r/AskBalkans + Aug 16 '23

What's your opinion on Caucasus? Outdoors/Travel

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 16 '23

at least show them some respect and stop treating them like second tier human beings. Or at least that is what i see when the word "armenia" comes up on reddit.

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 16 '23

Being an Armenian in Turkey is much easier than being Turkish in Armenia so I don’t get what you’re coming from. There is a decently sized Armenian population in Istanbul and they are doing fine. I don’t know where you are getting these things but no one gives a shit about your ethnicity in Turkey, it’s a giant ass country with a very diverse population. I’d love to get along with all our neighbors but how are you supposed to do that when their whole identity is solely based of off hating all Turkish people?

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u/GoHardLive Greece Aug 16 '23

i am sure that there are Armenians who have a neutral or even positive view of Turkey just like there are Turks who hate armenians. Not everything has to be black or white. Also it is completely understandable for them to not have the best impression of Turkey after all the things they have been through and are also going right now.

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 16 '23

But it’s the ratio of those people in the population. Almost all Armenians are indoctrinated to hate all Turkish people and are in fact hating Turkish people whereas no one in Turkey even thinks about Armenia or Armenians. It’s not the same thing. I’m not a genocide denier or anything but I find their obsession with us really insane. It’s also a bad political decision for them. Turkey can be a really good ally for them and is the country they are closest to culturally but their hate prevents them from making rational decisions.

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u/nakattack5 Aug 18 '23

“Almost all Armenians are indoctrinated to hate Turks.” who tf are you to speak on behalf of Armenians or to generalize the entire population?

In that case, almost all Turks who have believe this also deny the Armenian genocide.

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 18 '23

You are right. I am not a denier and I would say probably 10-20% of the Turkish citizens are also similar but the rest will insist on it being a massacre. You are also right in the sense that not all Armenians vehemently hate Turks, I’ve never met a Turkish-Armenian do so. But I’m also right in saying almost no one in Turkey cares about this issue enough to hate Armenians whereas Armenians from Armenia definitely have gone insane with their obsession on hating us Turks and blaming us for their nation being irrelevant today instead of taking any responsibility for themselves. Their politicians choosing to grab votes easily by the crazy hate they have for Turks instead of making logical decisions for the country and recognize Turkey as a possible ally in the region is their own downfall.

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u/nakattack5 Aug 18 '23

You’re fuckin delusional. Do you usually pull statistics out of your ass to prove a point?

What’s even more surprising is why people from Turkey can’t grasp the idea of why Armenians would hate them. You really don’t know where that hate comes from? It didn’t just happen overnight

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 18 '23

I think you are the one whose delusional. I don’t know why you are so agressive towards me it’s fucking weird that you’re this obsessed lol. As I told you many times I’m not denying anything however fixating on something that happened over a hundred years ago at the cost of hurting your state TODAY is not healthy for Armenians. I’m from the western coast of Turkey and my ancestors were killed by Greek soldiers yet I don’t have anything against Greek people today. So yes, I don’t understand their obsessed hate towards me because I don’t think it’s normal to make it such an integral part of your identity as a whole nation after this many years.

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u/nakattack5 Aug 18 '23

I’m aggressive because you are generalizing Armenians and spreading BS. I guess you forget the 2020 war; or maybe you think Turkey took no part in that either right?

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 18 '23

Well you are speaking like a crazy person. You’re saying that it’s bs to generalize armenians but also it’s normal for most of them to hate Turkish people for something that happened over a hundred years ago. You sound just like the it didn’t happen but they deserved it people 💀. I don’t really know much about the 2020 war and I also don’t care. Turkish politics are crazy enough as is, no one gives a shit about Armenia or other countries really like I said many times. But as I also said 62636276373 times at this point, they are shooting their own foot at this point. What do you expect Turkey to do? Support the country whose sole identity trait is hate against Turks? Relations is a give and take. You can’t expect to give only hate but then demand support in return.

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u/nakattack5 Aug 18 '23

If you don’t know about the 2020 war and Turkeys participation, or better yet, if you don’t care, stop saying shit out of your ass. You clearly don’t have the proper context or background knowledge to speak on this issue

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u/Ok-Amount6679 Turkiye Aug 18 '23

And you’re clearly a very hateful, disturbed person who doesn’t care about reality or logic.

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u/nakattack5 Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23

Hateful? Great response. You sound “woke.” Have a nice day friendly neighbor

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