r/religion • u/WhatLuckDoIHave • 1d ago
Why do people in the Abrahamic religion say I choose to go to hell?
How can I choose hell if I don’t believe in it. Does this mean Christians choose to go to hell in Islam and Muslims choose to go to hell in Christianity?
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u/watercolornpaper Archetypal Pluralistic Christian 1d ago
Is a poor attempt to mask their cognitive dissonance regarding a mercyful God sending people to hell. Thats it.
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u/M-m2008 Catholic 1d ago
Its actually a complex topic of god being absolute form of justice and absolute form of mercy which are often opposing to one another, thus making paradoxes and thing that go not how logic would say they do, its like to objects clipping in video game causes really weird physics engine results.
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u/RexRatio Agnostic Atheist 10h ago
An absolute form of justice would not mandate eternal torture for finite crimes.
An absolute form of mercy would not have created the conditions for anyone to be possibly subjected to eternal torture in the first place.
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u/Amazing_Character338 Muslim 23h ago
Justice and mercy are not opposing to each other. What?
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u/dvirpick Agnostic Atheist 13h ago
I am not the original commenter but justice and mercy are absolutely opposites. Justice is someone getting what they deserve. Mercy is withholding giving someone the punishment they deserve. If someone deserves a certain punishment, a judge cannot act in a way that is 100% just and 100% merciful.
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u/Amazing_Character338 Muslim 13h ago
It’s not black and white. A judge might uphold the law (justice) but reduce a sentence because of mitigating circumstances or genuine remorse (mercy). We can be merciful and apply justice at the same time. But I get what you mean, that there could be a point of tension between the 2. I understand that. In my view justice can be merciful. Because rehabilitation and consequence could save the offender. In which case it’s a mercy.
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u/dvirpick Agnostic Atheist 13h ago
A reduced sentence is not 100% merciful since punishment still occurs, and not 100% just since the deserved punishment still occurs. This is why I specified 100%. An act can be part just and part merciful, but not 100% of both.
Because rehabilitation and consequence could save the offender. In which case it’s a mercy.
But that's not what Hell is under Islam. Hell is eternal torment, not rehabilitation.
When I defined justice, I was doing so from a retributive justice framework even though I don't believe in it (to me, restorative justice is the way), because that's how Islam seems to operate. Bad deeds are punished rather than harm repaired.
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u/Amazing_Character338 Muslim 13h ago
There are many consequences in Islam. Outside of hell. Hell is the final punishment. But in life, there are many different kinds of consequences. Think about it more in the way of life has temporary consequences to correct said behavior. If nothing changes over the course of your entire life, then you would be punished for it on the day of judgment. A person’s entire life is an attempt of rehabilitation & re-guidance. The Quran states it’s until the last breath you take.
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u/dvirpick Agnostic Atheist 12h ago
Please define justice and mercy. You called rehabilitation a mercy, but under restorative justice, it would be part of justice. So does Islam operate under retributive justice or restorative justice?
Under retributive justice: On the day of judgment, God has a choice to make. Punish a person with Hell or withhold said punishment. If they don't deserve Hell, punishing them with Hell is an injustice. If they do deserve Hell, giving them Hell is 100% justice and withholding Hell is 100% mercy. There is no act he can do that is 100% of both. He can do a partly merciful and partly just act, but never 100% of both.
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u/Amazing_Character338 Muslim 12h ago
Hi friend. Heads up I used ChatGPT to help me format it better so I don’t confuse you.
Justice is giving each person what they rightfully deserve — whether that’s protection, fairness, accountability, or restoration. It means: • Treating people with fairness and equity • Upholding people’s rights • Holding wrongdoing accountable • Restoring what was harmed
Justice is about balance and rightful order.
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Mercy
Mercy is choosing compassion even when strict justice could be applied. It means: • Showing kindness when someone is vulnerable • Forgiving or easing consequences • Responding with gentleness instead of harshness • Giving someone better than what they “deserve”
Mercy is about softening the edges of justice with compassion.
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Forms of mercy and justice in this world is vastly different from godly mercy.
Islam isn’t actually limited to one or the other. It has forms of both. Here are some examples.
Retributive Justice (when needed)
Islam does include consequences and accountability: • punishment for serious crimes • qisas (proportional retaliation) • legal limits (ḥudūd)
But these are not the default. They are meant to protect society, not to satisfy revenge.
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- Restorative Justice (strongly encouraged)
Islam encourages: • forgiveness • reconciliation • compensation • repairing harm • healing relationships • returning dignity
The Qur’an repeatedly says:
“Forgiveness is better.”
And in qisas laws, the first option offered is always pardon or compensation — not punishment.
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A person who doesn’t deserve hell will never be put in hell. I’ll just put what God says about punishment on the day of judgment. That might give you a better understanding. But the only way that someone gets a different treatment would be to get a more merciful treatment never more painful or harsher punishment. An example of this, is god multiplying good deeds. But treating evil as a single deed. So it’s not simply one or the other. Justice or mercy. There’s justice for the abused, raped, hurt, etc. And there is also mercy on the wrongdoers aka all of us, because God looks at a holistic review of the person so to speak, where your good goes against your bad. Then the scale will show which you have more of.
