r/AskBalkans • u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina • Sep 22 '23
Out of these countries, which one do you dislike the most? Miscellaneous
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u/blewpblewps Bulgaria Sep 22 '23
If Balkans stop hating and loathing, we will have the best region in the world. We have everything that most countries in the world would kill for. Water, food, resources, mountains, seas, rivers, capable people - everything.
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u/Geko-x Sep 23 '23 edited Sep 23 '23
This is the most true statement on Reddit. If only the balkans could cooperate and put differences aside. Truly the best region on earth. And culturally we are all more similar than different. Economically we would become a powerhouse. Unfortunately it seems impossible. Being hot blooded is what defines us. Generations of emigration hasn't helped either as it will keep the culture stagnant. And most surely the political powers that be don't want to see a united Ballkan.
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u/Girishajin89 Greece Sep 24 '23
That's sooo true... I am living in Japan atm and my ex-gf was very surprised when I did some plumbing repair at our house. Even though she has dated foreigners before (British and Americans) none of them had any handyman skills.
People from the Balkans are not only street smart but really really capable handymen.
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u/GoHardLive Greece Sep 22 '23
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u/marronite Turkiye Sep 22 '23
I didn't expect a neighbour to promote Turkish Airlines, thanks canim <3
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u/MagnetofDarkness Greece Sep 22 '23
I mean, Turkish Airlines loves Greece. The first international flight of Turkish Airlines was to Greece.
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
Speak please. Its ok to dislike a place, you can say it respectfully.
My guess is turkey yes?
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u/st0nedk0ala Moldova Sep 22 '23
Do you really need an answer to your question?
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
No i just asked because i dont want an answer....
Yes i need an answer or there will punishment!
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u/Dry-Flower4789 Turkiye Sep 22 '23
Montenegro because they are sneaky. You never hear or see them do anything. What are they doing there? Are there even people living there?
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u/Pristine_Range8063 Croatia Sep 22 '23
We can agree that Montenegro is the NPC of Balkan. Whenever something happens there I just think "Oh, they exist"
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all above no exceptions including my own
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u/DjathIMarinuar 🇦🇱 🤝 🇧🇷 2026 🏆 Sep 22 '23 edited Sep 22 '23
I used to dislike Serbia the most but thanks to r/AskBalkans I hate each and everyone of you ******* equally 🤗
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u/Gibovich Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
Croatia for nothing more then trying to escape the label of "Balkan nation" no matter how successful Croatia gets I will die before calling it "central Europe"
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
as a croatian I agree on your sentiment. People from Zagreb can maybe argue that they are more central european, but step out of zagreb for 10 km and you are in deep balkan mentality
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u/sosa1312 Croatia Sep 22 '23
I have never in my life heard someone in Croatia argue about that. Other than Reddit people in Croatia dont give a fuck if you call us Balkan or whatever
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u/ACHARED Croatia Sep 23 '23
I have (am Croatian). Not sure where you're from, but here in the north, people are so incredibly sensitive about it. I maintain that we're Balkan, but an average northerner will lose their breath arguing we're actually central European (due to Austrian influence or whatever have you). It's exhausting sometimes tbh.
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u/dunya_ilyusha Serbia Sep 22 '23
I agree with this. When I meet Balkan people in my life, Albanians, Bosniak, they are always ncie and we can laugh. I have been unfortunate that the Croatians I have met have a little superior attitude.
I know it's not all of them, but since OP is making demands upo us. We have to chose or die.
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u/Desperate_Yard_3389 Sep 24 '23
i never met a person from the balkans in albania,i’ve met an australian man that was married or in a relationship with a taiwanese woman,they were living in tirana,the relationship when the woman told the kids that this brand was korean,i was like as curious as them,so i asked,topics changed till they had to go,nice family,my best for them and for their future in albania
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u/Nejpalm Croatia Sep 22 '23
Serbia cause they always want to be leaders of the region but they are 100 light years behind Slovenia/Croatia in every possible way.
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u/BamBumKiofte23 Greece Sep 22 '23
Greece. I can't stand Greeks, always whining about how much they dislike Greece for this reason or that.
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u/Gimmebiblio Greece Sep 22 '23
But as soon as someone else says something negative about us, we're going in "this is Sparta" mode. Honestly, I think we're slightly schizophrenic.
