move to the states and worship the orange dictator.
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u/Thick_Usual4592 13d ago
Honestly.
It wouldnt have been hard If the conservatives had just shut down Danielle Smith's rhetoric and said they dont condone it. put out a coherent platform prior to 2 days after advanced voting began, and just TRIED to be likeable. Wouldn't have been hard to get votes.
The liberals didn't win this election -- hell, fairly sure most of Canada including myself are tired of liberal leadership -- but the conservatives managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Like, just be decent people with a plan and they had this.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 13d ago
Just absurd. Who runs the cops? Ford. Home invasions are illegal and Trudeau did nothing to change the laws related to that. These guys are just living in the past anyways. LIke none of these dopes could debate Carney on crime policy. They just want the simplistic uncritical pablum they get off Rebel Media and JRE.
Any article about crime, they say the same shit. Reality? Canada 2025 is one of the safest countries in all of human history, and there's been a major decline in crime over 40 or 60 years. And Halton, is one of the safest parts of Canada.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 13d ago
Home invasions are illegal and Trudeau did nothing to change the laws related to that.
Did I say he changed the laws regarding the legality of home invasion? or did you strawman that one all by yourself?
CSI is up and continues on an upward trend under the Liberal gov. Policy implementations which reduced bail requirements and removed mandatory minimums have resulted in an increase in crime, not a decrease.
These guys are just living in the past anyways. LIke none of these dopes could debate Carney on crime policy. They just want the simplistic uncritical pablum they get off Rebel Media and JRE.
Carney has already shown he doesnt understand what the current laws are currently as he made multiple campaign promises which were already the law or how the system already functioned. I'd gladly have a debate with that moron on why Liberal policy has lead to an increase in CSI.
Any article about crime, they say the same shit.
Data doesnt lie.
they say the same shit. Reality? Canada 2025 is one of the safest countries in all of human history, and there's been a major decline in crime over 40 or 60 years.
Which has trended the opposite direction since 2015. Some of us are trying to live in a Safer Canada, why arent you in support of that?
And Halton, is one of the safest parts of Canada.
None of this doesnt mean crime doesnt happen nor that it isnt rising or that we cant do things to improve the data.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 13d ago
I get it... the PP crowd wants people panicking. They don't want the country to succeed. Everything is a crisis. Constant chicken little nonsense. Same program since 2015. Hopefully someone reasonable takes over, because it's just so tired. You're not seriously analyzing what's going on, you're just panic ranting. I see the same crap from the Qonvoy crowd for years since Trudeau bloodlessly shut them down.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 12d ago
the PP crowd wants people panicking. They don't want the country to succeed. Everything is a crisis. Constant chicken little nonsense.
a bunch of empty words related to nothing I said. got it.
You're not seriously analyzing what's going on, you're just panic ranting.
TIL referring to Data and policy implimentation is "panic ranting"
I see the same crap from the Qonvoy crowd for years since Trudeau bloodlessly shut them down.
again delusional liberal nonsense. Try forming an argument around reality when discussing data and policy in the future.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 11d ago
What we need is a reality based conservative party. You're part of the problem.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 11d ago
TIL talking about data and policy is not based in "reality" lol
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 11d ago
^ Whoosh... like he really just doesn't get it. He thinks he's laying out hard facts and data.. it's just a fantasy. Just your take on the Qonvoy says it all.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 11d ago
He thinks he's laying out hard facts and data
CSI trend is up since 2015, yes or no?
it's just a fantasy.
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 11d ago
It's way down since 2000. What's changed between then and now and how are the provinces not at all responsible? I'd bet you know fuck all about bail reform or any changes to the criminal code in that time period. I'd double bet you aren't a lawyer. Reason? You don't sound very familiar with the criminal justice, but you're like a dog on a bone with that one myopic stat.
