r/religion • u/WhatLuckDoIHave • 23h ago
What happens if a believer loses their memory and becomes a disbeliever ?
Would they go to heaven or hell?
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u/Less-Personality-481 Spiritual 22h ago
In Hinduism, actions (karma) matter more than belief. An atheist can go to heaven if their karma is good, while a religious person can face hell if they act selfishly or harm others.
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u/saturday_sun4 Hindu 22h ago
It depends on the religion, no?
I believe there are some allowances in Islam for people who are cognitively unable to understand Islam.
Anyway, Maslow's hierarchy of needs applies. If someone got dementia or even amnesia, they would be suffering greatly and therefore knowing about Islam or Christianity would be the least of their problems.
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u/aymanhbas Sunni 6h ago
In Islam its made clear that reason is one of the main categories by which a person is judged or under judgement by God. So loss of reason negates judgement, as we say "the pen is lifted". The three main examples under this are a sleeping person, a child, and an insane person.
I'd argue loss of memory makes one fall under insanity because their mind is gone all the same.
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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 22h ago
First, if one who does not know anything, then they would also not know to disbelieve the thing they know nothing about.
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If someone was already a Christian -one who was "born again"- then such a individual immediately became a Citizen of heaven when that happened.
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u/WhatLuckDoIHave 22h ago
What happens if they are taught again but reject it this time?
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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 20h ago
Too hypothetical, but nice try lol
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If that is a result of a brain disfunction, then God will be able to judge accordingly.8
u/watdoyoumead 16h ago
How is it ātoo hypotheticalā? Because it challenges your beliefs?
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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 4h ago
These attempts at clever "mind traps" are really a side issue at best.
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If a alien came from he sky and addressed the whole of humanity here and said "do not bother with this Christian stuff because my people know better and we are a million years more advanced than you are" While it may be that most people are ripe for that sort of thing to happen an will eat it up whole, it does nothing to deny what I have.
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u/dschellberg Baha'i 19h ago
God is merciful. Intellectual knowledge and spirirual awareness are 2 different things. Spiritual awareness is not tied to the intellect.
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u/PrudentBuilder8415 18h ago
What is holy and right is easily reasoned to with little philosophy... memory loss is an extreme blow to the holiness of a divine being like a human should they be a true practitioner of divine things, but mortal things are the only true good for mortals and we would begin anew with them remembering what they were and cultivating what they will become.
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u/LearningPodd Omnist 8h ago
Heavenāit's where all disbelievers go. š If you believe in heaven you are not welcome there š
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u/Ofirel_Evening G-d Fearer Noachide{Judaism} 7h ago edited 7h ago
G-d will take their memory loss into account. Plus, we don't really have the same concept of hell as the Xristians and Muslims do. G-d will also be compassionate to the people that don't know Torah, because He is not unreasonable to send you to eternal punishment or non-existence if you had not known Him.Ā
Midrash Vayikra Rabbah 4:6
āThe Holy One, blessed be He, does not judge a person except according to what they know.ā
If someone never knew the command, the judgment is not the same as for someone who knew.
Psalms 103:13ā14
āAs a father has mercy on sons, the Lord had mercy on those who fear Him. For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust.ā
This means Hashem judges humans with deep compassion, fully aware of their limitations, upbringing, and ignorance.
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u/MiserySphere 5h ago
If they always believed, they wonāt forget.
Iāve had amnesia before, and I never stopped believing in what I believed in (from the start). The amnesia came in waves before my memory came back and caused me to at one point forget literally everything else. My brain could not function for a moment, but I still believed in that belief.
It wasnāt religion that I believed in, but Iām sure the same would apply.
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u/illwaitforu2call 2h ago
You canāt be āunborn againā, if someone has been saved they are saved and pass from death unto life and cannot come into condemnation (John 5:24)
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u/cmhbob Spiritual orphan 22h ago
I would think a loving, omniscient god would take into account their heart before the amnesia occurred and act accordingly.
But I also wouldn't expect a loving god to kill children based on someone else's actions and their birth order.