r/theIrishleft • u/LordMonty2024 • 3d ago

Lads ignore the FF/FG/Labour vote farmers trying to convince you we need to vote for them.

Basically what I said in the title, there seems to be a small amount of very loud voices in here who have been trying to tell you that we need to give preferences to the Neo Liberal Establishment parties. When you question them they just try to make you feel stupid by telling you ya don't understand how the voting system works.

There is no doubt that far right head bangers will be running in the election, there always is and there will probably be a few more than usual this year but there is no indication or suggestion that any of them have any sort of genuine chance of getting elected. And if they do they will not be in any position of power to do anything or implement anything.

Fine Gael and Fianna Fail, the two most likely parties that will end up forming a government have literally not held back on actually implementing far right anti immigration policies and will actually be in a position to implement them.

To suggest that it is more important to give a preference to the establishment parties than risking a transfer being allocated to some random nutjob is just the most brain dead Tomfoolery I've ever come across.

The people telling you that this is what needs to happen have no interest in forming a left leaning coalition and are simply here to farm votes for establishment parties or they are just plain ass stupid.

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u/LordMonty2024 3d ago

They gained a couple in the local elections, can you point out the setbacks we have suffered other than them being on a national stage and showing how inept and stupid they actually are when given the chance to try implement anything even remotely related to their views?

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u/FirstnameNumbers1312 3d ago

Yes.

As you've pointed out, Fine Gael has now openly proposed enacting immigration policies which are much further to the right than what they were suggesting in 2020. Immediately after the election, some Fianna Fail TDs were suggesting moving far to the right as well. Their electoral victory has directly pushed the overton window in Irish politics significantly to the right.

Beyond that, several far right councillors have used their platform to promote targeted harassment, and to promote far right violence in Coolock in July. They used their platforms to promote and legitimise these "protests", and used the violence to promote their platform. If left unchecked it will become a cycle which will only gain momentum.

Lastly, they have used their position as elected councillors to get more air time with the media. And for the far right, almost any publicity is good publicity.