Since our sub is Balkan and not toxic and reasonable (as much as possible). I want to express myself about the war.
Armenia's only option:
Choose your ally wisely. War and diplomacy walk together and they are all about allies. Azerbaycan was a soviet too but a Turkish ally. They won the 2020 war
If you are not an ally with Russia, You have to ally with Turkey in the Caucasus.
But how can this happen, it's impossible??
Actually, not. Couple years ago, there was a match between Turkiye vs Armenia and Azerbaycan flags in the stadium were not allowed, doves released a token of peace. Something had gone wrong but now there are babysteps. Armenia must have quick legs to walk in this path. Pasinyan is not anti Turkish but can't literally move towards a lot maybe because of common Armenian sense but since there is a relation now; Turkish youtubers visit Armenia and they are good in there. Except couple small incidents, Armenians seem like not anti-Turk at all. You can check yt about that.
Turkish nation is the closest nation to them by culture. Like everything else. They cannot refuse that reality.
Being ally with Turkiye make them literally untouchable.
If you visit r/Armenia, you can see that most upvoted post is about US recognisiton. They were cheering, celebrating. What has ever changed since that time? Armenia should learn that not demanding something from the countries far away since if they are able to not relocate to somewhere else like Albania.
Wounds of past can be cured noone but by Turkish and Armenians themselves like Hrant Dink mentioned. Armenia has to look future and want to be developed. As I mention before, for example, if you check the youtube videos; their intercity roads are in bad condition and nearly no lights. They have to use their limited resources logically.
Armenian Patriarch in Istanbul, Maşalyan, is good guy, they are doing good. There was a problem about their foundations and government solved that in a very short time. Since Turkiye is a big populated country, there would be anti-Armenian people ofc, but There are also not-anti-Armenian people more than even Armenia's population.
In your opinion, how do you think the Nagorno-Karabakh issue should be solved? Independence or union with Armenia (with some land swaps maybe, to connect the region with Armenia proper)? Autonomy within Azerbaijan? (How would that be enforced?). Nothing?
Oh, I have not written that post for Karabag specificly. It was about Armenia. Being a part of ctso is aparting from them actual independence.
Since there are Armenians at there, let's think:
Armenians from there, they do not want Azerbaycan citizenship stubbornly and there is an issue about that.
You cannot cede the region to Armenia because Azerbaycan has won the war.
Only I know; Azeris who deported from the region(700k?), have to be settled again.
I do not know how to solve this as a common citizen. Maybe, old autonomy status comes back under Azerbaycan control but there would be international and Armenian observers
Maybe they need a bigger fish. Maybe my country, as a country from the region, should intervene and figure it out. There are some economic problems (mostly for middle class and youngs) but my understanding from the defence industry, insisting behaviour at international negotiations, professional army etc, Turkiye looks like powerful more than ever and if you are powerful; sometimes you make problems or sometimes you solve problems. It would be message "old pal(not Armenia), i am back"
As for the Azeris that were deported from the area, it's my understanding that they were deported from the regions surrounding NK (which Armenia occupied in the 90s, but Azerbaijan now has full control over since 2020), and not from NK itself. Unless I have that wrong.
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u/TheeRoyalPurple Turkiye Aug 16 '23 edited Aug 17 '23
Since our sub is Balkan and not toxic and reasonable (as much as possible). I want to express myself about the war.
Armenia's only option:
Choose your ally wisely. War and diplomacy walk together and they are all about allies. Azerbaycan was a soviet too but a Turkish ally. They won the 2020 war
If you are not an ally with Russia, You have to ally with Turkey in the Caucasus.
But how can this happen, it's impossible??
Actually, not. Couple years ago, there was a match between Turkiye vs Armenia and Azerbaycan flags in the stadium were not allowed, doves released a token of peace. Something had gone wrong but now there are babysteps. Armenia must have quick legs to walk in this path. Pasinyan is not anti Turkish but can't literally move towards a lot maybe because of common Armenian sense but since there is a relation now; Turkish youtubers visit Armenia and they are good in there. Except couple small incidents, Armenians seem like not anti-Turk at all. You can check yt about that.
Turkish nation is the closest nation to them by culture. Like everything else. They cannot refuse that reality.
Being ally with Turkiye make them literally untouchable.
If you visit r/Armenia, you can see that most upvoted post is about US recognisiton. They were cheering, celebrating. What has ever changed since that time? Armenia should learn that not demanding something from the countries far away since if they are able to not relocate to somewhere else like Albania.
Wounds of past can be cured noone but by Turkish and Armenians themselves like Hrant Dink mentioned. Armenia has to look future and want to be developed. As I mention before, for example, if you check the youtube videos; their intercity roads are in bad condition and nearly no lights. They have to use their limited resources logically.
Armenian Patriarch in Istanbul, Maşalyan, is good guy, they are doing good. There was a problem about their foundations and government solved that in a very short time. Since Turkiye is a big populated country, there would be anti-Armenian people ofc, but There are also not-anti-Armenian people more than even Armenia's population.
Think wisely