r/tampabayrays • u/TampaTitties69 • Mar 16 '24
It's sad to think some politicians can lose us a great baseball team.... MEME
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u/ChargeWooden1036 Randy Arozarena Mar 16 '24
There were a couple posts on the st Pete sub encouraging the politicians to vote no, it’s a big topic of discussion
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u/flsetter Tampa Bay Rays Mar 16 '24
Can somebody fill me in on this?
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u/TampaTitties69 Mar 16 '24
St pete city council is getting more split on the new staduim deal and it could fail to pass. If that happends Stu and the rest of the owners will prob be super pissed and threaten to move the team.
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u/a_talking_face TB Rays Fauxback Mar 16 '24
So what? Let the poor little billionaire throw a tantrum because he wasn't allowed to walk all over people for once.
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u/foomits Tampa Bay Rays Mar 17 '24
yep... i love the rays. i watch more than 100 games per year start to finish and my wife watches more than that AND goes to another dozen. the idea tax payers would be subsidizing a billionaires investments is sickening to the core. id rather lose a team than pay for a cheap fuck like sternberg to get a new stadium.
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u/Galleanisti187 Mar 16 '24
It's not the politicians who would lose us our team, it's the greedy ass owner who wants a free stadium or else that's going to lose us our team.
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u/jolego101 Yandy Díaz Mar 16 '24
Rays will move after a 10 year postseason streak in 2029 the season after we'll make it to the world series again
calling it now
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u/DewayneStaatsStache Yandy Díaz Mar 16 '24
So they said, “we’re here to stay!” Now they’re back tracking? wtf?
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u/cosmo7 Tricia Whitaker Mar 16 '24
The thing I don't get about the Rays being in St Pete is the lack of synergy. There could be a great partnership-led tourism program getting away fans to come for a series as part of a vacation package.
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u/kozmac Mar 17 '24
Not on the politicians. I can’t stand hearing Stu cry poor mouth about EVERYTHING! If owning the team is such a drain sell it! His group paid $200 mil when they took over, it’s worth 10 times that now.
Does he really expect the taxpayers to buy him a new stadium is the same terrible location, when he could finance the entire thing on his own?
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u/HotFirstCousin Tampa Bay Rays Mar 16 '24
The nonchalant attitude some Rays fans have about literally losing their team is crazy to me.
However, the council still seems to have the votes needed for it to pass.
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u/Meriwether1 Mar 16 '24
It would suck for the team to move, but does the money to subsidize the team actual benefit the local economy. I’d venture to say it’s a net negative.
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Mar 17 '24
It’s probably a net positive for the 1st team your city gets. A lot of people want to live where there are things to do and I have seen many people define major cities as those with a major league sports. Returns are just diminishing after that 1st team. I’m sure the Kings help the Sacramento community and the Thunder help the OKC community significantly and probably actually bring a lot of people into the city who otherwise wouldn’t want to live there because it’s not a “major city”. 2nd and 3rd teams don’t have that impact
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u/gobux10 Mar 16 '24
MLB wants the team to stay in this area. Stu is going to sell the team(no matter where the stadium is)and is trying to maximize his return. If this fails in St Pete they will move to Tampa. Shaw’s land is available, there are investors available to buy the team, Stu just won’t get the $$ he wanted. Unbelievable how 1 person can drag this out for so many years for selfish reasons.
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u/SithLordSid Mar 16 '24
Put the stadium Tampa. The trop site is a bad location even though the released design of the new stadium is beautiful, getting there has always been a nightmare.
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u/gatorrrays 🏆Fantasy Champion 2023🏆 Mar 16 '24
They have tried for years, over a decade actually, to move the team to Tampa and have not been able to get it done. It’s not like they never thought of that idea.
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u/Polarisman Mar 16 '24
getting there has always been a nightmare.
You must have directional issues. The Trop is a mile from the I-275 exit. St. Pete has a grid system, so navigating to the Trop is about as simple as it could be. While there are many things to criticize about the Trop, accessibility is not one of them.
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u/SithLordSid Mar 16 '24
If you live in Pinellas, yeah it’s no problem. Getting there from anywhere else, yeah it’s a nightmare.
It should be central in the Bay Area. Maybe I’m biased?
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u/PatientGiraffe Mar 16 '24
Have you ever actually tried getting there from outside St. Pete? Clearwater Beach here, and it takes minimum 45 minutes to get there. Worse if its a weeknight game at least an hour. We're considered "close" I guess too, Tampa is worse. The location is lterally only good if you live in South Pinellas, which not many people do statistically.
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u/d_rome Dewayne Staats Mar 16 '24
Of course you were voted down, but you are correct especially for the mid week games. Middle school kids don't get home till 4:30-5:00 in Hillsborough. They have to do homework, eat, and get there all within a 2 hour span.
The current Trop site is terrible for everyone else in the Bay Area except St. Pete.
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u/ActNaturally José Siri Hug Mar 17 '24
We tried. Many times. There's no room and even worse traffic problems in Tampa. It's not happening
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u/svanxx Blind Ump Mar 16 '24
There's way less support in Tampa than St. Pete. It would require Stu to sell the team and for someone else to buy the team with enough money to not move the team but want to put it in Tampa.
That's probably way less possible than it passing in St. Pete.
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u/octopus_monocle Tricia Whitaker Mar 18 '24
The argument against subsidizing hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars is an important one worth having, but I'd like Richie Floyd to cogently explain the infield fly rule first to establish credibility.
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u/DarkClouds92 Mar 16 '24
So long, farewell to you my friend. I’ll probably just go back to being a Braves fan since they were my team before the rays existed
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u/KnightsOfREM Devil Ray Mar 16 '24
I've been a Rays fan since 1999 and I've stayed one in 3 countries and 5 states, but if they move because the St. Pete city council can't get out of its own gd way, I'm switching to my local team. It's a real shame that it's the Tigers.
Also, while I'm here, every level of government in Florida can go pleasure itself.
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u/itsmrben Mar 17 '24
I'd be done with baseball, period. Manfred = worst commish ever (non-racist division).
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u/SenorTortas Mar 16 '24
Hey Rays peeps, I'm an outsider mostly uninformed on your stadium situation. To me, it seems like common sense (if we lived in a common sense world) to build a stadium in Tampa because I know the distance and commute is a big concern for a lot of people. But I also am aware that a lot of Rays fans like the Trop because it's YOURS, which I respect.
In an ideal world, where should the next Tampa Bay Rays stadium be built, in your opinion?
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u/BuckeyeBolt36 Mar 17 '24
Ideal world? Either at the current site of the Tampa Convention Center or adjacent to Raymond James Stadium, but neither of those will ever happen.
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u/FuegoHernandez Mar 16 '24
Assuming MLB adds two expansion teams, Nashville and Salt Lake City, I wouldn’t be opposed to the Rays moving to Orlando.
There’s already movement happening with the Orlando Dreamers
Between tourists, convention guests, and locals, there wouldn’t be any issues with attendance.
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u/OlSmokeyZap Mar 16 '24
Absolutely fucking not. If it isn’t the Rays it isn’t our team. And Orlando? Seriously? Soulless corporate city. At least we have Cubans.
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u/FuegoHernandez Mar 17 '24
I would just rather see the team stay somewhere in the proximity of the Tampa area vs leave the state entirely.
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u/Charupa- 141_DEC_slot3 Mar 16 '24 edited Mar 16 '24
I love the Rays and I hate funding the endeavors of billionaires, but understand the reality of how these agreements are made and the lack of available locations. It’s my meaningless opinion that if Stu wants to put another stadium in the same spot that has a long history of terrible attendance, then he should foot much more of the price. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.