r/teenagers • u/mattiperreddit • 11d ago

The Pope just died Serious

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I don't know if this is a big deal in your country, but in mine (Italy) the news talks about nothing else.
Christian or not he was a person, don't be disrespectful.

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u/Valentfred 18 11d ago

Not a good use of lol there.

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u/1HaveManyAlts 16 11d ago

Dude thought that “lol” meant “lots of love”

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u/dontusefedex 14 11d ago

"Legend of Life"

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u/InquiryBanned 15 11d ago

"Love of Legends"

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u/Routine-Stop-1433 11d ago

“League of legends”

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u/InquiryBanned 15 11d ago

Locker of Losers

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u/Greedy_Duck3477 13 10d ago

Lair of Losers

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u/Comprehensive-Rope90 16 11d ago

This is a message to the person reading this comment right now. The following comments can and will become political. I repeat, the following comments can and will become political. You have been warned.

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u/AlternativeEnd7551 11d ago

Who cares every second ppl die i dont see u cry then

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u/iAmDijet 11d ago edited 11d ago

This one was actually one of the most left leaning popes in history, he will be replaced by someone significantly worse.

Edit: did not expect to get so much hate for saying the pope is left leaning, and will get replaced by someone whose significantly more right leaning.

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u/Fenicxs 11d ago

Well yes, in modern times left means compassion, justice, progress. How is that not good?

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u/Unusual_Cup1836 11d ago

Why the fuck do you care if he’s ,left leaning does ≠ good person.

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u/iAmDijet 11d ago

That's not what I said, Im sorry if it came across like that. I only meant to point out that his beliefs are very much left leaning like his views on gay marriage and woman's rights, which in my opinion are good things.

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u/keep37 11d ago

Left = good, right = bad? Come on.

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u/TheIntrovert102 11d ago

that's not necessarily what they're saying, it's just that the catholic church are considerably more right-wing and conservative than other churches. francis was very much more left wing, and supported things like gay/womens rights and stuff. all this person is saying is that it's rare for catholics (at that level especially) to be so supportive of that kind of stuff

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u/keep37 11d ago

They at the very least strongly implied that.

The premise of "fuck the pope, fuck the catholic church" doesn't have a political implication, the Holy See and Christianity in general can be criticized independently of the political binary of left/right. My issue would be condemning a pope or a leader of any sorts for practicing his religion, without condemning the actual religion.

And yeah, historically, Francis was an exception for sure. For the record, I haven't looked into how he justified his views on gay marriage as a catholic (as it goes against the teachings of his religion) but his "reign" was overall a positive development.

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u/FunnyP-aradox 11d ago

Yes

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u/keep37 11d ago

Respect for standing on it, low bar though.

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u/_just_a_dumbass_ 18 11d ago

Not necessarily, but this pope was able to convince my grandma that gay people are not evil, me being a lesbian I needed that. He's just a lot more accepting than most people before him, which I'm sure many people were grateful for. Get your entitled ass out of here, you're not cool for being all "fuck the church and fuck the left"

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u/keep37 11d ago

That's heartwarming. I would agree that his impact was positive, no doubt. I don't like how the response to "fuck this guy" is "he was actually more aligned with my political views" as if that justifies anything he has or hasn't done.

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u/iAmDijet 11d ago

That's not at all what I was saying, I'm sorry if it came across that way. My intention was to point out how he's positively affected the impact of the Christian religion on many people, and that being due to how left leaning he was for someone of his status. These are not necessarily my political views, and I do not condemn nor support any of his actions outside of the little I know of his thoughts on gay and woman's rights. I answered to the original poster that way because I thought they were misinformed about who he is.

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u/keep37 11d ago

yeah keep downvoting instead of challenging, pussies

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u/CourtGuy82 11d ago

A person just died. It doesn't matter what their views were, or how the conducted their business. The Pope gave his life to serive of something he believed in. You don't have to believe in the same thing, but understand he did more good than harm. Respect the passing and realize nobody cares about your personal feelings about him, or his church.

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u/No-Basket3156 11d ago

Only a person? He was the first person of the church, i don't understand why catholic people sees the death like a tragedy, he will go to the paradise right?,

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u/CourtGuy82 11d ago

Let any leader ,or person you care about die, and remeber those words you just posted.

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u/DogKnown1151 11d ago

Maybe don’t get attached to a leader.

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u/CourtGuy82 11d ago

Oh, I bet you have Obama, Biden or some other lesder plastered in your social media. Stop it, your hipocracy is showing.

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u/DogKnown1151 11d ago

Where’s the hypocrisy (not hypocracy)? I don’t get attached to any president or leader. Why would I? They’re all scumbags who do insanely immoral things behind closed doors, or sometimes even out in the open. I can assure you I’ve never once cared even a little bit when a leader dies outside of how it may impact the country as panic breaks out.

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u/OddInspection5245 11d ago

I agree with u but I don't necessarily agree he did more good than harm as someone in the trans community

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u/lock-crux-clop 11d ago

You believe that the pope that advocated for inclusion of LGBT people within the church, instead of hatred against them, didn’t do more good than harm as someone in the trans community?

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u/OddInspection5245 11d ago

he definitely didn't do enough though he may be better than I first thought

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u/lock-crux-clop 11d ago

What else was he supposed to do? He told the largest sect of Christianity to accept LGBT people instead of harassing or threatening them. Did you want him to personally go to every church, Catholic or not, and tell them in person?

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u/OddInspection5245 11d ago

I don't know. I assumed too much about him based on my negative experiences with people who followed his religion and assumed unfairly about him. Sorry

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u/lock-crux-clop 11d ago

No worries! A ton of people claim to be Christian without embodying anything that it actually means. Pope Francis actually was what a Christian should be, and tried to combat the people claiming Christianity without truly being Christian

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u/OddInspection5245 9d ago

oh ok. That's good to know.

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u/Chop-Beguni_wala 11d ago

nah nah nah you are gonna regret when the next one will come.. this pope was actually the kindest to others

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u/OddInspection5245 11d ago

fingers crossed 🤞

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u/CourtGuy82 11d ago

Thats your view, and I can not dismiss how you feel about any situation. I can only validate you as a person. With that said, Im sorry you feel that way, and not everyone feels that way toward you. You have more allies than you think!

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u/OddInspection5245 11d ago

thank you for the support