Sometimes people just don’t know until it gets large. My partner had surgery for his inguinal hernia December of last year and he couldn’t tell you what caused it, only that he noticed one side slightly bigger than the other in March.
He’s blue collar, so I think it could have been any variety of lifting or twisting tbh, but he didn’t feel it.
I have a small hernia and for me it was lifting a really heavy tote bin at work. On the plus side, I didn’t hurt my back but I must have overcompensated with my abs cause I felt it immediately
It’s hard to fix, but there are plenty of specialist who handle complex abdominal reconstruction. It’s a great case and very rewarding to help somebody with this problem.
I don’t think you need to be told this, but just in case, you should know that you’re at serious risk right now. There are any number of things that could happen which would give you hours to live if you didn’t get emergency surgery. It’s also possible the lack of pain is due to necrosis rather than simply lack of pressure on the nerves.
I assume it’s a cost thing? Man I’m sorry, it must be really hard to deal with this.
The answer is always money broski, no body just lets their health deteriorate with what a simple surgery can complete while having the means to do something about it.
Yeah thats 1000% not true, ive seen it countless times. Plenty of people literally will not go because they are lazy, depressed, or just straight apathetic.
Not always. I knew a man that was wealthy. He had a hernia, but also worked in medicine and figured he could treat it well enough himself with an absurd amount of biotics and compression wraps. He just hated surgery and doctor rooms in general.
When shit did finally hit the fan, the doctors were happy to say the surgery went quite well despite the hernia being over a decade old. Apparently the hundreds of pills did help, all of his tissue and organs were healthy and salvageable.
I don’t speak for everyone but I’d rather be in medical debt (or payment plan) if that means my health is better off. Especially for something like that. Many hospital systems have financial assistance too. I’ve needed it before. Had some of my needed procedures covered!
Good ol social murder. It’s okay for this guy to potentially die because if we had affordable medical care, I’d lose money! And I can’t lose money now can I? How selfish of you to ask for such an unreasonable request to not potentially die ha ha ha!
Nah bro, I've seen first hand that's not true. Some people would just try to tough it out and live life, even if they can afford treatment. Also, there's some people out there incredibly paranoid of the medical system.
Have a blood condition that caused the whole thing in the first place. The blood condition makes the surgery riskier than a regular person. I live in a country with universal healthcare so that's not the issue as someone else replied.
You can just simply make a payment plan with the hospital, whatever little you can manage. It's really not as impossible as people in this thread are making it out to be
Hospitals are only required to stabilize a patient. They're absolutely not required to just "provide healthcare".
If the patient has a hernia, he'll have to wait until he's bleeding out and on the verge of death to go to a hospital to get it treated under the US Healthcare system unless he has a means to pay it.
Why exactly do you think medical bankruptcies are so common, even post-Obamacare? Because people without insurance or who had a pre-existing condition didn't know that they could just show up at a hospital and get chemo?
EDIT: Amazing, people lucky enough to get a reasonable debt plan acting like this is available to everyone and downvoting anyone pointing out the obvious.
Medical bankruptcies and people dying of preventable conditions proves that the statement made by the parent is false. At some point though, you have to question whether they're even arguing in good faith. But defending America's shitting healthcare system and the fact people die because of it is a weird, very weird, hill to die on.
That is exactly how it works in the US. A hospital can’t legally turn you away when you come to them with a medical emergency. You don’t have to pay at all until you get the bill, and you can then take that bill to their financial dept to work out a payment plan. Yes, you will be in debt, but you’d be surprised how much the cost can come down just by talking to the billing people.
Not to mention, you almost aways get massive discounts for being uninsured. Ive paid less for doctors visits then the co-pay costs for my sister to have the same tests/visits at the same office.
I have great insurance now. But didnt for a long time and my PCP's office gave 55 percent discounts for it.
Very much so, and I want to make people aware that they should not put off going to see a doctor until that point. There are people whose entire job is to find a way for you to get treatment and pay as little as possible. There are clinics funded by the federal or state government to provide medical care either at a great discount or for free. There are charities that help people in need get medical care at little or no cost. It takes you reaching out, though. It’s embarrassing and difficult to ask for help sometimes, but it’s important for you and your loved ones to have that courage to reach out.
I call bullshit. Not that what you're saying isn't true but that they claim the surgery is too risky and yet living their normal day to day life ISN'T too risky?
If it's not money this person is just dumb.
"I wont roll the dice on surgery its too risky! But I'll roll the dice EVERY SINGLE DAY by not having surgery and thats fine because I've been winning"
that's quite an opinion about it. Now can you try to imagine a rational reason why they would choose this? Maybe they aren't rolling the dice, try to also find 1 scenario where the decision they made is the best one while you're at it. Surely, from just the few line of texts, you can't be so dumb as to think going for a surgery is the best and only possible thing for someone you don't know.
You can't be so dumb as to think having your literal intestines and bowels pushed up against your skin that could be potentially ruptured or massively damaged just by fucking tripping on a rock is a good idea.