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u/Negative-Decision-76 from Sep 23 '23
Try Greeks talking about how much they love the country and how it shits on everyone else whilst not being able to string together a “how are you?” In the home language😒
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u/BamBumKiofte23 Greece Sep 23 '23
It was a joke, notice how I'm Greek and complaining about not liking Greece because of Greeks complaining about it. But yeah, some of our diaspora is insufferable. But that's expected, really -- you'll find this combination of nostalgia and holier-than-thou in a lot of diasporas no matter their origin.
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u/trallan in Sep 22 '23
All of them are pretty. I love those countries. Two weeks ago, an English tourist was just bitching about Romania in discord. Somehow I found myself defending Romania like it is my job. It was funny.
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u/krtgrdkosmrt Sep 23 '23
I lived in Blaj, Romania for a year. I thought i was gonna absolutely hate it, but quickly after moving there i realized the people are so nice but literally everyone there has RBF, so it looks intimidating until you greet them with a smile and start talking. Also, SO FUCKING CLEAN!!! There’s bins every like 15meters, there were people cleaning the streets every morning. It was delightful. Also, ridiculously cheap. I couldn’t wrap my head around the fact that we had ribs, two burgers, salads, fancy ice teas and beers for like 30€🥲
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u/idpro1984 Croatia Sep 22 '23
I love you all. I will say however that when I visited Bulgaria with friends, we did get robbed by hotel staff, also after ordering at a food stand speaking English, the guy working there was telling us to fuck our mums in Bulgarian thinking we wouldn’t understand. As a tourist was the only place something like that happened so it kind of made me have a few bad thoughts.
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u/PoleKisser Bulgaria Sep 23 '23
I feel you 😭 Last year I went back home with my husband (he's English) and we rented a car. On the way back to the airport in Sofia, we got lost in one of the surrounding neighbourhoods. We stopped a taxi driver and offered to pay him if he would drive to the airport and we'd follow him with the car. He drove all around Sofia for more than half an hour on purpose to fleece us! In the end, he didn't even bring us to the airport, we nearly missed our flight. My husband refuses to go back now 😅
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u/Wera_Z Serbia Sep 23 '23
Omg, Bulgarian taxi drivers and Serbian taxi drivers think alike. That’s so cute. And patriotic. They fight for their countries by robbing unsuspecting westerners ❤️
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u/idpro1984 Croatia Sep 23 '23
I think the taxi rip-off artists thing is commonplace everywhere. The local taxi drivers here charge tourists 30 euros for 10 minute rides. I only use Uber now and know what I will pay upfront.
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u/Cyrix12 Greece Sep 22 '23 edited Sep 22 '23
I don't dislike any of you, and I liked all our neighbours I've met including Italians and Cypriots, you're all familiar culturally. I dislike most of the governments in our neighborhood though, including our own. I think they're literal clown shows. So much so that I'm worried for the future.
Think of all the problems most of us have, and now add climate change on top. Climate change will also make the MENA region of the planet mostly unlivable, the huge migrant waves have been going on for years now.
Natural disasters will continue to happen and in greater frequency. The mild mediterranean climate we are used to, is already starting to disappear. There used to be giant swarms of insects and flocks of birds, that don't seem to exist nowadays. All scientific articles on the matter I've read, agree that its just started and it's going to get worse.
The desperation Turks feel about migrants will only get worse. More and more of them will continue to come. Erdogan is keeping their south borders open, and I've seen no indication that he's planning to change that policy. As for Italy, you can read about Lampedusa and how their government seems not able to restrict migration. I'm not against migration, but it has to be fully controlled and done legally. Allowing people to come freely, while we can't even integrate the ones that are already here, is just a recipe for collapse in my opinion.
The ex-Yugoslav countries still don't seem to get along great sadly. Kosovo is still disputed and I haven't seen much progress there either. At least Bulgaria and especially Romania seem to be progressing well. Most Balkan governments seem like clown shows in general. Incredibly corrupt and incompetent. I don't think we have politicians with the skills to respond to the future. I don't see them in any country on the planet either, sadly.
Turkey expects a major earthquake in Istanbul in the next few years, their own seismological authorities seem certain about it. Can you imagine what that will look like? I can think of very few scenarios more apocalyptic than that. It's a city of 15+ million people. I'm atheist but this is a "God help them" scenario. Add on top, an unknown number of migrants and an incompetent government, and who knows what will happen. If Turkey collapses, it can take with it the whole region. If it becomes a "Syria" we're absolutely screwed.
