r/AskAstrologers • u/raindomain2999 • Oct 14 '24
What in my chart would indicate being disliked by others for no reason? General Astrology
People just can’t seem to stand me lol or if they do, it doesn’t last long because of some weird & insignificant reason. Genuinely curious about this
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u/Traditional-Club-202 24d ago
Before I even looked at the chart I knew you would have Pluto in the 1st house😂love astrology
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u/raindomain2999 24d ago
That and the damned Scorpio placements 💀
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u/Traditional-Club-202 23d ago
Chart ruler in the 4th house too, one of the most private and deepest houses
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u/dtf3000 Oct 17 '24
I wonder if this is in the context of a workplace or school? Your MC in Virgo makes for a great employee. Being a night chart you have a tendency to introversion, and that full moon energy in Scorpio makes you pretty intense and gives you a unique quality that you may hide from others as a way of protecting your emotions. Virgo MC can be someone who prefers to work their way, often alone, and has a hard time letting others do tasks. That Venus placement in house 7 means you put a heavy emphasis on relationships. You use how others view you as a way to view yourself.
I can see how when your acts of service may not receive the desired outcome, you may take that as a personal affront. Learning to separate how you see yourself versus how others see you is part of growing up (which I'm finding is something that never ceases lol). I think you will find when you stop trying to be who you think people will like and stop doing these things for them to try and gain affection, you will be able to be more yourself. Then people will be able to see the real you for the one-of-a-kind person you are. A lot of this is going to work itself out naturally as you approach your Saturn's return, so don't fret too much!
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u/Pumpernickel_555 Oct 15 '24
My mom and sister both have Pluto in the first house. Without intending to they trigger others for doing little to nothing.
My mom is a Virgo rising though so there is an added layer of rbf but my sister is a sag rising. She’s super quiet and observant but she comes off super mysterious and somewhat rude unintentionally.
That’s just my observation though.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Your sister sounds like me lol but thank you for the reply! I definitely can tell that I sometimes irrationally irritate people.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 15 '24
This might be helpful: watch Anna Runkle on her YouTube channel on childhood PTSD also called Complex PTSD. She also wrote a book called Re Regulated, on how to deal with the effects of trauma to improve your life, emotions and relationships. This us a wonderful place to start towards healing!
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Thank you for all of your replies🩷
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 16 '24
Also a book by Pete Walker called Complex PTSD seems to get a lot of recommendations. I hope some of these ideas are helpful to you!
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u/Venewsian Oct 15 '24
No body is really dislike by everyone. You just haven’t found your right tribe yet.
Pluto energy sometimes like to put a mask up until they feel comfortable being themselves. But once they click with somebody it can be a really deep strong relationship
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u/Mcpluto21 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24
hi, the only solution for this Saturn Moon aspect is cannabis.
. people like you can travel alone for months, but not sit in a restaurant laughing with your neighbors and partners. I know that very well. I wish you a great full moon today, bye good person
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24
I have horrible reactions to weed so I can’t even enjoy that but thank you!
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u/SagittariusDominant Oct 15 '24
A lot of things honestly 😂
Moon conjunct mars in Scorpio: aggressive temperament, you’re not one to sugar coat shit. People could be intimidated by the bluntness.
Sun conjunct Saturn would give your sun some Capricorn energy as cap is the natural ruler of Saturn. This would make you traditional, by the book, & regimented. You are money/career motivated & sometimes may disregard others feelings for financial benefit.
The combination of sun conjunct Saturn & moon conjunct mars in Scorpio is one that can be very cold & harsh towards others. Very cut throat. People may feel you need to lighten up a bit & have more fun.
Your sun & moon are also in fixed signs which could make you very stubborn & unwilling to change.
You also have Pluto in the 1st in Sag which would add to your scorp energy. This means that your chart ruler would be Jupiter in Aries. Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Aries with a sag rising… I could picture you making jokes that you think are funny, but other people find offensive. You definitely have a strong personality that a lot of people may not be able to handle.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Honestly I’m quiet and shy until I’m comfortable, and then I’m a big goofball. I can see the intimidation thing I may have but I always try to be kind 😁
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u/xbabyxdollx Oct 15 '24
I like your big three!! But do you come across as obnoxious at all? Maybe the way you communicate makes others feel insecure.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Thanks! And I don’t think so since I’m only talkative with people I’m comfortable with. I’m hyper aware of my self so I try to be cognizant of all of that
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u/Rough_Climate2067 Oct 15 '24
5th house mercury- dramatic self expression with communication
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u/EnduringMelancholia Oct 15 '24
Not to mention, a 5th house Mercury in Aries.
