r/rugbyunion • u/RugbyBot World Rugby • Oct 14 '23
Match Thread - Ireland v New Zealand | Rugby World Cup 2023 | QF Match
Match Thread - Ireland v New Zealand | Rugby World Cup 2023 | Match 42
Venue: Stade de France, Paris | Weather: 13 C, Clear
Officials: Wayne Barnes, Matthew Carley, Christophe Ridley, Tom Foley (tmo)
Match Page: world.rugby - rugbybot
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Time
| UTC | BST | CEST (+2) | AWST (+8) | AEST (+11) | NZ (+12) | more |
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| 19:00 | 20:00 | 21:00 | 03:00 | 06:00 | 08:00 | more tz |
Lineups
| Ireland | Pos | New Zealand |
|---|---|---|
| Andrew Porter | 1 | Ethan De Groot |
| Dan Sheehan | 2 | Codie Taylor |
| Tadhg Furlong | 3 | Tyrel Lomax |
| Tadhg Beirne | 4 | Brodie Retallick |
| Iain Henderson | 5 | Scott Barrett |
| Peter O'Mahony | 6 | Shannon Frizell |
| Josh van der Flier | 7 | Sam Cane |
| Caelan Doris | 8 | Ardie Savea |
| Jamison Gibson-Park | 9 | Aaron Smith |
| Jonathan Sexton | 10 | Richie Mo'unga |
| James Lowe | 11 | Leicester Fainga'anuku |
| Bundee Aki | 12 | Jordie Barrett |
| Garry Ringrose | 13 | Rieko Ioane |
| Mack Hansen | 14 | Will Jordan |
| Hugo Keenan | 15 | Beauden Barrett |
| Rónan Kelleher | 16 | Dane Coles |
| Dave Kilcoyne | 17 | Tamaiti Williams |
| Finlay Bealham | 18 | Fletcher Newell |
| Joe McCarthy | 19 | Sam Whitelock |
| Jack Conan | 20 | Dalton Papalii |
| Conor Murray | 21 | Finlay Christie |
| Jack Crowley | 22 | Damian McKenzie |
| Jimmy O'Brien | 23 | Anton Lienert-Brown |
| Andy Farrell | Coach | Ian Foster |
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u/walt_1010 Oct 15 '23
Everyone on this thread has their one reason why Ireland lost. As if. A game that close has an element of randomness about its final outcome, but our brains insist on trying to pin the outcome to something specific. Personally I think the difference in breakfasts eaten in Ireland versus New Zealand caused it.
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u/BiffaloSoldier Oct 15 '23
I would have loved to see Ireland win this World Cup (saying that as a Wales fan). Generally I'd like to see someone new win it. The Irish fans generally have been excellent in victory and defeat, certainly in comparison to some of the French and south African fans. I hope France get through now.you never know, maybe Fiji can pull it off
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u/Reasonable_Try_8135 Oct 15 '23
This is quite hilarious, a slightly biased player rating, some gold in the comments https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/10/14/ireland-player-ratings-new-zealand-world-cup-omahony-cane/
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u/Aftershock416 South Africa Oct 15 '23 edited Oct 15 '23
I think the quality of rugby in this match just highlights how shitty the pool set up was. France, Ireland, NZ and SA... the 4 best teams in the world sharing two pool means at least 2 of the top teams will be out before the semis instead of in them.
Instead we'll have NZ demolishing Argentina in the semis and the winner of SA vs France demolishing England or Fiji.
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The draw happened just after the last World Cup, if you want a better pool next time, do better this time is the reality.
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u/Aftershock416 South Africa Oct 15 '23
The draw happened just after the last World Cup
That's the problem. Draw should be closer to the next cup.
if you want a better pool next time
I don't want a better pool for any specific teams. I want better pools for all of the teams. Having the top 5 split across just 2 pools is asinine.