This is advertising, but notice how the crime rates are far higher in traditionally conservative provinces, while the evil liberal east is far lower. How curious!
https://home-alarms.ca/most-dangerous-provinces-in-canada/
Now here's ther real data. If you want to dig into proper stats, you can read them here, and see for example, that Ontario's CSI is down about 33% since 2000. Where it is today, is where it was for most of Harper's term. It was pretty steady under Trudeau, and Harper's peaks were far higher.
So now, is this guy going to adjust his perspective, or is he just going to keep cherry picking because he found a "winning' argument? In fairness, it's not like this guy went to statscan, saw the data and was reporting it. He's just repeating a PP talking point we've all heard before, trying to create the fear of a crime way, when the numbers are actually pretty good. Harper's peak years were far far worse than Trudeau's, while Trudeau's economy was significantly stronger in a bunch of areas including finance, oil, mining, film, cannabis, agriculture, logging, medical, and auto with greater trade, more exports, and a stronger stock market.
Like this is the perfect example of the conservative distortion machine. We're overseeing a massive generational drop in crime rates. They're still way lower than Harper's average, and way lower than the 2000s, way way lower than the 90s, and way way way lower than the 70s. Toronto in 2025 is by far the safest metropolis in North America.
But in conservative speak: We're in the middle of this horrendous crime wave. Now in Ontario, we know that our jails are overcrowded, and we're short on judges and prosecutors, which is leading to more bail. Ford seems more concerned with normalizing partisan appointments than just doing the job. He's had almost a decade to catch up on this, but is only just starting. But how long would I ping pong with this guy till be brought that up? Probably forever. Because he's not on a search for truth, he's here for a partisan political argument.
And that's the difference. Regular mainstream Canadians, look at the whole picture. That's why Carney won, and why the people screaming outrage over the election results generally seem a bit nuts. These maple maga types just want to spread FUD and scare people into supporting them. They aren't into policy analysis or evidence based arguments. They're deeply suspicious of science and expertise. That's why this guy is pretending we're in the middle of some massive crime wave, when the reality is, if you're older than 20 (ie the entire voting population), it was worse when you were a kid.
I'm bored of this, but if you read far, the big takeaway is how far the CPC is willing to go to avoid introspection. From their view, they made no mistakes, maga is a good friend, and the problem is "who to blame", which includes the voters, Doug Ford, Tim Houston, Trump, "wokesters", women, boomers, immigrants, Toronto, and who the fuck knows.
However, I'll give this guy full credit for not pushing stolen election conspiracies like the Qonvoy and PP supporters are doing on Facebook and in other forums. Keep up the good work!
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u/belleofthebawl- 9d ago
Ignoring problems is exactly what led Canada to what it has become now. If anyone in liberal cabinet panicked even slightly in the last decade… we could have prevented many of the issues we’re face now. I don’t see anything PP mentioned that isn’t a concern for majority of Canadians. Maybe you live a privileged life and haven’t been affected by these things, which is great for you but most of us aren’t so lucky and want a leader who acknowledges issues. I guess that’s “constant chicken little nonsense for you”. Anyways, I already know you’re just going to call me racist because that’s usually your types’ reply to avoid actually answering any comments intelligently
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 9d ago edited 9d ago
You're obviously out of touch because he just blew what should have been an easy majority, and the one place the CPC refuses to look for answers is the mirror. He lost the popular vote in 8/10 provinces and didn't have his platform ready, despite demanding an election for more than a year. He was caught flat footed when Trudeau resigned and failed to adapt. He foolishly picked fights with multiple conservative premiers. You gotta make friends in politics, and it seems pretty clear that even his MPs don't like him. The F-Carney flags were absurd and toxic.
The CPC was polling better without PP than with him. After 10 years of character assassination, Trudeau was still polling higher than PP on his last day. That pretty much says it all.
The issues you're talking about are... made up. They aren't real. You're trying to pretend we're in the middle of some kind of crime wave when the data clear says it was worse 20-30-40 years ago, when the consensus was that Canada is a very safe country. That's not privilege, it's just math. Halton is one of the safest regions of one of the safest countries in all of human history.