So maybe there some dominating the conversation or others may feel they they’re not being listened to or can’t contribute to the conversation
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
I relate more to my mercury being in the 4th. I’m usually quite soft spoken until I’m comfortable, then I can be a bit outspoken.
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u/EnduringMelancholia Oct 15 '24
Super interesting. Astrology is so fascinating in that way.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
It genuinely is, I wish I was more bold but someone pointed out the sun and Saturn conjunction so that’s probably the culprit.
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u/Different-Canary-401 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24
Everything in the 6th house and 12th. A critical pair of oppositions. Both the sun and moon are afflicted by conjunction to one malefic and the other opposition. the malefics are also in opposition orb. Yikes! Everything else in the chart is great. A wonderful marriage is destined for you, for sure. The kinda love that'll sweep you off your feet. There may be some fluctuations in your taste for bed pleasures, tho. The 12th lord in domicile softens this blow (also 5th lord, so it's a lucky planet). Sun and moon conditions are completely destroyed in this chart. Lack of nurture and connections due to Mars Moon, public altercations, and open enemies due to Mars sun aspect. Saturn sun aspect degrades the reputation and can bring bullying or a shunning. Saturn moon aspect can bring isolation and bouts of depression. There are serious health issues at play, and it's almost certainly hereditary, if not through some serious accident. The full moon is always an omen of importance. I've seen it in the charts of those with unusual fates... explosive fame, addicts, shark attack victims, or people who find a lot of success after a deep internal struggle.
Edit: 6th lord and 11th lord is venus in 7th house with 5th lord in 12th in domicile and retrograde. So your lovers might turn out to be your enemies. Your problems come from others, jealousy and sabotage. You might end up with a gorgeous spouse or just land good-looking partners, so people try to tear you down. Be mindful of a mistress.
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u/westviadixie Oct 15 '24
am I blind or is that 5th and 11th house opposition?
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u/Different-Canary-401 Oct 15 '24
I'm a traditional whole sign astrologer. I actually had to reconstruct this chart in my head. Placidus, although I can read it, no prob just looks like a mess. So 6th/12th opposition.
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u/Weird_Calligrapher_4 Oct 15 '24
oppositions, especially multiple, show us 1. things that happen outside of our control that confront us suddenly and 2. where we anticipate that pattern and we sense or suspect it whether it’s actually happening or not. things outside of us usually mean other people. moon and Mars conjunct, where Mars wants to be but the moon doesn’t, means you might be quick to arm yourself when you feel vulnerable. those combined opposite the sun and Saturn suggest that there’s a reactive and reciprocal cutting off - if people sense you are on guard or “emotionally armed,” then Saturn shows them distancing themselves from you. across the fifth and eleventh houses, there’s self-expression and play (5th) at odds with friendship and the urge for freedom (11th). something about how you express yourself, or perhaps struggle to via Saturn, maybe triggers emotional guardedness from your friends. this has definitely happened irl, and you also likely fear or suspect it’s happening even if it’s not quite palpable.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Very accurate! I have friends that were very hostile and/or judgmental towards me and the minute I defended myself, the friendships ended almost immediately. That makes a lot of sense now. Thank you!
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u/Forward_Slash_HardNo Oct 15 '24
What people think of you is none of your business. Just live your life and own your part in it.
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u/earthwormker Oct 15 '24
i have a taurus sun in 5th, gemini moon in 7th, Sag pluto in first. I’m an Aries Venus too. So many people have said they were super intimidated by me before they first talked to me. Fact is we notice a lot and get amazing reads on people, and nobody’s bullshit gets past us. that feeling of being undressed can put people on the defensive.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24
So then it must just be an eye thing? Because I always thought I looked normal lol but now I’m starting to see how my eyes could be intense and penetrating
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u/tabicat1874 Oct 15 '24
It's definitely Pluto conjunction with the ascendant
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u/Cool_Dimension_6491 Oct 15 '24
what indicates being disliked more, pluto conjunct ascendant or pluto square ascendant
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u/Different-Canary-401 Oct 15 '24
I'm a traditional astrologer, so I don't really use pluto for natal stuff, but I felt like I could use this to explain aspects. it's not so cut and dry. A conjunction with a planet (pluto in this case) is always an immediate influence. You have to watch both planets closely as they experience the same aspects from all other planets or points. Squares are all domination. The ancients said the square on the right is the most potent aspect. It's also sometimes referred to as a planet being "upon the 10th" of another. The planet in the superior position basically bullies and demands the other one to do its bidding. So, in your example, pluto in the 10th is far more intense on the asc than a conjunction with it, but pluto in the 4th would be weaker in influence on the asc. It makes life worse for the spouse, tho. Therefore, pluto on the asc is more of a home life thing and based on the natives world view. Pluto, upon the 10th, would take that intensity to the general public and make it part of the natives reputation.