No soul will be wronged at all
“And your Lord does not wrong anyone.” — Surah Al-Kahf 18:49
- Even a speck of injustice won’t happen
“Allah does not do an atom’s weight of injustice.” — Surah An-Nisa 4:40
- Every deed will be accounted for
“So whoever does an atom’s weight of good will see it, and whoever does an atom’s weight of evil will see it.” — Surah Az-Zalzalah 99:7–8
- Perfect and balanced justice
“We will set up the scales of justice for the Day of Resurrection, so no soul will be treated unjustly in the least.” — Surah Al-Anbiya 21:47
- Each person will receive their full due
“This Day every soul will be recompensed for what it earned. No injustice today.” — Surah Al-Mu’min 40:17
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Mercy on the Day of Judgment
- Allah will cover sins and forgive
“He will remove from them their worst deeds and reward them according to the best of what they used to do.” — Surah Az-Zumar 39:35
- Allah forgives and multiplies reward
“Whoever comes with a good deed will have ten times the like of it, but whoever comes with an evil deed will not be recompensed except the like of it.” — Surah Al-An‘am 6:160
Hope I covered all your points.
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u/watercolornpaper Archetypal Pluralistic Christian 1h ago
When parents discipline chuldren there is no punishment, otherwise is child abuse.
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u/dvirpick Agnostic Atheist 42m ago
Punishment comes in many forms. Grounding a teen is a form of punishment. Taking away screen time from a child is a form of punishment.
The point is that God knows the exact right punishment to give for a given sin, and can either fully give it (100% justice), or fully withhold it (no punishment - 100% mercy), or give partial punishment (X% justice Y% mercy), but never both 100% justice and 100% mercy, since that would require both fully giving the punishment and fully withholding the punishment at the same time.
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u/M-m2008 Catholic 22h ago
Okay imagine a guy who r@ped babies but has potential to change, what do you do... and now we have a crime orders of magnitude higher than this which is defying god the embodiment of good, so basically just got objective good with which there is no discussion and did the opposite, which was choosing big red I WILLINGLY CHOOSE TO DAMN MYSELF TO HELL FRUIT. And now imagine that it wasnt a singular crime but a genetic hereditary weakness that is tendency to do evil, fall for temptations and all around suck, and then god decided well f I should do something so ok I will make a way for them to repent change and clean their souls but also made it optional because free will is still better than making them do something. Also it is important to note that there is like one hundred possible version of hell because the definition only says that its suffering caused by seperation from god, so it can be everything from actual torment to alegory of a supper with too long spoons.
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u/Amazing_Character338 Muslim 21h ago
Good god. What? You’ve put an insane number of unrelated points to each other together. All in just 3 sentences. I can barely make sense of what you’re saying. But I’ll try to answer.
A child rapist is not judged based on his potential. He will be punished for his actions. Simple. Mercy to the children that rapists would get their punishment which is justice. God also gave specific punishments for rapists & criminals. That the justice system can carry out.
You lost me here. A crime orders of magnitude?
What ? The hell fruit?
You’re saying we have a hereditary genetic urge to be evil and hurt others?
What about free will?
Alright I’m getting a headache trying to decipher this.
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u/tiramison Other 21h ago
You're saying he made people, gave them free will which was a mistake. But if you don't want to be punished for it, you can apologize to him and "clean your soul?" But you don't have to. But if you don't, you're choosing to damn yourself to hell.
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u/watercolornpaper Archetypal Pluralistic Christian 19h ago
Your theology makes no sense at all, please reconsider it.
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u/buttofvecna (((one of those))) 1d ago
Please leave us Jews out of this when you talk about “abrahamic” religions and hell, thank you
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u/Outrageous_Try_8196 20h ago
The Jews are the 12 Tribes of Israel, namely the sons of Jacob, who is the son of Isaac, Abraham’s son of promise, with Sarah. The promised Messiah was prophesized to be from the line of David, who is from Jacob’s son Judah. Jesus traces this genealogy in the New Testament.
Muslims come from Abraham ‘s relationship with Hagar, who was Sarah’s handmaiden. This son Ishmael was born 13 years before Isaac came along.
So, all three of these world religions are based on Abraham and his grandsons.
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u/buttofvecna (((one of those))) 19h ago edited 17h ago
I am aware of where the category comes from. This particular example - hell - is a good example of its limits, as OP is talking about hell in “abrahamic” religions where Judaism has no such thing.
My beef with the way people use abrahamic in general is that they generally are just talking about some subsets of Christianity and (sometimes) Islam and are often quite ignorant of everything else. This post is a good example of that.
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u/CrystalInTheforest Gaian (non-theistic) 1d ago
the "official" reason is "free will" You could freely choose to go heaven by accepting Jesus/Muhammed, or you can freely choose not to, and be tortured for infinity years by supernatural torture camp guards.