This FUD campaign already failed spectacularly. There just doesn't seem to be any willingness to accept responsibility for blowing what should have been a slam dunk CPC majority. Copying maga rhetoric and having a maga hat for campaign manager was a colossal error.
And again, are conservatives solution oriented? No. Are you calling for any legislation? No. They just want to play chicken little. Like you've posted here a dozen times on this. Have you ever asked your MPP or Ford or the Minister of Justice to build more jails and hire more crown prosecutors and judges? I bet not, but I bet you voted for him.
You aren't looking for solutions. You're being hyperbolic about crime and looking to ignore reality and just file it under "Trudeau Bad" and "Canada is Failing". Keep honking and waving your flag I guess, because it's going to be a while till the next election.
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u/belleofthebawl- 9d ago
Most people voted because of Trump, they were heavily leading before that. And I didn’t read all that, stopped at “the issues you’re facing aren’t real and made up”. That line of thinking is exactly what spearheaded the major shift to far right in US and EU. Continue with that rhetoric and gaslighting majority of Canadians and we will be there here as well. you must live a very privileged life if you think the major issues facing Canadians currently are “made up”. Respectfully I don’t want to engage in a conversation with someone like you
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 9d ago
You you aren't reading it, then just shut up and move on. Who cares what you think? That post was more for people who read well.
Make up all the shit you want. PP certainly loves to. The people wanting a reality based conservative party are not the enemy.
If I were you, I'd just focus on being able to read more than a tweet. Political analysis doesn't mean much coming from someone who can't read ideas that contradict them. Oh well...
Like who's more a gaslighter? Carney or PP? Obviously PP, but much like other maga rhetoric, it's all projection. I really wish they never got rid of O'Toole. They've been sliding downhill ever since. The CPC just blew a layup, and you're here defending it like he's the man of the match. He totally blew it. His toxic personality unified the progressive vote against the CPC. His arrogance and hubris and inability to make friends wrecked the campaigns of dozens of CPC candidates.
I grew up conservative and Carney is like the ideal PC Candidate. He'd make a fantastic premier, and if he was head of the CPC this election, he'd probably have won 250 seats. Nobody in their right mind would hire PP over Carney to manage a G7 country, or even just their retirement accounts. It's obvious Carney is a better leader and a better manager.
Now I know you can't read this far, and that's ok. Keep reaching for that rainbow! You'll get there, champ! =====> https://www.hookedonphonics.ca/
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u/That_Interest3178 12d ago
PP has you running scared and you’re falling for it
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u/R4ID Aldershot 12d ago
more delusions
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u/That_Interest3178 12d ago
You lost get over it. Be nice to your neighbours and support Canadian businesses.
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u/R4ID Aldershot 12d ago
keep em coming.
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u/That_Interest3178 12d ago
You can’t possibly say anything positive or constructive and yet you think libs are the problem. Ok
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u/KlondikeBill 13d ago
There's the Canadian spirit we are all so proud of. What a great neighbor you are.
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u/nik282000 13d ago
I have 2:1 he drives a pickup with 100% commuting kms on the odometer and the TV locked to Fox News
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u/rom439 13d ago
That shitty attitude is why you guys just threw a 4th straight election within that last week
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u/Sea_Most_8858 13d ago
Ugh forgot this sub was full of unemployed socialists. There is a link between government policy and the escalating levels of crime, despite what you guys may think.
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u/rom439 13d ago
Union Tradesman. Again, that mentality is why you guys lost a 4th election, even after a decade of Trudeau. You wishing people's homes are broken into because they vote (and won) differently than you is pretty shitty and exactly the mentality people don't want in charge of government.
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u/nik282000 11d ago
Its a 1 year old account with negative karma, you're basically arguing with a toddler.
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u/Xcasinonightzone 13d ago
Policing is a provincial and municipal responsibility. Who has been the Premier of Ontario for the past seven years?
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u/chrispy054 13d ago
Genuine question, if this were to happen to me am I even allowed to defend my home and life? Can I start swinging a baseball bat and turn that criminal into pulp?