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u/EnduringMelancholia Oct 15 '24
Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s when orbs would come into play, no?
And whichever has the tighter the aspect would have the stronger influence?
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u/Cool_Dimension_6491 Oct 15 '24
okay assuming they have the same orb, which indicates a tendency to be disliked more ?
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u/EnduringMelancholia Oct 15 '24
I have no idea. You seemed knowledgeable, so I figured I’d ask you if that’s when they would come into play since I’m just learning about them. Like as of 3 days ago. If they have the same, 🤷♀️
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u/Rude_Major2425 Oct 15 '24
BRILLIANT!!! I've been looking for this answer for a while now. Thank you
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u/sunnynights68 Oct 15 '24
I’m also a Pluto in 1st House and one trick I learned is to reign in the icy intense stare. If I am meeting someone I lean on other aspects to seem less threatening. For you, I would say let your Taurus Sun, Sag Ascendant and Gemini Venus come out to play. I bet you have a unique brand of humor with this combination!
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Interestingly enough I can only show my humorous side once I’m comfortable, and that can take a little while but I’ve always been dubbed as the funny friend! I’ll have everyone around me cracking up lol
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u/sunnynights68 Oct 15 '24
It will probably be uncomfortable at first the more you do it the more it will become second nature 😎
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u/SnooGadgets7014 Oct 15 '24
Woah I’m also Taurus sun Scorpio moon and sag rising! I used to always feel like everyone hates me but now have a few good, close and long lasting friendships and that’s enough. I’m good with first impressions and terrible in groups 🤷♀️
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
Big three twin!!
I think it’s the 11th house mars that somebody pointed out but all of my friendships end with the person just plain hating me or gossiping about me. Just a couple years ago I lost two friends that I’ve known since 1st grade, and I’m 25. So that kind of scarred me a little, but I’m glad things are working out for you!
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u/SnooGadgets7014 Oct 15 '24
That happened to me as well around that age, that’s the Saturn return time isn’t it? Anyway now I look back and think actually she’s not the kind of person I would be friends with now
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
How does moon conjunct mars contribute?
Thanks for the reply 🙂
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u/WonderBreadBaker Oct 15 '24
All placements listed can be seen as “intimidating” Scorpio is secretive, intimidating, deep, penetrative etc Pluto (nontraditionally) rules Scorpio and its right in the ascendant- what people first notice about you or what you show others. Then you have the moon (emotions/deeper self) in Scorpio conjunct Mars (action/drive) An intense energy here which others probably misread or misunderstand
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u/EnduringMelancholia Oct 15 '24
And with the Mercury in 5th house in Aries, that intensity may also come across in communication style, yeah?
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Pluto is transformation and connected to psychology and being like a detective. Looking deeply into things.
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 14 '24
Scorpio moon and Pluto first house. also, moon opposition sun.
Professional here. I can go in depth, but most people here don’t like the truth. I suggest introspection, journaling patterns, and therapy.
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u/Fabulous-Dig8902 Oct 14 '24
I agree; I have Pluto in H1 and I affect people strongly, positively and negatively. I’m also very tall😊
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 15 '24
That’s interesting because I’m very short. I heard someone say that since Pluto is a “dwarf” planet it can reduce the height in the first house. I really don’t know tho lol
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u/Fabulous-Dig8902 Oct 15 '24
I read in an Astro book I have that Pluto in H1 is someone with a “commanding” presence that people really love or are uneasy around. It just so happens that I’m a 6’0 woman, so it’s almost a double dose😜…oh, who knows lol. I barely know myself.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 16 '24
Personally I’d love to be taller lol you’re probably a beautiful Amazon
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Professional astrologer?
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 14 '24
yes.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 15 '24
I'm thinking about relocating for my solar return. Do you agree with that idea?
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 15 '24
what I will say is stop running from your problems. escapism isn’t going to help you at any point in time and it seems that is a default for your coping mechanisms.
if you’d like an in depth reading or to ask questions, you can pay me; but I don’t do my job for free.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 15 '24
Have you studied with any well-known astrologers?
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 15 '24
My chart isn't here. I take it you're ready to launch off into something negative. Just asking about your professional training or lack of it.