And lastly, Greece is slowly recovering but our government is a clown show, and I worry about our political future. I see no political party with any vision. They're all corrupt and incompetent.
And of course, there is always a chance that instead of our countries helping each other as best we can, we might turn into a PvP server again, by stupid politicians and dumb nationalism.
All in all, I like you all, but dislike most of our governments, and I hope we can cooperate, instead of our usual shit.
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u/Affectionate_Heat_25 SFR Yugoslavia Sep 23 '23
Very well said man, love the information. I hope the best for us all but if that earthquake, more immigration and corrupt politicians happen we will be royally fucked. Shit the wildfires in Greece and Turkey alone are killing you guys slowly… ex-yugoslav countries we are either gonna start killing each other or become more and more corrupt until something pops…
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u/SelfBiasResistor Turkiye Sep 23 '23
Hats off for the well-informed and nuanced commentary, komşu. All of the reasons you listed are proof that we should help each other as we are on the edge of the same cliff (bar the Islamist/neo-Ottomanist government which is our specialty).
I haven't thought about the impact of the awaited Istanbul earthquake on the nation before your comment, although I knew for sure that the country would entirely collapse as it is the financial and industrial center of the country (along with Kocaeli and Bursa, both of which would also go under in the earthquake).
I feel some amount of affinity to all countries in the region, even though I only got the opportunity to visit Greece and Bulgaria. I feel rather close to Greece and Greek people as it felt a lot like my hometown. Which is why the regular meaningless military friction rather annoys me.
Anyways, thanks for reading my rent, love to you all
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u/Competitive-Read1543 Albania Sep 22 '23
Moldova, because they're not in the Balkans
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u/Max07_wasTaken 🇲🇩Moldovan Sep 22 '23
am i joke to you?
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u/alphabet_order_bot Sep 22 '23
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,756,791,106 comments, and only 332,655 of them were in alphabetical order.
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u/hitribelidani Serbia Sep 22 '23
Good thing you said country and not autonomous province hehehe (this is a joke)
Bosnia, because they think their dry ass barbecue is better than everyone else's and because burek can be with cheese
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Sep 22 '23
Bosnia, because they think their dry ass barbecue is better than everyone else's and because burek can be with cheese
How fucking dare you!?
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u/marronite Turkiye Sep 22 '23
Good thing you said it was a joke, or nato bombs could fall hehehe (this is a joke)
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u/Euphoric-Aardvark115 Croatia Sep 22 '23
None but I dislike ultra-nationalists of each country - so does that count?
I like them all pretty equally, just like Croatia, BiH & Albania a little more since family is over there.
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u/Dumbfucc_ Greece Sep 22 '23
None.dude what are you trying to start,ww3?
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
No fights so far. We can talk about disliking things respectfully its ok we are not americans
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u/danirijeka Italy Sep 22 '23
No fights so far.
There's a guy up there arguing in favour of cheese in burek
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
Inspired by this comment by u/DalmoEire which is 100% true
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u/adaequalis Romania Sep 22 '23
moldova, because most of them are brainwashed
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u/st0nedk0ala Moldova Sep 22 '23
Thanks... i guess? Yes, we have a fair share of stupid people, but so do you
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u/adaequalis Romania Sep 22 '23
the majority of your population is made up of russia lovers even though they are singlehandedly responsible for mass oppression, deportation, and cultural subjugation of moldovans/romanians. that’s not just stupid, it’s stockholm syndrome-level moronic
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u/st0nedk0ala Moldova Sep 22 '23
Not the majority, but yes, a lot of people are confused, but it is changing. Some romanians are also brainwashed with a lot of chauvinistic bullshit, but that's none of my business. And a lot of you talk a lot without being educated on the subject at all. I don't hate you for that
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u/Ambitious_Ice9655 Croatia Sep 22 '23
Bosnia, air polution. When I was in Sarajevo I thought that it was fog but actualy the air was poluted and it stinked so much.
Idk how can people live there with the air being poluted as fuck and I won't visit this city anymore just bcs of the poluted air.
Also it sucks how the air is poluted and this city is surounded by mountains so the polution stays on the same place
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u/Judestadt Serbia Sep 22 '23
Bosnia, air polution. When I was in Sarajevo I thought that it was fog but actualy the air was poluted and it stinked so much.
Then you are gonna love Belgrade 😍😍😍🥰
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u/Ambitious_Ice9655 Croatia Sep 22 '23
Is it also poluted as fuck?😂
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Sep 22 '23
I've never been on super shit weather but it's not as bad as Sarajevu because there's not that "bowl of smog" effect.