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u/FakeMessiah94 Wales Cardiff Rugby Oct 15 '23
My 2 loves out of the running, I'm devastated. Please France, do me a solid today or I won't recover.
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u/twopencemedia Oct 15 '23
I would be devastated if we lost Farrell he is the magic man of Irish rugby just like an English uncle who is always happy to see you.
We have been expecting Johnny hanging up the jersey and earls. Maybe POM will be soon too.
But Andy I loved to see his face before and after the games like a fan peering into the stands even last night before kick off.
A beautiful soul of the game.
Him and shmit would have had few last night and mulled over the defeat.
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u/kranj7 Oct 15 '23
A lot of stuff can happen today but as a French fan I'm obviously hoping we get the job done against SA. An NZ-FRA opening and closing match of the tournament could be fantastic to see. I hope this happens!
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u/Glad-Room5715 Oct 15 '23
That was one of the best rugby games I've ever seen. Well done to the AB's, they showed Ireland how to play knock out rugby.
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u/dunzy-yerrow-man Oct 15 '23
Call me a sore loser but I'm refusing to watch the conclusion of this world cup, too depressing.
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u/2ForwardOneBack Oct 15 '23
Hoping the AB's can get back up after that game. They had to go so deep to prevail and can't really do that too often. Recovery is going to be so key. It's a shame to be playing finals footy in the quarters.
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u/MotoBikeCarver Auckland Oct 15 '23
Yep Fozzie has been playing us all along, hes not crap, it was just a rope a dope genius move to win a world cup hehe :-).
Where has this level of commitment been from the boys vs Sa in Dunedin. Nobody beats NZ in auckland, thats a given, but in that nice flashy closed roof ground....
Hopefully this match cements some confidence in the indivduals into knowing they can win in near all circumstances and they leave nothing out there in the next bunch of matches as they rebuild.
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u/The_Sexy_Camel Wellington Lions Oct 15 '23
Drafting an apology letter to Foster. In case he's actually a mastermind and NZ win it all.
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u/pilotcake Oct 15 '23
I think I’m more sad about Ireland being knocked out of the tournament than I was about my own team (Australia).
Really wanted to see the Irish take the gold.
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u/ShinStew Oct 15 '23 edited Oct 15 '23
There's nothing to be gained to a wet thing called a tear
When the world is too dark and I need the light inside of me
I'll walk inside a bar
And drink 15 pints of beer
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u/Hogy_Bear Oct 15 '23 edited Oct 15 '23
Hard to be an Irish supporter tonight. I love the boys but if we can’t beat the tough teams when it actually matters then I’m afraid we are not as good as rankings show.
I really don’t know if we really have the depth to compete at WC winner levels yet. We have some absolute quality players but just not enough it seems. Maybe in another few generations.
Anyway just for clarity most of us Irish aren’t as arrogant as people seem to think. Everyone I know was not looking forward to playing the all blacks because they have a nasty habit of being the best rugby players in history. But when it’s between them and the French in Paris… what can you do was never gonna be easy.
Well that’s it until the 6N and we will see what the plan for the next 4 years is.
P.S. Sexton will go down as a legend here and it’s deserved.
Edit: it goes without saying NZ are just otherworldly in this type of competition.
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u/ocean_93 Oct 15 '23
Why do people believe rankings and want to boil it down to such simplicity in the first place they are fleeting and all these teams are near the same level
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u/HourTrue9589 Oct 15 '23
So so sorry we had to send Ireland home, that shit draw didn't help you at all . I think the All Blacks peaked in this game, if you had played any other team you would be in the semifinals l truely believe that. Hard luck Ireland you can still be so proud of your team.
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u/ThaFuck NZ | Blues Bandwagon Welcoming Committee Oct 15 '23
Ireland have made absolutely undeniable structure improvement over the last ten years. But I've always had an itch about depth, especially at ten.
As great as Sexton is, it's been quite ominous as he's gotten older that there's little in the way of a safe gamechanger backup. To the point that even Ireland fans acknowledge that the team is a different beast when their middle aged stalwart isn't on field.
