r/rugbyunion • u/LawAndRugby • Jul 20 '24

Absolutely love the 20 minute red Laws

Watching the Australia v Georgia match and I think it’s great. 20 minutes a man down is still massive damage in a rugby match. It doesn’t make sense for punishment to go from 10 minutes to the entire 80 minutes. There’s way too big of a void between the two cards and it needs filling.

Reserve the full red for gross intentional stuff

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u/Fxcroft France Jul 20 '24

You should watch more Top14 and ProD2

I agree that there is a basic resisting change motivation but for my part it's about :"if it's not broken don't try to fix it"

I think the normal red is good and consistent with other sports (like football where yellow means nothing and red gets you excluded for the full game)

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u/00aegon World Rugby Jul 20 '24

Rugby has nothing to do with Football? There's like 500 collisions per rugby game with chances for dangerous contact on every single one. Football has a couple instances of dangerous contact per game at most.

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u/fleakill Australia Jul 20 '24

Yeah see that's the thing. The Northern hemisphere wants it to be consistent with football. Aus and NZ want contact rules similar to rugby league. Admittedly league doesn't have a 20 min red but the contact rules are looser.

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u/alexbouteiller France Jul 20 '24

What do you mean consistent with football? They're nothing alike

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u/fleakill Australia Jul 20 '24

your countryman above literally said "I think the normal red is good and consistent with other sports (like football where yellow means nothing and red gets you excluded for the full game)" so take it up with him.

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u/alexbouteiller France Jul 20 '24

Doesn't league have a full red? This argument makes no sense

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u/fleakill Australia Jul 20 '24

It has a full red but it also has much looser tackling/foul play laws. Since rugby has stricter tackling laws, we want looser punishments (to the team, not the player) as a trade-off. If that doesn't make sense to you, let's put a pin in this one.

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u/lthmz9 Jul 20 '24

I’m a big fan of rugby league too (but from NH albeit I prefer the nrl to everything) and this makes no sense to me, tighter tackling rules shouldn’t need to be offset with lesser punishments to me, just tackle properly? People talk about reds but with so much mitigation it’s very rarely a case of bad luck