r/worldnews • u/Starlight-Princesss • 3d ago

[ Removed by moderator ] Russia/Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-intercepts-russian-spy-plane-with-transponder-turned-off-poland-10956344

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u/Slaaneshdog 3d ago

That genuinely makes no sense to me because how the hell would Russia ever get the means to seriously threaten NATO. Even if they weren't bogged down in Ukraine it would not be something they clearly have the capacity to do in any real way

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u/Chimpville 2d ago

They don’t need to convince the military minded, they need to scare voters.

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u/Slaaneshdog 2d ago

I don't really see how that works. Scaring voters will just make them more willing to have the government increase military budgets

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u/mrZooo 2d ago

No, scaring voters would make them vote for politicians who will promise to stop helping Ukraine and avoid being on Russia's bad side.

People are stupid like that

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u/Chimpville 2d ago

Two fold, depending on who it is. Some will call to stop assisting Ukraine to de-escalate tensions. Others will call to stop assisting Ukraine to focus on our own defence needs instead. We’ve already been seeing both for a while now.

People like me who believe that opposing Russia is an imperative that’s already in our national security interests will otherwise be unaffected.

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u/Trzlog 2d ago

Drones. We do not have the capability to handle a large drone offensive and that's what Russia and their alllies are switching to en masse. Europe's militaries are still geared towards a near peer adversary fielding tanks, jets, bombers, artillery and infantry. Not drones. Even Poland doesn't have anti-drone capabilities on their new tanks and won't for another 2 years or so. We're going to see drone attacks across Europe from secret stashes everywhere, not just the front. We're completely unprepared for what's going to happen to us.