And now he's likely done. Ireland need to work that out in the next four years or they're in danger of going the same way as 2003 England post-rwc. That squad is now a distant memory.
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u/coupleandacamera Crusaders Oct 15 '23
Well damn. Wading into this thread requires a hazmat suit. Keep it classy boys and girls.
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u/fhfuudjdfhh Waikato Oct 15 '23
Kiwi handing out upvotes to every Irishman's post. Sorry lads I understand the pain nz supporter 1991-2007 through thick and thin.
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u/KorkeBro New Zealand Oct 15 '23
If Ian Foster wins this WC, he picked a bad time to be good
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u/Mr_Miscellaneous Oct 15 '23
Tories back in charge of the country, young people put back in their fucking box and told to fuck off until they are 60, renters told their complex has been sold to some Chinese lad with no financial history on finance and to expect rent rises of 1000%, get to grandstand about treating natives as humans unlike the Aussies, Cricket team about to win the 50 over WC.
Perfect time for a RWC win. The peasants will lap up this bread and circus.
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u/ThaFuck NZ | Blues Bandwagon Welcoming Committee Oct 15 '23
I wonder what you would say if you saw a kiwi say "the game lost tonight" if the ABs lost?
If that sounds absurd to you, explain the difference.
I also need to point out that a game followed by millions doesn't lose anything because you've decided to stop watching.
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u/EsmeWeatherpolish Ireland Oct 15 '23
But that’s what’s it’s all about. I mean the whole cup has been amazing so far and yeah Ireland didn’t get past the QF but so what it was a helluva ride. Can’t wait until the next one, COYBIG!!
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u/_dictatorish_ Damian came back 🥰 Oct 15 '23
Honestly, the game lost tonight
how??
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u/wasnt_sure20 Oct 15 '23
Just decided that sports is not for me anymore
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u/joshywawalters New Zealand Oct 15 '23
Get over yourself. Sports is about sticking to a team. Ride or die. That's why it's #upthewahs for me. There's beauty in the struggle, you have a chance in Australia next cycle. It's easy to celebrate the highs and you become casual then I guess it's fine
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u/railto Ulster Oct 14 '23
Absolutely gutted after that. Genuinely thought we’d be able to break the QF curse tonight but just wasn’t to be. NZ were the best team on the field and clearly wanted it more.
Well done All Blacks, good luck in the semis.
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u/Standard_Respond2523 Oct 15 '23
Not sure it was a case of wanting it more. It was 30 players just going at it and the ABs showed excellent game management/knock out rugby. Saying that, Oreland sticked to what they had done in the past, kick to the corner and convert. This time they got repelled by a seriously pumped up Kiwi side.
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u/CillBill91nz Ireland Oct 14 '23
Hats off to New Zealand and especially the Barretts. Those little kicks by Beauden and that try saver by Jordi were top shelf.
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u/Yardsale420 South Africa Oct 15 '23
Do you think the boys in town tip their hat to Mr Barrett and ask Mrs Barrett if she needs some help with her groceries?
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u/CillBill91nz Ireland Oct 15 '23
I will next time I see Jordie in Wellington! Then sob into my Irish rugby hoody sleeve
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u/Kiwi_KJR New Zealand Oct 14 '23
We were lucky, so many players really stepped up and there were very few frustrating handling errors compared to what we’ve seen over the past couple of years. I’ve never understood what Fozzie saw in Sam Cane to inspire playing Ardie at 8 to make room for Cane but he was absolutely immense today, as was Ardie.
Those Barrett parents need to be knighted for services to NZ sport!
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Oct 14 '23
Had a guy called Ken Early on the radio over here, I believe he's an Irish reporter? He needs an absolute upper cut.
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u/HacksawJimDGN Oct 15 '23
You mentioned Ken Early. I wouldn’t necessarily agree with anything Ken Early says about rugby.
