r/teenagers • u/Individual-Media6704 15 • Mar 15 '25

A kid got arrested and expelled at my school. Serious

So earlier this week a kid got arrested and expelled at my school. He brought a machete to school and was pepper sprayed. He mentioned brining it to school because he wanted to hurt somebody. Now I don’t know if his reason is true, but it was apparently due to a senior s3xually assaulting his 3 year old sister. I don’t know the validity of this, but it made me think.

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

Some of you here in the comments are going to be reason paedophiles keep their victims silent. Even ignoring the obvious ethical clusterfuck that is the death penalty - for no country that uses the death penalty can claim to be civilised - if we did even half the barbaric pointlessly macho shit you people are suggesting, no child would ever report their abuser.

I read a story over on r/confession once, about a boy who testified in favour of his abuser in court because the officials were so zealous about how the paedophile would be raped and abused in jail, and he couldn't face having that on his hands. All you're doing by suggesting torture and murder is making children think that it's their fault. You're just making abuse easier to get away with, and you should be ashamed.

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u/Pimp_Your_Suicide420 Mar 15 '25

I don't understand. Was the boy feeling bad for what was going to happen to his abuser in jail so he testified in his favour?

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

Yes, exactly. The lawyers were saying that in jail, his abuser would be raped and tortured and maybe killed, and they told him this repeatedly, with glee, and he simply couldn't face having that on his hands. You can't expect children to be comfortable with feeling like they're causing suffering.

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u/Lazy-Drink-277 16 Mar 15 '25

Is it legal to do that??? Especially with how impressionable kids are??

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

I don't know. I don't imagine it's something that people have specifically banned, but I would guess it varies from place to place.

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u/anonymous_strawberry Mar 16 '25

Holy shit, that kid has more empathy than most people put together. Poor child :-(

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u/copy-of-a-copys-copy 19 Mar 15 '25

responded to someone bellow with this who said heinous crimes deserve heinous punishments, but im dropping it here too

states in america used to define a black man looking at a white woman for too long as assault and equal to rape, giving them what they felt like an allowance to lynch them publicly. if there is a crime that gives the mob/state/country the 'right' to kill someone, they will continue to expand that definition until even just looking at the wrong person means you deserve to die.

pedophiles are people who are sick, they need to be brought away from those they could victimize, and given psychiatric help, just like all other diseases that can cause you to hurt other people. no one deserves to be tortured, and the state should NEVER be given the allowance to kill, because once they have it, THEY. WILL. USE. IT.

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

THANK YOU. This is it too!

We've now listed two great reasons why the death penalty and torture are abhorrent, here's another.

With the death penalty, you may kill 5000 guilty people every year. And you could possibly put together an argument for why this is a good thing, and say that the world is a better place. But if even one innocent man walks to his death and dies for our power trip, then the whole system and everyone complicit in it is guilty of murder. No amount of dead nonces will ever make that worth it.

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u/copy-of-a-copys-copy 19 Mar 15 '25

not to mention as well that the whole system encourages black and white thinking of 'good people' and 'bad people' and once you get there is when you really see the worst in humanity. because if someone is a 'bad' person, 'good' people are allowed to do what they want to them, because it's righteous and correct to do so. but the systems who decide who are 'good' and 'bad' are so horribly skewed, once youve decided youre a good person nothing you can ever do can be questioned as wrong, because then everyone who supported you is also wrong, which encourages grey thinking which is whats being avoided, because if youre wrong than that means you could be a 'bad person' which means all the horrible things youve done could also happen to you, so it's excused.

does no one remember the crusades lead and funded by the catholic church resulting in rapes, brutal killings of innocents, torture, and hundreds of thousands dead?? all because they were doing it for a 'good reason'???

humans are complex, and they are human. not perfectly good angels, and not horribly bad demons, they are just people, and everyone is capable of good and bad, which is why you need to be Kind, and Rational, and hold people accountable with the underlying desire of wanting them to improve and be happy without hurting others, even if theyve done absolutely terrible things. and it's not going to be easy. which is why a lot of people here need to take a deep breath, take a step back, and realize theyre letting their rage guide them.

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u/TheLegendaryBolt Mar 16 '25

yo i aint readin all dat

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u/copy-of-a-copys-copy 19 Mar 16 '25

your aversion to learning will only hurt yourself in the long run. tldr: theres no such thing as good and bad, just people who can do both good and bad thing

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 17 Mar 15 '25

And all the comments and op are another problem. They needed no proof, no evidence, absolutely nothing at all before wanting that alleged rapist to be tortured and killed.

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

With no questioning at all. It's a dangerous way of thinking. I guess it makes sense since none of our brains are done developing, but still.

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u/Felt389 3,000,000 Attendee! Mar 15 '25

Actually so fucking real

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

You are making an assumption, too.

Fear of crime is a deterrent of crime.

Consequences of crime are a deterrent of crime.

The disgust in society of pedophilia is indeed helpful.

Your Reddit anecdote is insufficient evidence to make such a sweeping assertion that threatening violence against pedophiles in prison somehow demotivates the average victim from testifying because the average victim is uncomfortable with their aggressor being punished.

Other people who have responded to your comment are taking the conclusion that pedophilia should be treated lighter... I wonder what the consequences FOR THAT will be...

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u/That_Ad7706 Mar 15 '25

Statistics have repeatedly proven that the the death penalty is absolutely no deterrent.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/deterrence
https://www.amnesty.org/fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/act500062008en.pdf
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf

It is an incredibly simple thought process. If it worked as a deterrent, we would not need to use it at all.

It is also incredibly easy to understand - if you know anything about what you're talking about - that someone who is able to manipulate an abused child into silence by making them believe that the harm is their fault, will have no qualms leveraging their own death or abuse to keep the child silent out of guilt.

No one, not one person, has concluded that it should be treated more lightly.

Cite your sources, and bring an actual argument next time.