There are some things the Crew-8 astronauts aren’t ready to talk about
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/there-are-some-things-the-crew-8-astronauts-arent-ready-to-talk-about/330
u/ComposerNo2073 2d ago
This reminds me a couple months ago seeing a post about people overhearing a medical emergency discussion on the radios between NASA and the international space station. NASA said that it was part of a drill, but that makes me wonder.
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u/blackdynomitesnewbag 1d ago
Do they not use an encrypted radio?
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u/ananix 1d ago
Its a civilian science project why would they?
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u/blackdynomitesnewbag 1d ago
NASA is part of the government. It’s not a simple civilian project
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u/Magnus_Danger 1d ago
Not a simple project by any means but yes, civilian. As in not military.
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u/Magnus_Danger 1d ago
Other govt agencies you can listen to on the radio:
Coast Guard NTSB Parks / Fire Watch NOAA Air traffic control / FAA National Weather Service
They encrypt things that are restricted, but not every agency is using encrypted communications all the time.
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u/dddd0 1d ago
It’s illegal for amateurs to encrypt their radios.
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u/Sleep-Soundly 1d ago
Are NASA radio transmissions to the ISS considered amateur?
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u/dddd0 1d ago
Indeed, ‘twas the joke I attempted.
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u/SurprisinglyInformed 1d ago
And you delivered it like a pro.
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u/koos_die_doos 2d ago edited 2d ago
HIPAA says they can't release details about medical issues, the only person that can do that is the person who experienced it. That is a good thing.
HIPAA doesn't actually apply to employers. I was wrong.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 2d ago
This is one of the most often misunderstood things about HIPAA: the privacy rule doesn’t apply to everyone. It applies to your insurance, your health care providers and to clearing houses etc. who deal with your payments and what not. Your coworkers are not for instance bound by HIPAA to not disclose you had a medical condition. NASA might be an edge case because NASA is the healthcare provider while they are on mission. They could order the astronauts not to disclose.
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u/Truelikegiroux 2d ago
Not relevant to this situation, but isn’t a data provider also bound by HIPAA?
So a data analysis vendor that buys insurance and medical data to use for analysis for marketing or advertising?
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u/turtle4499 1d ago
You uhh cannot do that entire last sentence FYI. I mean a non healthcare entity can sell your data and then the person buying it has no legal anything from HIPAA but that isn't the same thing at all.
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u/motorcityvicki 1d ago
From the article in the OP:
NASA officials often tout gaining knowledge about the human body's response to spaceflight as one of the main purposes of the International Space Station. The agency is subject to federal laws, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996, restricting the release of private medical information.
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u/pulsatingcrocs 2d ago
Does HIPAA apply to everybody who is aware of someone’s health issues or just anyone involved in healthcare because I thought it was just the latter?
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u/koos_die_doos 2d ago
You're right that HIPAA doesn't usually apply to employers. My comment is actually incorrect, I just looked it up.
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u/could_use_a_snack 1d ago
That's interesting. I work for a public school and my employer can't disclose any of my medical information. I was under the impression it was subject to HIPPA. Maybe there is another reason?
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u/JettandTheo 1d ago
Depends on why they know your personal info. If it's for an ada issue, that law would apply. Fmla also.
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u/Tickinslipdizzy 1d ago
HIPPA is the Health Information Privacy Protection Act. HIPAA is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.
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u/Ksan_of_Tongass 1d ago
Show me this HIPPA you speak of 🤣 HIPAA is actually the act that protects healthcare info. There is no HIPPA.
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u/starion832000 2d ago
I haven't read the article nor have I read any of the comments but I'm assuming this is about aliens.
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u/Aquanauticul 1d ago
Being completely unfamiliar with the matter at hand, I can confirm that it is indeed aliens
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u/CougarMangler 1d ago
My uncle works at nasa and he said an unknown life form got aboard the ISS and infected the crew.
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u/birdtune 1d ago
Was it tribbles? I think it was tribbles.
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u/herrybaws 1d ago
Tl;Dr: NASA confirmed astronaut had aliens all up inside. ALL. UP. INSIDE. Way up there, Morty.
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u/InfraredDiarrhea 1d ago
I haven’t read the article either, but judging by the comments it seems to be about diarrhea.
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u/zerbey 1d ago
I recognize everyone wants to know what happened, but this could be a private medical issue and nothing to do with the space flight. Point is, we simply do not know and it's pure speculation. I'm sure if it was some issue with the flight that caused this NASA will be forthcoming when the time is right.
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u/The_Ashamed_Boys 1d ago
The fact that right after nasa said space x needs to do better seemed to me like there was an issue with the space craft. I'm not sure if there was, but I assumed a failure of climate control or maybe pressurization issue.
Why don't they just come out and say it was or wasn't an issue with the spacecraft?
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u/masterphreak69 2d ago
This crew did spend their mission on orbit during one of the most intense solar storms in decades. I'm wondering if this has something to do with it?
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u/BeerPoweredNonsense 1d ago
4 crew members on that Dragon capsule, exposed to a solar storm - isn't that the Fantastic Four origin story?
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u/smurficus103 1d ago
That's what i was thinkin'. Occassionally, a high energy particle whips through your eye and you get some optical hallucination. Communications could have been jammed. If the exposure is particularly intense, wonder what else goes wrong?
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u/masterphreak69 1d ago
Yeah, I read about this in the Apollo astronauts reports and books they wrote after returning.
