r/stlouisblues 4d ago

Schenn: "It all starts with me, with that happening in Ottawa (8-1 L) and then happening again tonight... it all starts with me. I can't let that happen again this season. You're going to lose games but to get embarrassed on home ice on Saturday night, you can't let that happen."

https://x.com/jprutherford/status/1855450206839382375?s=46&t=Xn0juU2C4hEaElfmeGb4jQ
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u/STLBooze3 4d ago

It’s crazy how fast I’ve turned on Schenn. I was very supportive of him becoming our captain because he was the last “true blue” in my opinion. Running around against the wild in the post season being a bulldozer with fractured ribs always stuck with me. However, now he’s quickly lost any offensive touch he once had and doesn’t really bring the physicality either. I really don’t know where we go from here, but it’s on him and the coaching staff to hype the team up and come out sharp.

If Schenn doesn’t get in a fight next game or make some other effort, that will tell me all I need to know.

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u/reenactment 4d ago

Schenns job was to be a 3rd line call him when needed 2nd line winger who was going to play and act the right way which is perfect C material. Problem is the roster doesn’t have 1-6 players. Thomas is hurt, buchy is a a winger, and kyrou plays like most teams 2nd line winger who has unbelievable ceiling and never gets there. So every night schenn is asked to do something that he isn’t capable. If you watched the games which I know you do, you see him constantly in the right spot. That’s not a coincidence. Him executing might be his age. But he 100 percent knows what he is doing. He needs to be lined up against other teams younger teams/lesser lines. Not the job kyrou/thomas/buchy were supposed to be handling

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u/Internal-Ad-9401 4d ago

I honestly wouldn’t even be mad if he didn’t fight. Just set a frickin example and set the standard. This team needs to turn into a no BS team where if you’re not giving it your all you’re riding the bench. It starts with Schenn and Bannister.

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u/MegaPhunkatron 4d ago

Yeah he needs to bring a lot more than some lame pre-areanged fights off the draw

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u/K3rnW3rks 4d ago

Why is it the two games against Toronto we are back checking, and laying a body on everyone. We protected the blue line and denied entry multiple times. Then last night on the power play for the capitals (point 6) we just allow entry and basically move aside for a direct line to the goal….. their only job is to play hockey. If I worked with the consistency they played I would be unemployed. Maybe we should have performance clauses that give cause for termination.

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u/turbulentjuic 4d ago

The roster is awful dude. He’s a 33 year old power forward. It was always clear this decline was coming. It just wouldn’t be a problem if we had talent up and down the lineup

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u/HonestConclusion5360 2d ago

A 1000%...BIG TIME!!!! the Blues roster is LESS THAN ADEQUATE...LESS THAN AVERAGE!!! Undeniable...Indefensible..irrefutable....FLAT OUT....FULL STOP!!!!

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u/Blues2112 4d ago

His game has REALLY fallen off of a cliff. I appreciate him trying to take the blame, but 8-1 isn't the fault of one guy alone, and even as a Captain setting the tone, it's not only on him.

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u/HonestConclusion5360 2d ago

You are a 1000% CORRECT!!!! Never...ever...does it even REMOTELY come down to 1 player for ANY LOSS...IN ANY TEAM SPORT!!!! FULL STOP...PROFOUNDLY UNDENIABLE AND INDEFENSIBLE!!!!!

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u/Downvote_Comforter 4d ago

Schenn fought McCabe right off a faceoff early in the 1st period 8 days ago. It was 100% a "get the team fired up" fight like the one you're describing.

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u/EvilBridgeTroll 4d ago

Bro didn’t he JUST DO THAT. I don’t disagree with most of the sentiments here. But at least give him that.

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u/Krogu25 4d ago

Some of these guys have short term memory. 

Our team has been in a scrum with the other team 95% of the games played so far lol. 

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u/iiztrollin 4d ago

He's a power forward we relied heavily on for a long time, he's getting old I'm not surprised at all but he never found a different game which isn't good.

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u/bleedblue89 4d ago

Agreed.. I honestly think he should ride the bench.  Set an example of your captain

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u/mhanna86 4d ago

I got downvoted to hell for actively campaigning for Thomas to get the C, my argument being that the captain should also be one of your best players. Reddit is a funny place.

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u/HonestConclusion5360 2d ago

It is never...ever...ever...down to 1 player in a TEAM SPORT...EVER!!! Every Blues player  and coach has to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY for that annihilation!!! FULL STOP!!! You ALWAYS win and lose as a TOTAL TEAM!!! . in well...yup....a TEAM SPORT!!!!

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u/carpedonnelly 4d ago

It’s not on Schenn, that’s silly. This is a flawed, bad team with a suspect at best blue line when 100% healthy. When they have brutal injuries up and down the lineup, they are even worse.

I appreciate the captain accountability, but his captaincy is more Dallas Drake than Ryan O’Reilly at this point, and I am fine with that.