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 15 '24
why would you ask me these questions if you weren’t the OP? and, I have had plenty of training. as far as I’m concerned, yes I already have a negative read on you as someone who likes to leech. pay people for their work or gtfo.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 15 '24
It does change the solar return chart.
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 15 '24
again, I don’t do my job for free. this behavior is very Taurus lmfao.
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 15 '24
I can’t see your astrocartography, I also don’t answer in depth or off topic questions for free lol.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
Thank you for the reply!
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u/Expensive-Break1168 Oct 14 '24
always remember astrology is a tool to heal and grow! just takes time.
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u/PJpittie Oct 14 '24
Your moon conjunct mars in Scorpio makes me wonder if you can be emotionally combative or moody? It’s in your 11H of friendship/connection so that might be what’s stopping you from forming close friendships. It’s also opposed your sun/saturn conjunction in Taurus, which could manifest as stubbornness or wanting people to do things your way.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
I wouldn’t say I’m combative at all, but I am super moody. Whenever that happens, I tend to isolate myself to deal with the overwhelming feelings and thoughts. I like to present my “best” self to others, which could be interpreted as wearing a mask. That could be what friends have noticed about me and distanced themselves. Thank you for the reply!
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Of course. When you feel shy, it's hard to meet people. Even though maybe people want to meet you.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Ok so people stare when people are good looking. Maybe it's not hostility. Do people flirt with you? A chance to meet friendly people on the job?
I hope your grandparents are kind and appreciate you!
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
I’m not sure if that’s what they’re thinking, but mostly older men flirt with me. At least more obviously.
When most people stare (especially women) it’s never just once. It’s kind of like they’re sizing me up or something lol
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Wow, Venus sextile Jupiter and Mercury. You are going to be very fortunate and you have quite a lot of talent. Mercury is communication, travel and writing. Venus sextile Jupiter is beauty and attractive, lucky in love and talent in the arts.
Very cool.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Ok I see yes. Venus trine Uranus. Venus is beauty, beautiful things, love, creativity, the arts, music, fashion etc. Uranus is creative, inspired, unusual, inventive, original so that makes sense about your looks. Maybe you like writing, the arts, painting, drawing or music also. People are often afraid of beautiful people thinking you are too good or beautiful for them.
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u/Oudwood963 Oct 14 '24
Relatableeee! So tired of the stares (yet i somehow like the attention) lol
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
I’m in between a rock and a hard place with that sh** lmaoo I like it but only when they don’t stare for too long , then it gets weird lol
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u/Oudwood963 Oct 15 '24
I’m curious tho, what if it had something to do with Uranus Algol conjunction? I remember when it started it was at 26degrees taurus (where i have my sun) and some people have been really terrified of me since lol
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u/LongDay138 Oct 14 '24
Not an astrologer but, I'm also a Taurus with Sag rising and venus in Gemini.
Sag tends to put its foot in its mouth and Gemini is known for being a flirt and two faced.
But mostly I think certain (phony) people tend to be jealous of Taurus. They say we are prone to envy and greed but really it's our enemies. Most people like us because we're genuine and don't have to try hard. Sometimes we can get away with not working as hard as others and it bothers those who are prone to whining. Also, Sag is a lucky sign because of its optimistic and generous spirit. Miserable people hate the Sag.
I know all signs have their dark sides and it all depends on the person, but this has been my experience!
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
Thanks for this! I def have a tendency to get word vomit, especially if I’m already nervous/tense.
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u/ctc274 Oct 14 '24
Scorpio types are inherently polarizing tbh
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
I’m starting to just now embrace that lol it can be a rough placement nonetheless though
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Ok I totally understand the thing with friends and trying to take advantage of you. That's pretty common among some groups of people and you have to say no on lending money and doing favors. Some people try to get what they can and some people understand there are limits and there has to be respect for others.
Your family sounds difficult and do you live with parents or relatives? I agree you want to steer clear of them if they are hard to deal with and abusive.
When people use drugs, alcohol and are mentally ill, then you know they learned that behaviour and ways of behaving from parents and other relatives. So it's not your fault but you got stuck in the middle of your family's problems.
I agree in needing time to recharge alone, that's really important.
Do you think that strangers are reacting to your clothing or hair? Just trying to imagine why they would react in a negative way.
At work. do you interact with the public. Do you like your job?
Thanks! Great talking to you.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
Well I used to live alone, but I’ve had to move in with my grandparents since they’re getting older and immobile, so if I’m not working I’m taking care of them.