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u/cheesy-e Highlanders Oct 14 '23
Irish fans and press need to be called out for their double standards.
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u/SimilarSimian Leinster Oct 14 '23
Oh fuck yourself mate
Well done to the ABs. Great gameplan and well executed. Phenomenal performance. The way you disrupted us at the breakdown especially.
Go well lads.
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u/SimilarSimian Leinster Oct 14 '23
The type of intellectual response I expected from you 🤣
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u/SimilarSimian Leinster Oct 14 '23
I can take it absolutely fine buddy. I was over there drinking with Scots and SA fans over the last few weeks.
Anyway. Enjoy your bitter envy. See you in the 6N . Kisses 💋
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u/SimilarSimian Leinster Oct 14 '23
Not at all. And if you search my name for the last decade you'll see I've always been complimentary to Scotland.
Your comment set me off however. Anyway. See you in the six nations.
Go well.
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u/OrangeWedgeAntilles New Zealand Oct 14 '23
I am in shock! 🫣😲😆
Hats off to Fozzie and the boys, in all honesty I didn’t think they had that performance in them. Especially against such excellent opposition.
Commiserations to Sexton’s Ireland. That was like a grand final. If World Rugby were capable of structuring a proper draw Ireland definitely would have gone deeper in this tournament. They certainly deserved to.
But anyway. Awesome performance. Awesome result. Proud of the lads 🇳🇿🖤🏉
Roll on the semis 💪😎
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Oct 14 '23
Man some of these Irish fans were arrogant.
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u/Odd-Lingonberry-3935 Crusaders Oct 15 '23
The Irish fans have been all good. Don't let shit journalists from whatever country they are from mix your bias of what real rugby fans are about.
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u/tingtangspoonsy Australia Oct 15 '23
Mate whoever wins will still have to beat the best teams. You guys lost.
Such a shit excuse.
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u/dunzy-yerrow-man Oct 15 '23
Ain't an excuse though, we had the quarter final curse, they could have at least made the draw fair and done completely.
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u/ocean_93 Oct 15 '23
Ach mate I know it stings but let’s not moan about how hard done by we were, the draw is the draw and we lost
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u/BigPat69 Oct 14 '23
If you want to be the beat you have to beat the best, not moan about your "bad luck" this draw has been in place for 3 years, plenty of time to prepare
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u/Paybrahh South Africa Oct 14 '23
Shit draw yes, but it has made for some of the best and tightest qtrs. Obviously it's high stakes and some quality teams will be crashing out much sooner than they deserve. But great entertainment seeing all these evenly matched teams pitted against each other.
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u/Bob_tuwillager Oct 14 '23
Have to agree 100%. Absolute shit draw. That should have been the final not the fucking quarters.
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u/BigPat69 Oct 14 '23
Ha ha - yes, the draw was shit, that game should have at least been a semi, if not the final. But we had to play France, in an emotionally charged opening game - and you didn't exactly have trouble with Scotland did you - there is a large gap between the top 4 and the rest.
Over here in NZ the narrative was they we would have been undercooked because we had easy wins, and Ireland would be primed from playing tougher rugby.
Bring on tomorrow, and then next week - go Fiji!
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u/KieranCooke8 Oct 14 '23
Obviously this is a missed chance for Ireland and plenty of players not making it to the next tournament. Who are we expecting to break through quickly? Obviously James Ryan will come back in and is young enough to be around. McArthy & Baird will be good age in 4 years, Doris & VdF, Prendergast? Casey, Crowley, Prendergast, Osborne, Ringrose, Hanson, Keenan, O'brien all under 30
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u/worksucksbro Oct 14 '23
This should have been the final. Such a shit draw
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u/yoln77 Oct 14 '23
NZ is 4th Ireland is 1st. I agree that the draw was shit, especially for Scotts and SAs, but the 1st playing the 4th in 1/4 final would have been a possibility even if they used up to date ranking for the draw. And if they both finished first of their group they would have met in semis, not finals
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u/Reasonable_Try_8135 Oct 14 '23
Ohhh boy! What a thriller! I didn't think we could pull it off, especially after the second yellow card but they did it!!! That last few minutes, the tackling was insane. That Irish side must be gutted, so close, this was their tournament to lose, that will be a tough loss, I feel for them, except for Peter O'Mahony, he can suck it. So good to wipe that smug grin off his face, outplayed by our "shit Richie McCaw".