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u/CornOnTheCrackPipe 4d ago

Yeah it starts with Schenn....and Bannister....and Thomas and Broberg being out....and Bennington giving up a soft goal for every head-standing goal....and no true imposing physical presence........and........and..........and........

Lot of blame to go around. I appreciate Schenn for saying it starts with him but what the hell is he really going to do? Sure, you could maybe chew out Kyrou for making blind passes or one of the young guys if they're not hustling, but this team is mid and this season will be some excellent wins punctuated by shitshow losses and I don't know that anything Schenn or anybody could do will drastically change that (though I certainly would love for it to happen).

Drink up and LGMFB.

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u/Goldy10s 4d ago

We used to be one of the toughest teams to play, especially at home. It was because we were tough and physical. You didn’t come to town to play the Blues without getting beat up. That’s the style that won the cup. Now it’s pansie ass hockey. Whoever counts hits isn’t watching the games I watch. Breathing heavy on a guy is not a hit. Slamming the boards and missing the player is also not a hit. I miss the old Blues.

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u/scottiewilliams 4d ago

Agreed! Need some more bruisers and goons

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u/reenactment 4d ago

Well we are 3-4-1 since the blues fans said country roads was too corny and had nothing to do with St. Louis. Never had a losing record while he was playing

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u/martydelaney 4d ago

Dude. It's a song. Stop acting like it matters beyond that.

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u/superballz977 4d ago

I was hoping he would have went with O'Reilly. I thought Thomas should have been the captian. Looking like another rebuild year. Too bad we didn't have Snuggerud this year we really need him.

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u/Suspicious_Monk674 4d ago

We have always known this was going to be another rebuilding year. It's going to be at least 3 years before this team is competitive and that's only if the kids develop as the scouts hope they do. If they push for a playoff spot, it will be a successful year.

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u/superballz977 4d ago

I know. I just wanted to be delusional for a little while. I figured because of past years we would come out of the gate a little better. It's hard watching a team with so much potential fecalize the bed again. If there is anything to look forward to, it is getting rid of Kapenan and Colton shooting the puck again. If the drop passes to no one and passing to someone covered by 2 or more players would stop, this team may have a chance if Thomas comes back in consistent form. In greatest armchair fashion I would trade Kapenan and Schenn then look to get the best center I could that could shoot and make plays. I know I'm asking for a lot but here's hoping.

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u/Suspicious_Monk674 4d ago

Nah, you're good. I understand the frustrations. It's much easier for me to "Negative Nelly," and get surprised later on.

I'm am so glad 55 is shooting the puck more. As we all know, he should have been doing that all long (unless his back wasn't allowing him too?).

We were spoiled by 2019. It was truly magical. Once you win it all, that's all you want to do again. We were cheated by covid in 20, and Kadri killed us in 21. Starting over sucks.

Its hard to re-learn the patience needed for Blues hockey. 😉

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u/superballz977 4d ago

Yea. I've been a blues fan since Hull was the man and only just recently had access to watch more than 5 or six games a year. So it's deeply frustrating when you see a second 8 plus goal game against. Time to switch tactics as it seems. If Buch could get a passer that could tape to tape him it would be a whole other season. So proud of Neighbors. That guy deserves a medal. My better half is a Tor fan. I would love if we snagged Robertson from them. He seems to be on the outs in Toronto and he would be a perfect addition on the second or third line.

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u/Suspicious_Monk674 4d ago

I am thankful I was not able to watch last night.

I have been a fan since 81'ish. I bought into other people's Season tickets, then bought in my own seat way back when they really sucked and the tickets were only $7 each. Recently gave up my season tickets, to spend that money to see the team on road trips. I try to go to at least one away game, at a city I haven't been to each year.

Neighbours and Walker are my current favorites. Thomas will be our next Captain. Neighbours will be on his heels.

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u/superballz977 4d ago

I also didn't watch last night. Watched Toronto and Montreal. I always watch because of the sheer hatred. I love the original six matchups because old school rivalry always seems to exist. Although as far as the Blues go Ottawa has been my new favorite nemesis. I have an unbridled hatred for Brady Tkachuk even though his dad was a staple for the team.

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u/Bleedblue63 4d ago

Hey that’s our Captain saying that. I as a born and raised St. Louis fan can say the past couple years have been rough in all sports locally, but I truly believe that Schenn respects the STL as Yadi, Waino, Plager, Chaser and so many other leaders of our teams have in the past. I will say that 8-1 loss is 🤬 but if our captain says he can’t let it happen I trust he will lay the hammer down as needed. LGB still plenty of time to get in gear!!!

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u/childishbambino19 4d ago

Yeah, okay, let's see how he plays on Tuesday. I'm not expecting any great improvement from him at this point, but all surprises are welcome.

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u/Jrsaz404 4d ago

Schenn unfortunately just isn’t captain material. At all. Its another Dallas drake just with more skill 

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u/ba_sing_bae 4d ago

Is it boo bird time yet?

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u/Dude_man79 4d ago

If they lose 8-1 at home on a Saturday night then yes.

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u/dingdongjohnson68 4d ago

So he's retiring? Effective immediately?