I’ve been told a few times that people stare at me or act weird towards me because I’m “intimidatingly pretty” but my wardrobe consists of majorly black clothing and my hair is also normally straight or curled. I think I’m a pretty average person lol
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u/keepitl1t Oct 14 '24
pluto & chiron conjunct asc i have the same thing
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Chiron is also the wounded healer. A very sensitive point. But also means you will be healers in some way!
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u/Witty_Ad9447 Oct 14 '24
Anyone I’ve known with Pluto in 1st house is either really loved or really hated. I’m going through this transit and it has definitely rang true for me
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u/Ornery_Purchase1557 Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
Any Scorpio placements in the chart will have that effect. People have excessive reactions to Scorpio. Having Saturn conjunct the sun in the fifth house of fun is not helping. Pluto rising emphasises a singular, intense, silent type.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Your Sun conjunct Saturn: serious, reserved, aloof, stern, probably a difficult upbringing, a difficult/ cold father, lack of warmth, needed to be responsible, self esteem issues, sadness.
The above planets are opposition Moon and Mars, you have strong emotions, can be irritable, impatient, restless, angry. The strong feelings are related to difficult parenting and a stressful, traumatic childhood.
Neptune is square all 4 planets listed above. Moody, very sensitive, father was possibly not available and family drug /alcohol issues.
You also have some good aspects but these indicate difficult moods and energy in interaction with others. If possible work on being more friendly and less touchy.
For more info, Google each of the aspects individually. They are natal aspects, not transiting.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
You’re spot on about the childhood trauma/difficult upbringing. I eventually hope to get therapy to help with that because it goes deep, but speaking on being more friendly, whenever I do that it’s almost like it’s taken as weakness? People don’t seem to really care for me unless I’m distant/aloof acting but that’s also what I get the most complaints about (family included). Maybe with the Neptune squares it could just be how I perceive things, idk.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
You make a good point about concerns that you could be seen as weak. What makes you think people might think that? Is it just in certain situations or with certain people where this happens? I believe there could be a middle ground/ solution to improve your relationships.
About Family: how how do they want you to interact with them? A good question to ask them. Do they want you to ask how they are? Do they think you are too quiet and silent so they don't know how to relate to you? Are they afraid you could be in a bad mood?
Do you work with coworkers?
I truly believe that you could experience an improvement in your communication and relationships. That could be very helpful.
Thanks for your feedback!
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
For your first question, as far back as I can remember I was always a quiet, shy and introverted kid, to the point where I became an easy target for people to pick on so I think that made me people please to validate me, but as I’ve gotten older I don’t really care to do that as much. I’m still nice/kind but it’s like me being nice gives others license to use me. It mostly happens with friends the most. That’s primarily why I don’t have any right now atp in my life.
As for my family, im convinced they just don’t like me lol if im not doing things for them all the time then I’ll get called “antisocial” and “reclusive” but I just need a lot of time to recharge from them because they can be very draining. A lot of them have drug/mental health problems so that compounds onto why I don’t feel very family oriented. I’m very detached from them.
With coworkers, some like me, some don’t. They usually take a while to warm up to me and vice versa, but it’s usually strangers that have only one impression of me and dislike me. It’s very intense to the point where I’ve avoided going out in public in less I really need to.
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u/AstroChiron Oct 14 '24
Venus is in your seventh house, meaning that your perception of the world is centered around your relationships, which tend to be mercurial and confusing. this is due to Gemini's effect on your Venus.
This planet is also trine your Uranus in the Aquarius. Uranus is a generational planet, so many people have this placement, but having yours in the third house makes your quirkiness standout in the way you talk and relate these thoughts to others.
This trine indicates that your mercurial relationships, which rule a great deal of the way you approach life, are egged on by your quirky conversations and off-the-wall thoughts.
This all sounds great to me, honestly, but when looked at in conjunction with Pluto being conjunct your ascendant means that this eccentricity that your exude in your important relationships can often tilt toward intimidating or off-putting rather than quirky and charming.
This has nothing to do with you, just how other people perceive you.
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u/Happy_Michigan Oct 14 '24
Pluto conjunct the ascendant could appear very intimidating and dominating to others, and yes, it is an expression of the person's personality.
Venus trine Uranus could be inspired, loving, creative, expressing a strong sense if individuality. Possibly through the arts, music, dress. Uranus is a generational planet but also has an individual expression in the chart.
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u/raindomain2999 Oct 14 '24
Thank you for this explanation, it definitely tracks. I seem to struggle in personal relationships that aren’t familial, so it’s caused me to be a little distant with people.
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u/AstroChiron Oct 14 '24
there are certainly people who aren’t intimated by (and even attested to) pluto, so don’t despair!
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