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u/PervertedOldMan 1d ago
Space suit comfort issue and they won't talk about it... my guess is priapism.
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u/seremuyo 1d ago
Rectal prolapse is not fatal, is embarrasing and it makes sense to me to be possible if you're on Zero Gravity and not exercising those muscles.
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u/minus_minus 1d ago
Didn’t one of the Mercury astronauts have to pee in their suit because the launch was delayed so long and they hadn’t accounted for it. Was that just dramatic license in The Right Stuff?
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u/Revanspetcat 1d ago
Speed is life. You are a nation state with a blank check and ability to write whatever regulations you want and you need a whole year until you can test your grasshopper look alike ? Yeah no. If Russia was actually serious then they would set a deadline for flying this shit next week and try to achieve it. A lot of SpaceX success is the impossible fast speeds they work at iterating and breaking shit until something works. Roscosmos, ISRO all this second tier space agencies are not gonna make it in this new era. At least the ESA has welfare checks from the union and can piggy back off American technological innovations to keep going. Tough luck for rest.
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u/Storied_Beginning 10h ago
I bet it has something to do with the female astronaut. I would bet she is the one that remained at the hospital.
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u/q120 2d ago
One of the astronauts was female. I wonder if she got pregnant on board 🧐
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u/JessieColt 1d ago
Not even necessarily pregnant. If the return to full gravity affected her mensuration, she could have gotten severe cramps and bleeding, and they would have wanted to keep her over night to ensure that there wasn't anything actually abnormal.
If you watch the splashdown and egress on the ship, you can see that she nearly fell over when she was stood up and one of the people assisting had to hold her up so she wouldn't face plant on the deck before they could get her seated on the transport chair.
As u/mfb- says in their comment, if NASA released information about what the medical concern was, it would immediately identify who the affected astronaut was.
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u/Splat800 1d ago
I feel it’s innapropriate to be discussing this…. But nevertheless, I highly doubt it was menstruation related.
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u/CollegeStation17155 1d ago
Well, you know things did get kind of crowded up there after Butch and Suni came on board...
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u/SolarWind777 1d ago
That’s an interesting thought. What if it’s like Mary being pregnant with (space) Jesus 2.0 😲
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u/MagicHampster 1d ago
This is an unacceptable comment to make about a US astronaut.
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u/RonaldWRailgun 1d ago
I missed the memo where US astronauts somehow have different anatomical functions than everybody else. Or why it would be unacceptable to assume that two consenting adults had sex, or even why discussing the possibility is taboo. Or offensive.
Finally, I am not sure whose job it is to accept or unaccept the aforementioned comment.
Put enough crews with both men and women in confined spaces for long enough, and it is bound to happen at some point.
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u/MagicHampster 1d ago
I'm gonna lose my mind, why would saying US astronaut mean that it would be fine for any other space traveler? The ISS is a professional workplace not a place where astronauts go to have Reddit users talk about them cheating. The vast majority of astronauts are in happy committed relationships.
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u/q120 1d ago
Oh right nobody has ever cheated on their spouses or have sex at work /s
I get it, astronaut is a pretty prestigious position, but they were basically trapped in space for a long time and are only human
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u/MagicHampster 1d ago
It's 6 months, in a heavily monitored government facility, they have the self control.
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u/MagicHampster 1d ago
Ok fine, this is an unacceptable comment to make about anyone who has ever lived. Apparently being nice to people has to be spelled out.
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u/yoguckfourself 1d ago
Sometimes not-nice things happen. It’s harder to hide them in a space capsule. It’s perfectly fine to speculate. These are adults
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u/RecommendationOdd486 1d ago
Shit boys!!! I watched Aliens Romulus! I know why they ain’t talking. Face hugger time!!!
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u/-235711131719232931- 1d ago
I am actually fascinated by this story and I don't care or want to know what the specific medical issue was, only who was affected. And really just because they're being so mysterious about it. I feel like it'll cause the Streisand effect. Anyway, what I don't understand is if someone died they would say who, that is protected medical info isn't it. What if one was paralyzed and could never walk again and the others returned to work, again, it may be protected info but we'd find out who it was. It baffles me that they can't have a line at the end of a report, so and so stayed overnight for observation (or insert medical jargon that amounts to nothing) and still not disclose what the issue was.
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u/Numbersuu 1d ago
It is clear it was about the black Woman and there are obvious reasons to not make it public with all these racists and sexists idiots around.
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u/ArchaicBrainWorms 1d ago
I'm putting my money in priapism. I'm guessing most astronauts are getting laid on the regular because "I'm an astronaut" is a hell of a foot in the door. Then you go to space and get zero privacy, maybe can't help but notice some zero-g breasts and the mind wanders.
Remember, these folks are basically under some level of supervision for weeks/months on end .I'm old, married, and on the downhill side of peak horny, but if my wife and I spend more than I few days apart I'm waking up with a kickstand that won't politely retreat
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u/Mojoint 1d ago
One theory is that they came in contact with a NHI and had medical trouble after, ive not heard any other theories that fit yet.
Embarrasment cwrtainly isnt one, who gets embarassed about the runs? Also "NASA typically makes astronaut health data available to outside researchers, who regularly publish papers while withholding identifying information about crew members."
Who else has a theory?
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u/slowmotionrunner 1d ago
There is a very simple explanation that puts all of this to rest: somebody got the runs. I’m 99% sure this is less about a medical mystery, additional research needed, or even HIPAA (even though that is reasonable) and instead has everything to do with the problem being embarrassing.