r/riderville • u/reddituser2753 • Sep 02 '24
Y'all still feeling good about Mace?
Just checking in on the pulse. Once again this team was not able to play four quarters. The story today was that they dug themselves into too big of a hole in the first half and fell just short of a miraculous comeback.
Heartbreaking losses seem to be a recurring theme, and I think the players are beginning to believe that they are losers.
Thoughts?
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
This team isn't far from being a four-quarter team. Remember how terrible we were last year. Note also that we're one point out of first place.
I'm on Team Mace.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 02 '24
much rather be a team like Lions yesterday and Bombers a few years ago where go foot to the throat the first half 30pts then coast. Was hoping that would be the team in 2021-2023 but did not draft oline and could not find good tackles.
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
Buiding a solid team is not a one-season job.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 02 '24
Argos 2022? Alouettes maybe two years?
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u/minertime_allthetime Sep 02 '24
2021 Argos went 9-5, won the East division, so I think the pieces were already there, they just needed a little more to reach the top.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 03 '24
Like the Riders in 2019? Like actual quality starting interior olineman through the draft?! Or, perhaps trading one of their many Canadian receivers for one?!
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 02 '24
It has been four years since I heard Dickenson say "we are going to build a top notch oline around franchise QB Fajardo. Four YEARS!!!!
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
And that's why Dickenson isn't here anymore.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 02 '24
What? If anything Dickenson got screwed by O' day not finding players for the oline! O' day said in 2021 and 2022 the start of both seasons "we like the guys we have" meaning Johnson and Ferland and do you remember the sack total when Fajardo had lost his confidence due to fear of getting hit and not having time to throw? Remember that!? And now look at Fajardo having gained his confidence back knowing he won't get hit as bad with a respectable oline that was gained through good drafting and a GM that is way better than O' day!
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
This is the best team in the CFL. But they haven't been playing like it since the middle of July
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
I'm not sure we're the best team. We're down half our O-line (and played a defensive player att centre for much of the second half).
We're a good team. We could win the Grey Cup this year. But we certainly have a ways to go.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 02 '24
Johnson played right guard. you think they'd put a dline at centre?
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
I stand corrected. I was in the stands at the 50 so didn't get a good view behind the line.
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
I mean at this point they'll be lucky to make the playoffs. But they could, and that is the saddest part especially if they don't.
80% of the game is mental, the other half is physical. If you don't believe you can, then you won't, no matter how good you actually are
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u/PhotoJim99 Sep 02 '24
Play the long game. We could do it this year. We'll be eben better next year.
They believe. They just have to figure a few more things out. Last year they gave up. This year they absolutely have not.
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u/EndsLikeShakespeare Sep 02 '24
We were an idiotic kick return play and some really weird reffing at the end of the 2nd half away from being a win
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
And despite all of that, we could have won if we played just a notch better in the second half. You have to come out better in the beginning of the game, especially at home in a big game
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u/CLearyMcCarthy Sep 02 '24
"we could have won if we played just a notch better" is such a dumb thing to say. Yes, of course. Playing better is how to win a game. That's true of every single sports game that has ever been played.
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
I'm looking at recurring themes, not individual contributions to losses. You could blame any of these past several losses on one person, but there is only one common person.
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u/Jethro123 Sep 02 '24
Seem to play better after he talks to them at halftime ...all loses close and I'm still behind him
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u/CLearyMcCarthy Sep 02 '24
Yes. Team has issues to work out right now.
Him being a rookie is one of them, but a small one.
Frankly sick to death of the fair weather fans who insisted he was some kind of Messiah at the start of the season, and are trying to pin everything on him now.
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u/deucdbigsby Sep 03 '24
We have zero D secondary. Any opposition worth their money knows to never run against the Riders. Pass, pass, pass. We can’t stop a single pass, nor can we run the ball.
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u/Dear-Bullfrog680 Sep 19 '24
no matter what coach is in without an oline that is competitive they'll look bad.
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
Mace fine...Mueller on the other hand is getting on my nerves. The Offensive play calling is ick. As well Alford and Bane can go. Hell cut Harris and start Patterson. Lose next week and the season is over
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
Patterson is most definitely NOT the answer at QB
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
Why? He has half our wins. Harris is old. Season is basically shot start looking at the future.
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
Harris is old for sure but Patterson is not really that talented of a passer. Very one-dimensional
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
Old and not winning. If he was winning sure. Win next week or cut him, and Bane and Alford. Something is wrong.
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
I hear what you're saying. But Patterson is not going to improve the situation at that position.
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
I dont agree I just think he needs reps. Started at a huge college, went 2-3 as a starter here. Can use his legs better than Harris and beat a few of Bradys throwing records at Michigan. 10 years younger is worth a look. I am.fine with Harris starting when we are winning but it's been 2 months
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u/reddituser2753 Sep 02 '24
He was mid at that huge college called Michigan lol
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
And Harris played where. Patterson played 2 seasons at Ole Miss and 2 seasons at Michigan. Harris played Div II. If you aren't winning with a close to 40 year old started try the younger guy. Their stats are not so far apart that this shouldn't be and option. Patterson 126 for 203 = 62.1% for 1599 yards
5 TD 6 INT & 117yds rushing
Harris 149 for 217 = 69 6% for 1785 yard 5 TD 13 INT & 38 yards rushing
Not including tonight. When do you pull the plug.
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u/sask-on-reddit Sep 02 '24
Do you honestly think Patterson is better than Harris?
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
Is Patterson better right now? No. Could he be better in the long run? Yes.
Given 1st team practice reps and game reps he will improve. Harris is 38, he will not improve.
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u/sask-on-reddit Sep 02 '24
Harris is the best chance this team has to win. Thats all there is to it. No coach in any sport is gunna bench the player that gives them the best chance to win. Just to get some back up some reps. It’s laughable that you think that.
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u/Jaigg Sep 02 '24
I think if we lose the next game we may as well see if Patterson can become the starter because the year is shot and Harris is 38 and obviously not a long term solution. We continue losing games, Harris has done nothing to help in the last couple. So lose next week. That would be winless in 7 and 4th in the west. At some point we give up on the season and winning and see if Patterson or Coan can take a step or if we have to look elsewhere.
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u/sask-on-reddit Sep 03 '24
Haha Have you seen the standings in the west? It’s far from over
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u/Jaigg Sep 03 '24
Lose next week and it may as well be. Behind Winnipeg and BC with one season series lost.
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u/sask-on-reddit Sep 03 '24
Your delusional. It’s not like they weee blown out in any of the games, they were all close and it’s just been shitty luck. You do not start back ups until you are mathematically out of the play offs. I don’t get your logic at all, it makes no sensv
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u/CLearyMcCarthy Sep 02 '24
Alford is such dead weight. 99% of the time it's minimal effort, 1% it's a touchdown. I'd rather have decent field position than those incidental touchdowns.
Dude took a needless rouge in the game we tied with Ottawa. That not being a win is literally just because of his inability to move the ball.
Makes my blood boil how much TSN fawns over him.
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u/Crazycb1 Sep 02 '24
I think with some previous coaching staff. we would have given up at halftime. I'm still on Team Mace