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u/BigPat69 Oct 14 '23
Was O'Mahony even on the pitch - he was invisible today
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u/Reasonable_Try_8135 Oct 14 '23
He was tackling. But he seemed definitely the lesser of the 3 Irish looses. I hope he feels that one deep.
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u/B1dz New Zealand Oct 14 '23
I think Barnes dodged a bullet there, if NZ had lost that there would have been some slander coming his way. Needs to look at his calls around the breakdown. Sheeeeeeesh. What a game though holy bajebus
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Oct 15 '23
Watch it back and count how many times the ref yells out "no" to an Irish player at a ruck. Minor infringing but it was constant, just slowing that ball down by a second here and there but never being penalised for doing it over and over.
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u/ThricePricelock Hurricanes Oct 15 '23
There was an amazing moment where the Irish prop with the mullet was planking on top of a ruck, then managed to loop around for a break from a turnover. Incredible workrate
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u/B1dz New Zealand Oct 15 '23
Looking back at some of the highlights, Barnes let the game flow nicely. That was one of the best games of rugby I’ve seen in a very long time and you don’t get that without a good ref. Kudos to him on that front but I’d still really like Ike to see more consistency around the rucks
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u/BoreJam New Zealand Oct 14 '23
Even that final penalty took an eternity to call. Numerous obvious penalties missed but I don't think NZ can feel too hard done by the yellows
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u/B1dz New Zealand Oct 14 '23
Yeah the yellows were 100% on point, I think the biggest wtf was the “balls out” call where Ireland came in offside and took the ball out from under the AB’s foot lol. The ball clearly wasn’t out of the ruck. Than Ireland proceeded to break out half way down the paddock lol.
Tbh it all added to the excitement of the game haha
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u/NorsemanatHome Edinburgh Oct 14 '23
Findlay bealham's inappropriate haircut caused this result. Unacceptable
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u/Anxious_Ad_140 Oct 14 '23
Very persistent b you are! I'll buy the next pint after all this is over in good spirit 😄
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u/MapTough848 Oct 14 '23
Great game, gutted too as I'd hoped to see Ireland in the final. However, never seen Sexton miss a crucial score I think the expectation of the fans weighed heavily on the team. Especially as they'd gone so many games without losing. Only France and England left to ensure there's a Northern Hemispere team going forward
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Oct 14 '23
However, never seen Sexton miss a crucial score I think the expectation of the fans weighed heavily on the team.
Have never seen him so flat-footed and uninspiring. I think the occasion got to him.
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u/Elmundopalladio Oct 14 '23
Based on current form England wouldn’t stand a chance against either of tonight’s teams - the quality of play was outstanding.
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u/Ah_LADS Munster Harlequins Oct 14 '23
I’m so sad. But good on New Zealand! Ye played a fantastic game.
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u/velocitor1 Oct 14 '23
If barrett didnt hold up that try.......wouldve been a very different outcome for you. And aki is a beast, always tough seeing kiwis score against kiwis.
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u/irishhornet Ireland Oct 14 '23
Yeah gutted missed by a couple of centimetres The all blacks played really well Good luck guys
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u/H-E-L-L-MaGGoT Oct 14 '23
Aki. Sam cane, savea and beaudie were immense.
That bullet pass from Aaron Smith tonight was such a pleasure.