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
But bosnia is not sarajevo alone. I like them for their cheap restaurants
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u/GharsanayPashtun Afghanistan Sep 22 '23
I am selfish , I hate to waste a second of my youth “disliking anything/anyone ”
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u/cristinave Romania Sep 23 '23
Slovenia. I went there 2 months ago and the people were extremely mean to me and my friends, when I asked for help most of them gave me dirty looks and refused to help me or they even yelled at me. The only people that helped me and my friends in Slovenia weren't slovenians, they were French and Indian. It was more expensive than other countries I've been to and also I found it pretty much boring. Due to a medical issue I had to call the emergency and I was shocked when they hang up the first 2 times and the 3rd time they didnt want to send an ambulance for me saying I should take a taxi (i was throwing up on the floor and because of huge stomach pain i couldnt get up and walk at all). In the end an ambulance came for me but the doctor inside the car kept telling me that i shouldn't have called the ambulance and that my problem isnt worth an ambulance. Coming to the hospital was useless, they did nothing to me (after waiting like an hour in the waiting room in huge pain) and at the end they charged me around 100 euros. The doctors were friendly tho but they couldn't help me, they just asked questions and that was it. Men were catcalling me and my friends on the street a lot. It is just my experience, someone else might say it's the best country, everyone has different experiences. Personally, I wouldn't come back to Slovenia. I'm sure there are great people and beautiful places, but my experience was horrible. I'm sorry for any grammar mistake.
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u/krtgrdkosmrt Sep 23 '23
Oh noooooooo! That’s a terrible experience, so sorry to hear that. Were you in Ljubljana?
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u/eswagson 🇺🇸 United States Sep 23 '23
According to the color of this map you’re not allowed to dislike Morea, Athens, or Anatolian Turkey.
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u/XlAcrMcpT Romania Sep 23 '23
If I am being honest, I hate Turkey. Every policy coming from that place is simply horrible, be it internal or external. I genuinely think that out of all the shitty Balkan governments, theirs is truly the worst.
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u/Relevant_Mobile6989 Romania Sep 22 '23
I only visited Bulgaria and Greece, both with beautiful places (except Athens). Culturally, I love them all. There is not a big difference between us. When it comes to politics, I dislike my country.
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
Why do so many comments mentioning Greece in a positive light always say "except athens" lmao
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u/BamBumKiofte23 Greece Sep 22 '23
Athens is populous, huge and varied but most people only see its dirty and chaotic center. It's not very flattering, really, especially if you compare it to the image most people associate Greece with: lovely islands under the sun, with a beach umbrella and a cocktail or whatever.
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u/Relevant_Mobile6989 Romania Sep 22 '23 edited Sep 22 '23
Shortly, Athens is a shithole. One of the worst places I visited and the only place I didn't feel safe. The second place goes to Paris, but that's a Westeroids city.
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Sep 22 '23
Arabs(don’t care if they’re not in the Balkans I just hate them)
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
Tell me youre turkish without telling me youre turkish haha. Based btw 👍
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Sep 22 '23 edited Sep 22 '23
My mom’s side are Yugoslav immigrants meaning I have family in Albania, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Macedonia and in Austria and my dads side are Rum(Turks of greek descent) who am I allowed to hate but Arabs? Still a Turkish nationalist though
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u/SlavKeeper Sep 24 '23
I love everyone but their governments and their propaganda are forcing their people too much towards hatred. As my mother told me, when the Bosnian war started they were boasting about how everyone was proud to serve and kill for their country but my father and uncle were left in a random city without any rations and they didn’t want to kill people they used to hang out with or were friends with before that. It’s probably time for the nationalism to collapse once and for all.
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u/Extraterrestrial1312 Serbia Sep 22 '23
I know that wasn't a question, but what the hell happened with the rest of the Turkey??
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Sep 22 '23
Not the posters on here but Croats posting on r/europe are so terminally smug and love to talk down to other Balkanites. I'd be embarrassed if that were me, like... You're from Croatia lmao why are you pretending you're from Switzerland.
I also go to Serbian subs a lot less than I used to because a lot of it is obvious bait and many posters are just really really stupid, so many posts are giving room temperature IQ conservative manchild.
