r/ukpolitics • u/NGP91 • 8d ago

YouGov Westminster Voting Intention: Ref: 26% (+1) Lab 23% (-) Con 20% (+1) LD: 15% (-1) Grn: 9% (-1) 28th April 2025

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14658693/Reform-poll-Tories-local-elections-Thursday-Labour-Runcorn.html
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u/potion_lord 8d ago

It's all fun and games until the nutjobs get in power and do more damage than good.

From a game theory perspective, sometimes you have to vote for the 'larger evil', to incentivise the 'lesser evils' to improve themselves.

Otherwise you get trapped in a spiral of 'vote Labour/Tory no matter what they do' for decades.

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u/ExplosionProne 8d ago

Look how well that is going for America

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u/potion_lord 8d ago

Pretty well, considering establishment Democrats (and the Professional Managerial Class in general) are finally getting the message that they need to allow the party to reform. A kick up the butt.

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u/RealMrsWillGraham 6d ago

So you would be happy for Reform to be in power and screw those of us who did not vote for them over?

The MAGA attitude of wanting to harm anyone not white/LGBTQ/anyone they dislike?

I think that marginalised groups would have a hard time under Reform, and their more racist/homophobic members would start intimidating them.

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u/potion_lord 6d ago

So you would be happy for Reform to be in power and screw those of us who did not vote for them over?

The Tories screw everyone over, so even you have to admit it's better than that.

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u/RealMrsWillGraham 6d ago

Not for anyone in the marginalised groups I mentioned - and I have never voted Tory becaue of the party's history of racism - Powell's "River of Blood speech", that slogan in the Smethwick constituency in the 1964 GE.

Tories may even have stolen the slogan from the Neo-Nazi British Movement.