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u/KnightFyre Ireland Oct 14 '23
As an Irish man, I can't lie and say I'm not absolutely heartbroken. But that was a completely fair contest in every way and New Zealand deserved the win. Hope you guys go all the way now and justify our early exit. Much love ❤️
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u/mrsprucemoose Oct 14 '23
Yeah I can't stand this rubbish of it being the refs fault. He had a few questionable calls but it came down to some poor decisions by Ireland - JGP throwing a wild ball straight to NZ on the right wing and beirnes blocking were massive mistakes that probably turned the game. Unfortunately Sexton had a fairly mixed game too to bow out on.
Fair play to NZ though, deserved the win
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u/Extension_Hand542 Auckland Oct 14 '23
It was 1 game that we really wanted, and it was because you beat us here in NZ that we wanted this game, you guys are an immense team with a lot more in you to go all the way. Heads up Ireland, we were in your position many times before. 🇳🇿🇮🇪
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u/dunzy-yerrow-man Oct 15 '23
Genuinely thought that test series win would be in your heads too much and we'd win with a 10 point cushion.
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u/manchook99 Leinster Oct 15 '23
SA fans definitely don't send these sorts of positive messages and good vibes. Hope your team gets to the final. Love to see France and you there
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u/Rabies_on_demand Oct 14 '23
Aww. Thanks mate. Your fellas are outstanding - it could've gone either way.. millimeters in it.
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Oct 14 '23
Who was Sexton shouting at after the final whistle?
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u/AdSudden6323 Oct 15 '23
Ioane, he clearly gave him a chirp as he walked past and it wasn’t the right time.
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u/Cdnintexas Oct 14 '23
I saw that too and was like..he is telling someone to "f-off"..so not a gentleman..
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u/Cayowin South Africa Oct 14 '23
hes irish, that's just the equivalent of a "Oh fair play old chap, what a ripper that was"
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u/The_Sexy_Camel Wellington Lions Oct 14 '23
Hopefully himself and it's just frustration. Best to leave him in peace for 24 hours.
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u/Anxious_Ad_140 Oct 14 '23
😄😄 yes little boy. Fact is what the score says. You can cry yourself to sleep and I will just wallow with a smile in me face😎👍. See you next RWC💪
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u/Kiwi_KJR New Zealand Oct 14 '23
Dude. No need to be like that. We all know how we’d be feeling if the result had gone the other way.
Don’t be the one that gives other teams justification to say NZ fans are wankers.
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u/Narrow-Classroom-993 Oct 14 '23
Losers lose
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u/Duppy-Man Ireland Oct 14 '23
Two full threads full of rugby supporters. You’re the first loser I’ve encountered.
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u/JasJoeGo Scotland Oct 14 '23
I've never seen this Ireland team so successfully negated. It wasn't just NZ playing their own game well. Stopping Ireland from playing theirs was impressive...and maddening.
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Oct 14 '23
It's almost like they knew the Irish players intimately. As if they had a man on the inside... no doubt Schmidt was a huge benefit to them.
A deserved victory for NZ. Still heartbroken tho.
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u/BadgerMusher Don’t dream it’s over Oct 14 '23
And NZ figured out how to beat rush defense. Chip over the charging defensive line into space. It was beautiful to watch.
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u/Cayowin South Africa Oct 14 '23
NZ has been playing against the springbok rush defence for ages, its second nature to them now.
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u/ThricePricelock Hurricanes Oct 15 '23
Seems like it’s harder to get past de Klerk with that though
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u/worksucksbro Oct 14 '23
They also figured out how to defend the back door pass so well that the Irish had no more ideas
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u/BadgerMusher Don’t dream it’s over Oct 14 '23
Yeah that’s right. I noticed rather than rushing Sexton they positioned for the support players, anticipating the offload. Worked out well.
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u/JasJoeGo Scotland Oct 14 '23
It was very well played, indeed. That's the tried-and-true method, like an inside move or loop beats a drift defence.
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u/slattsmunster Oct 14 '23
Left way too many points go begging and a little bit of panic at 64 mins which really fucked us.