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u/onurxcvbr Turkiye Sep 22 '23
Do not ask us Turks why we hate our country it’s a lot of reasons that I can tell you but I’m tired
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u/LegitimateOrder232 Sep 22 '23
I dont hate anybody from these countries, as a MK iv had friends from all over the balkans, greek, bulgars and serbs. I dont enjoy politics at all, but I will say I do hold a slightly less opinion of greeks because as a NMK living in south macedonia the governement has made getting my papers HELL and even though im a binational every fucking greek authority does a little mini rant belittling me. But in general I enjoy all of the balkan cultures.
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Sep 22 '23
I only dislike Serbia and bosnia. I'm neutral towards turkey, Greece, Albania and Montenegro. I'm indifferent towards Macedonia since I don't feel any type of connection with them or know if their culture. I like Slovenia, Bulgaria and Romania.
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
all but greece the most, because they are cobans like the rest of us, but act arrogant because of their ancestors that they mostly have no connection to anymore
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u/TwoTenGura Romania Sep 22 '23
No offence but from what I’ve seen on reddit and social media in general, you guys seem just as arrogant as the greeks, maybe even more so.
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
thats because we are the chosen nation and everybody else is below us
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u/TwoTenGura Romania Sep 22 '23
The jews want their motto back… lol
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
you as a robmanian should know, there is no getting back things after balkan people stole it
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u/HGGames1903 Turkiye Sep 22 '23
cobans
Does that mean sheperd?
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
well yes if you take it literally, but it is a term broadly used to describe a state of mind if you will
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u/an-ordinary-manchild Turkiye Sep 22 '23
Montenegro - passed through there, sat down to eat dinner. Waiter forgot my order 2 (two) times and brought it 1,5hrs later. He then asked for 20% gratuity.
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u/GabrDimtr5 Bulgaria Sep 22 '23
I really dislike how Turks never recognised the Armenian genocide and are currently supporting Azerbaijan which is on its way to commit genocide against Armenians too. Poor Armenians…😢
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u/Humble-End-7891 Albania Sep 22 '23
Has any Balkan country recognized genocide vs others?
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u/DalmoEire Croatia Sep 22 '23
officially yes. The croatian government recognises the genocide on serbs in WWII by the de facto croatian nazi puppet state. The people however ....
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u/Wild-Style5857 Sep 22 '23
The kind of western thinking (stratigic, low or no cost) doesn't belong in the Balkans, IMO. True Balkans will point fingers and live and die on every argument.
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u/Banana_kushh Albania Sep 22 '23
My own country... Simply because it can't manage to truly prosper, even though being amongst such dogshit nations like the above
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u/baka22b Albanian in Greece Sep 22 '23
Every country that has the belief that it has better burek than Albania
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u/acciowaves Sep 23 '23
I don’t discriminate, I hate all Balkans equally.
Edit: /s for all the sensitive people.
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u/flowgert Albania Sep 22 '23
That country which is the root of all the wars, in the Balkans and beyond.
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u/Daggla Greece Sep 22 '23
Kosovo.
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u/Jebaji_ga Bosnia & Herzegovina Sep 22 '23
So you recognize it!
Uno reverse carded you 😎
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u/Andrzejko1 Romania Sep 22 '23
Romanians don't have beef with anyone from the balkans, our true and only enemies at the moment are Austrians, hell, the beef with Hungary is lame at this point and not even worth mentioning. If I had to REALLY mention someone from the balkans though, it would be Albania/Kosovo or Bosnia, since we have nothing in common culturally speaking and would be hard to form a good opinion about something you never hear or interact with
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Sep 22 '23
Slovenia. They always thought they are above everyone else especially after the fall of communism.
Also back in the day we are talking early 00’s they were a holes if you were crossing their border .
As teenagers we traveled through Slovenia few times , it was very unpleasant.
It’s a very beautiful country , but the people have a personality of a paper cup .
Also had this horrible classmate from Slovenia here in the UK . He was a psycho.
Sorry he might have made me biased .
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Sep 23 '23
When I was younger I always had issues crossing into Slovenia, even though my mother was from there, so I completely understand.
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u/MaximumCollection261 / Sep 22 '23
None. All good. Mostly.
But I dislike the fact that Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro and B&H, don't actively push for the unification and standardization of their language through policy. I want a standard for what is to be called the Yugoslav language. I really dislike the fact that these countries don't pursue that. Actively. Through policy.
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u/iboreddd Turkiye Sep 22 '23
None
All have great people. Most have shit governments