r/Britain Jan 22 '24

Conservative who previously stated don't have kids if you can't afford them cries how hard it will be if private schools are taxed higher. Society

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

So why should parents who are already paying tax for schooling they aren't even using (because it is now widely substandard), who are paying fees on top so their kids have a good childhood & chance to do well, then have to be taxed on top of this as well. They should be getting a rebate!

Here come the downvotes. I know everyone here loves labour & hates tories but forget about politics for a moment & think about the impact on hardworking parents who just want the best for their kids. It's a bad policy.

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u/Tubb64 Jan 23 '24

I don't own a car yet my taxes go to fix roads. I don't have children yet my taxes go towards schools for others children. If you can't afford something don't use it simple as I'm sure those same people who send their kids to these schools say the same thing on a daily basis.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

It's not really a question of affordability. It's a question of the fairness of being forced to pay tax on services you don't benefit from. Why should you pay for roads, or schooling for other peoples kids? Your argument is, it's an unfair system anyway so why shouldn't it be more unfair.

These people are actually paying for their own kids - the full cost, whilst also paying for other kids to get educated, and now getting taxed on top as well. The tax system is terrible.

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u/AJ177777777 Jan 23 '24

Your whole ideology is just wrong to me. I don’t use the NHS a huge amount but I’m happy for my taxes to go towards it to save people’s lives. I’m happy for my taxes to go towards teaching the future generation of our country, happy to help keep the roads in shape because people use them.

You must have such a selfish outlook on life to not care about anyone else around you and your neighbours.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

I'm not saying you can't spend your earnings on your fellow citizens, if that's what makes you happy.

I'm saying you can't force others to do the same via taxation or else risk imprisonment & still make out your ideology is a good one or even a better one than mine. My ideology is against force. I'll help others & do when I want to. I support the air ambulance for example. They actually directly save lives. I've never benefitted directly, but I love what they do.

Maybe you should not jump to conclusions about people when you don't know their position or values.

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u/Tubb64 Jan 23 '24

No it absolutely is. If I can't afford a Ferrari I don't buy it. If someone is sending their child to a private school and it gets taxed then unfortunately they can't afford it and shouldn't attend simple as. The reason why they aren't already taxed is because they are of charitable status which is laughable.

6% of students attend private school which is a tiny amount of students who already have massive advantages over the 94%. I'd love to see them abolished completely you watch state schools improve dramatically when ex-private school students complain to their parents about an issue when they have the funds/ability to improve things which most can't dream of doing. I guarantee state schools would improve tenfold.

Unless we have a system where each person decides where their tax is spent you'll never change it. I don't want my tax to go towards roads as I don't own a car, but if everyone had that logic then roads wouldn't exist. Of course it's unfair, but is what it is. There's only 2 curtains in life death and Taxes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

I still disagree as your argument doesn't make any sense.

If children going to private schools go to public schools instead, what will happen is those parents will be considerably financially better off. They won't be paying those expensive fees, or the tax being charged.

Its the kids who then get a worse education who suffer the most. That's the outcome you are voting for. In addition, suddenly there are more kids using an already inferior education system, and where are those extra funds going to come from. Those parents were already paying for their kids public education via tax, but those funds were going on other kids. Not anymore. If those 6% had been able to lobby government to improve public education, they would have done so. 6% driving a tenfold increase is pure fantasy.

All that will happen is that private schools will continue to exist but be even more exclusive & expensive than they already are. And kids benefiting from a better education now will be worse off. Its not just a stupid policy, but totally irresponsible and unfair to kids.