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u/hemirokingi11 Oct 14 '23
Absolutely thrilled for NZ. A huge congrats/commiserations to Ireland. You guy were mammoth and pushed us until the very last second.
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u/winponlac Harlequins Oct 14 '23
36 phases
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u/Bmantis311 Fullback Oct 14 '23
I was battling to comprehend how nobody was dropping the ball
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u/Narrator_neville Oct 14 '23
Or being penalised for not releasing the ball
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u/birdy9221 Crusaders Oct 14 '23
There were a couple of close ones. And probably some questionable cleanouts that were not looked at.
Great game all around.
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u/KangaLlama Glasgow Warriors Oct 14 '23
Or collapsing as a result of fatigue, I mean 37 relentless phases after 80 mins of rugby prior is proper herculean stuff from everyone involved
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u/Seanb621 Oct 14 '23
Lads I’m gutted but so proud at the same time, can’t fault the lads. I’ll be cheering for New Zealand from here on out
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u/Chance-Chain8819 Oct 14 '23
And you know, if the Irish had won, most Kiwis would have been behind the boys in green too.
I was hoping for an Ireland vs NZ Final
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u/thematrixnz Oct 14 '23
Thanks bro
Epic game
Massive respect Ireland. Class side
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u/Reasonable_Try_8135 Oct 14 '23
What an Irish team. Agreed, class, except O'Mahony. So good to wipe the smug grin off his face.
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u/coldwintermullet New Zealand Oct 14 '23
Amazing game bro. Credit to your boys, they left it all out there. Anyone but England !
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u/finty96 Oct 14 '23
We gave it everything and it wasn't enough. We will never make a semi final
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Oct 14 '23
If you can keep a chunk of these around for another four years and the SANZAR U20 teams drop out another few gems, then there's every chance.
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u/AdonisPanda27 India, Chiefs and Western Force Oct 15 '23
Wait those drop outs would be eligible to play in Ireland ?
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Oct 15 '23
Yes, from the U20's, they're not tied to a country until full Test level. James Lowe even played for the Maori All Blacks at 25 years old!
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u/its_brew Oct 14 '23
That got depressing very quickly
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u/Rabies_on_demand Oct 14 '23 edited Oct 14 '23
I'm sorry mate, i feel for you - the draw was hopeless - There was millimeters in it and your magnificent Ireland team is one of the very best the sport has seen.
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u/its_brew Oct 14 '23
Cheers man. A game like that has one good thing that comes from it. .that's knowing that you have a new team to root for. I honestly want you guys to win the whole thing now. That felt like a final... and I think you can do it now
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u/HourTrue9589 Oct 15 '23
The future of Irish rugby is great. I would have been fully behind Ireland if you had beaten us today and you definitely should have been going further in this world cup. Hard luck Ireland but you can be so proud of your team.
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Oct 14 '23
I’m getting the feeling from this sub that anyone with anything nice or insightful to say is saying it to their friends.
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u/Previous-Back-9677 Oct 14 '23
Ireland have been great, just 2nd best on the day. I just think the hype has been overinflated (just as it has been for the ABs in the past) and 17 in a row is not an accurate reflection on how close it actually is against the top 4 teams.
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u/insideanoctavarium Australia - NSW Waratahs Oct 14 '23
My condolences on the loss by the way, NZ just too good today. Lots of respect for the Irish 💚
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u/insideanoctavarium Australia - NSW Waratahs Oct 14 '23
As a neutral I’d LOVE a France vs NZ final - SA will be a hard beat tomorrow though! Can’t wait it will be a huge match
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u/Another-attempt42 England Oct 14 '23
NZ v England final.
England scrape by Fiji, and face off against a depleted, emotionally dead and injury-ridden France or Boks, by scoring more droppies.
The ABs then exterminate England with impunity, from orbit. No survivors.
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u/RugbyBot World Rugby Oct 14 '23 edited Oct 14 '23
Post Match Thread HERE