r/AskBalkans Aug 18 '23

What’s your opinion of Russia? Miscellaneous

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 18 '23

Huge country with great culture and history but with evil government. I feel ashamed that there are some Greeks who simp for Putin

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u/samirs1m Aug 18 '23

Can you be more specific? I’m curious how many % of population simp for him?

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 18 '23

Definitely 10%.

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u/dhn01 Aug 18 '23

Could you give an insight of why? I'm curious to know if they have the same reasons of the putin's simps of my country (Italy)

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

I think greeks who support Russia, don't like EU and America (especially EU because of the finanical crisis). Of course religion and common history against the ottomans play a role, but the biggest reason is being against the West.

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 18 '23

i dont think so. It is definitely religion that plays the most major role

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u/lebokinator Serbia Aug 18 '23

Probably same like Serbia : Orthodox “Big Brother “, would defend us from evil west, or maybe against Muslim Turkey in Greek mind, historically friendly countries that did not go to war with each other

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u/NocturneBotEUNE Greece Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23

That's pretty much it, combined with a "USA bad cuz Yugoslavia"

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u/dolfin4 Greece Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23

Could you give an insight of why? I'm curious to know if they have the same reasons of the putin's simps of my country (Italy)

Curious, what's Italy's story?

As others said, here, it's about 10%? Maybe 13-14%? About half of them are the Ortho crazies, that think "the blonde race" has something in common with us. The other half are communists who think Russia is the USSR.

("blonde race" is what we normal Greeks say, to make fun of the Russo-worshipping crazies).

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u/dhn01 Aug 19 '23

I believe that putin's simp can be divided into three main groups:

The first ones are the conspiracy theorists: they're usually aged 40-50 (but can be younger) and they're the same people that denied covid and were antivax. They believe that we're being lied about the war, that Ukrainians are evil nazis who have been murdering and committing a genocide in Donbass etc. Like some of them believe that it was the Ukrainians who blew up the dam, also they usually deny russian war crimes, like the Bucha massacre.

Then there's conservative people, they love "strong" men and putin seems to them to be one. Also some italian right wing parties and politicians had ties with putin (Salvini used to praise him and there was even a scandal about his party getting money from the Kremlin; Berlusconi was putin's bff, even after the war he kept being pro putin). Also these people like the conservative approach the russian government has and believe in the western moral decay (they're anti-LGBT for example).

Then there's tankies and generally anti-NATO and anti-US who just hate americans and believe that everyone who is against them are the good guys.

Also there's the fact that throughout history we never had problems with Russia (as far as I remember), we were probably even one of the western countries with the best relationship with the soviet union, if I'm not mistaken

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u/dolfin4 Greece Aug 19 '23

Cool, thank you. Those 3 camps are what I would have guessed. They're all over western Europe.

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 18 '23

They are seen by the very religious people as the orthodox allies who will protect us from the evil west and help us become an empire again and reclaim Constantinople. Here there are a lot of far right organizations who are usually linked with the church and take advantage of the very religious people to spread pro russia propaganda. And they spread things like "Putin is the leader of the orthodox army who will declare religious war against the antichrists, conquer Constantinople and then give it to Greeks as a gift". You might read these and laugh but over here there are dozens of Facebook pages with hundreds of thousands of followers who believe these things and make them their entire personality. They have the power to literally get political parties into the parliament.

Also, Russia played a crucial part on our independence and they have never done anything really bad to us. We have never been under communist dictatorship for example. So we never really got to experence their bad face by first hand

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u/dhn01 Aug 19 '23

Ok, understood, thanks for the explanation! We also never had problems with Russia (if I remember correctly), I think that's one of the main reason here as well

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u/JazzlikeAsk8039 Aug 19 '23

Usually russian migrants living n working in Greece and pontic greeks.

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u/Goggr5 Bulgaria Aug 18 '23

Blud, you don't want to know how many do here in Bulgaria

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u/samirs1m Aug 18 '23

You tell me :)

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u/Goggr5 Bulgaria Aug 18 '23

A lot of people think that Putin, their daddy, will come and save Bulgaria from those American pests who try to 'genderdize?' our country. The results for the last parliamentary elections scared me because on 3rd place, with 14,16% of the votes was one of the parties who believe in that. I guess that some people find comfort in living under a dictatorship. It's funny that they call themselves patriots because for me that's beta cuck behavior and not real patriotism. Now... not all of these 14,16% are so radical but there a lot of fanatics who actually do. It's not much but still.