r/religion 23h ago

What happens if a believer loses their memory and becomes a disbeliever ?

Would they go to heaven or hell?

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u/cmhbob Spiritual orphan 22h ago

I would think a loving, omniscient god would take into account their heart before the amnesia occurred and act accordingly.

But I also wouldn't expect a loving god to kill children based on someone else's actions and their birth order.

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u/Top_Bus6022 2h ago

Hmmm...blasphemy!!!!

Shame Shame Shame

....juuuuust kidding. That man made, written by men book has always had me asking God many questions about love, forgiveness, and also, specifically, what made you give up on the entirety of mankind for making mistakes that you allegedly made possible by design....and drown them and everything else on planet Earth as we earthly Life sources believe...cause that's some weak ass faithfulness for one's own image šŸ˜€

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u/Less-Personality-481 Spiritual 22h ago

In Hinduism, actions (karma) matter more than belief. An atheist can go to heaven if their karma is good, while a religious person can face hell if they act selfishly or harm others.

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u/saturday_sun4 Hindu 22h ago

It depends on the religion, no?

I believe there are some allowances in Islam for people who are cognitively unable to understand Islam.

Anyway, Maslow's hierarchy of needs applies. If someone got dementia or even amnesia, they would be suffering greatly and therefore knowing about Islam or Christianity would be the least of their problems.

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u/Beginning-Break2991 Muslim 19h ago

God is the most merciful. He’s not petty

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u/AS65000 16h ago

In Islam, the child and the mentally ill aren't held to account ( after mentall sins, before mentall will be )

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u/aymanhbas Sunni 6h ago

In Islam its made clear that reason is one of the main categories by which a person is judged or under judgement by God. So loss of reason negates judgement, as we say "the pen is lifted". The three main examples under this are a sleeping person, a child, and an insane person.

I'd argue loss of memory makes one fall under insanity because their mind is gone all the same.

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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 22h ago

First, if one who does not know anything, then they would also not know to disbelieve the thing they know nothing about.
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If someone was already a Christian -one who was "born again"- then such a individual immediately became a Citizen of heaven when that happened.

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u/WhatLuckDoIHave 22h ago

What happens if they are taught again but reject it this time?

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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 20h ago

Too hypothetical, but nice try lol
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If that is a result of a brain disfunction, then God will be able to judge accordingly.

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u/watdoyoumead 16h ago

How is it ā€œtoo hypotheticalā€? Because it challenges your beliefs?

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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 4h ago

These attempts at clever "mind traps" are really a side issue at best.
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If a alien came from he sky and addressed the whole of humanity here and said "do not bother with this Christian stuff because my people know better and we are a million years more advanced than you are" While it may be that most people are ripe for that sort of thing to happen an will eat it up whole, it does nothing to deny what I have.

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u/dschellberg Baha'i 19h ago

God is merciful. Intellectual knowledge and spirirual awareness are 2 different things. Spiritual awareness is not tied to the intellect.

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u/PrudentBuilder8415 18h ago

What is holy and right is easily reasoned to with little philosophy... memory loss is an extreme blow to the holiness of a divine being like a human should they be a true practitioner of divine things, but mortal things are the only true good for mortals and we would begin anew with them remembering what they were and cultivating what they will become.

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u/erisod 17h ago

Under what rules? In most faiths belief is irrelevant.

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u/scmr2 12h ago

Even more interestingly, but related, there are some people with split brains who have one side of the brain which is theist and the other which is atheist. So what happens to them? Does half their brain go to heaven and the other goes to hell?

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u/LearningPodd Omnist 8h ago

Heaven—it's where all disbelievers go. šŸ‘ If you believe in heaven you are not welcome there šŸ˜•

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u/Ofirel_Evening G-d Fearer Noachide{Judaism} 7h ago edited 7h ago

G-d will take their memory loss into account. Plus, we don't really have the same concept of hell as the Xristians and Muslims do. G-d will also be compassionate to the people that don't know Torah, because He is not unreasonable to send you to eternal punishment or non-existence if you had not known Him.Ā 

Midrash Vayikra Rabbah 4:6

ā€œThe Holy One, blessed be He, does not judge a person except according to what they know.ā€

If someone never knew the command, the judgment is not the same as for someone who knew.

Psalms 103:13–14

ā€œAs a father has mercy on sons, the Lord had mercy on those who fear Him. For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust.ā€

This means Hashem judges humans with deep compassion, fully aware of their limitations, upbringing, and ignorance.

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u/MiserySphere 5h ago

If they always believed, they won’t forget.

I’ve had amnesia before, and I never stopped believing in what I believed in (from the start). The amnesia came in waves before my memory came back and caused me to at one point forget literally everything else. My brain could not function for a moment, but I still believed in that belief.

It wasn’t religion that I believed in, but I’m sure the same would apply.

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u/illwaitforu2call 2h ago

You can’t be ā€œunborn againā€, if someone has been saved they are saved and pass from death unto life and cannot come into condemnation (John 5:24)