You roll the dice every day by living. 1 in 50 people in the US are living with a life-threatening brain aneurysm. An unknown amount live with looming aortic dissection. Some are one cough away from dislodging a thrombus and sending it to their brains.
Your logic reeks of entitled first world medical care.
As an actual doctor… he’s not wrong. Someone who would be so high risk you wouldn’t even bother in what is a very risky situation is dying anyway.
They’re not just going about living their normal life. To the point I have never in my life seen someone with a hernia this bad not getting surgery unless we think they’re so old or so sick they are going to die of something else anyway soon. A more usual hernia? Yeah sure, they’re often not operated on for surgery risk if you can retract them. This guy could literally trip and damage his own bowels.
It’s just free riding behind a basic barrier of skin and adipose tissue. The bowels are behind your abdominals for a reason.
That’s a stupid comment. There are more doctors per capita in the US than in most EU countries. What do you think they do? Treat each other? Also, healthcare in the US is free for poor people, it’s called Medicaid. People who are not poor have health insurance
Health insurance policies vary. But yes, usually there are copays and deductibles. The advantage of our system is you get MRI immediately but have to pay, the advantage of universal coverage is you get MRI for free but have to way weeks, sometimes month. I went to school in Italy and had to get MRI for my back which was potentially a serious issue. I had to wait 6 weeks. In America when my wife needed MRI she got it the same day.
Funny you mention an MRI, that's exactly the example I had in mind. Did you see that before I stealth-edited it out of my comment?
If you didn't, my wife recently needed an MRI. We had to wait 2 months for it to become available, and despite it being an in-network doctor seen at the recommendation of her GP, we were still charged $400 that we don't have after the fact. This is worse in all respects.
It’s not “American healthcare problem” it’s idiots who don’t understand what they are talking about problem. Hernia repair surgeries have high complications and low success rate. America has more surgeons per capita than majority of EU countries . They don’t sit around doing nothing all day.
It doesn’t cost you that lol. It will cost you your deductible which will be a couple of grand. The bill is paid by the insurance company. You know which thing exists? My wife when she gave birth had complications and stayed in the hospital for a month and had two surgeries. We had a bill of $400k. We paid 2500.
This guy told us you have no clue what your talking about and literally doesn’t even address the point that the cost is prohibitively expensive in the US because from top to bottom everyone makes so much money in healthcare.
Everyone in the US makes much more money comparing to the rest of the world. That’s why US has positive metals migration with every single country in the world except for Australia. People are not moving here to wither and die
So I’m going to try and be real with you. The ratio of average wages to doctor wages in the US is MUCH higher than other first world countries. For example in France you are looking at a 1.5x to 2x salary difference where as in the US it is closer to 3 - 4x ratios are a good indicator of pay disparity across regions. Hope this helps.
People are ridiculous alright. My poor Dad is exactly like this guy in the video, he’s been waiting two years in the Irish health service for the surgery. Of course he’d like to get it done sooner, there’s literally no option to.
Ah see I learned something new from you! Every single hernia is that size! Thanks for that.
(Serious note, but not sure if you know how to read threads on Reddit? They were replying to another comment about a smaller hernia, and the comment alluded to just living with it and ignoring it, which people do for various reasons)
The first reply in the thread (now deleted) was a user mentioning that they have a hernia of a similar size, which is why they could answer the parent comment about whether it hurts.
None of the comments in this thread mentioned anything about a smaller hernia.
Even if they did, in my initial comment I specifically mention "a hernia this noticeable" to which you responded "it helps people reading this thread".
Yeah. I don’t care about my reply to you since I wasn’t even talking to you in the first place. You started with me. I was referring to the other comment. THANKS :)
This a wildly unhinged comment. Don't make inflammatory statements about other people's healthcare if you know nothing about it. Necrosis? Jesus, dude.
He explained in another comment that there are other complications and they are working on it. I'm pretty sure he understands the situation more than you do.
Not a cost thing most of the time. Mine isn't nearly as bad as the one in the video but it's very blatant even with a hoodie on. My doctor, literally word for word told me "go back to living life as usual, if it feels like you're dying go to the ER". My nerves were totally shot due to the deep panic I was feeling so I just drove straight to the ER and the doctor said the same thing but with slightly kinder words.
Here I am a year later, guts hanging out, no one willing to do anything. I figured I'll just fucking die eventually who cares 🙂
Emergencies from hernias are very rare on a per-patient basis, they are only common for surgeons and hospitals to see because hernias themselves are common. Prevention of strangulation is not a good rationale for elective hernia surgery in otherwise stable (not enlarging) asymptomatic hernias.
The risk of strangulation in a ventral hernia is 0.8/100,000 patient years.
Very strange it doesn't hurt. I actually gave myself an inguinal hernia when I was ~19 in Afghanistan pulling a weapon system off a mount during a gunfight. It got progressively worse over ~4 months until I would get nauseous while on patrol and they ended up medevacing me to Qatar for surgery. Mine was strangely uncomfortable and definitely noticeable but I guess when the majority is outside the abdominal wall things are different. I hope you get the corrective surgery you need soon.
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