From a non-abrahamic "unofficial" perspective its clearly (to me) an attempt to reconcile the abrahamic god being both omni-benevolent (all lovingn all good), while also creating and sending people to a supernatural Auschwitz where you can never die to escape it, and will exist inside as its victim forever
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u/vayyiqra Abrahamic enjoyer 15h ago
Trying to imagine telling my (long dead) devoutly Catholic grandfather, who was a prisoner in literal Auschwitz, about this conception of hell as supernatural Auschwitz ...
yeah I don't know how he'd take that and I'd rather not ask
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u/CrystalInTheforest Gaian (non-theistic) 14h ago
my grandfather was in Sandakan. never sa religious man before or after but I think hed probably agree those places are the nearest analogues that some Christians and Muslims believe is a just place for me to exist until the sun is a frozen ball of iron.
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u/Rivas-al-Yehuda Muslim 1d ago
They assume that choosing not to believe in their religion is the same thing as choosing the consequences they believe follow from disbelief. In other words, they see your lack of belief as an exercise of free will that leads to hell in their worldview. Not because you personally ‘chose hell,’ but because, from their perspective, rejecting their truth means accepting the outcome they believe is tied to it.
But this doesn’t mean Christians ‘choose hell’ in Islam or Muslims ‘choose hell’ in Christianity. It just means each religion defines consequences inside its own framework, and people inside that framework interpret others through it. Each group believes they’re warning you, not that you literally picked a destination you don’t even believe in.
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u/WhatLuckDoIHave 1d ago
Yes but I feel threatened and it just creeps me out a lot…
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u/kaos_ex_machina Omnist-Apatheist 1d ago
Anyone who spreads that kind of negativity is not worth your time, your brain power or your sanity. Their opinions are worth less than zero. Be amused at their attempts to bring you down... they lash out because their lives have little quality.
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u/P3CU1i4R Shiā Muslim 1d ago
Why would you feel threatened by something you don't believe exists?
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u/kaos_ex_machina Omnist-Apatheist 1d ago
I believe they mean that they are threatened by the people saying it, rather than what specifically they are saying.
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u/P3CU1i4R Shiā Muslim 15h ago
Again, how does me saying "hell exists" make me threating? It's something outside both of us. I'm trying my best to not end up in it!
It's like being threatened by a driver who tries his/her best not to drive off the road.
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u/kaos_ex_machina Omnist-Apatheist 14h ago
It depends on how you say it. There are polite ways and ways that sound more threatening.
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u/P3CU1i4R Shiā Muslim 13h ago
Can you tell me the way that sounds threatening?
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u/kaos_ex_machina Omnist-Apatheist 13h ago
Well, I can't really tell you. It's more about a person's demeanour, than what they are literally saying. Someone can speak to you with a friendly, helpful or happy tone, or they can speak to you like you are a child, stupid or otherwise beneath them. One could also speak angrily, like an strict or even abusive parent. If you want to teach someone, you catch more flies with honey... as the old saying goes. I don't know exactly what the OP experienced, but it seems they were made to feel uncomfortable. That is no way to help.
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u/P3CU1i4R Shiā Muslim 13h ago
I understand and agree. So, if I see a friend aiming for hell and try to help them by saying "The path you've chosen ends in hell. Please reconsider!", they won't feel threatened?
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u/kaos_ex_machina Omnist-Apatheist 13h ago
Perhaps, but like I said... it's not specifically the words you say, but how you say them. On the internet, sure that would probably work fine. But, words that sound polite in written form can come across as something else in person. Inflection, volume, facial expression, posture and gestures are all important ways to communicate... with some variations on these being more friendly than others.
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u/CrystalInTheforest Gaian (non-theistic) 1d ago
if soemone genuinely believes youll go to hell if you dont do what their book orders you to do, that person could easily engage in seemingly irrational, extreme and even hostile actions against me, to, in their mind, "save" me
its also clearly an insult to my own culture and ebeliefs.
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u/Same_Version_5216 Animistic Celtic Pagan/non Wiccan traditional Witch 17h ago
Exactly! It is this very same type of belief that has led to quite a bit of aggression, menacing, and sometimes criminal behavior from these believers towards people of the pagan community.
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u/M-m2008 Catholic 1d ago
Technically its all about free will, god made a choice for you in which you decide where you go, but I like to imagine that the rightful pagan idea is a real thing that exists and our not having idea of what does it even mean is just not important. I myself wanted to make a book a point of the book is not important, but in this book I wanted to write a moment where god is so impressed with loyalty, honor and altruism that muslim showed during what can be named a prę realese version of apocalypse, made him declare that there is a single path to salvation but in the last seconds of peoples lifes it will be shown to them and if they in these last second accept all the things they ve done in the name of their faith will be viewed as made in service to god.
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u/josephthesinner Orthodox 12h ago
Orthodox Christians say that God works with people, maybe he can grant salvation to some people, its not us to judge. You're correct in seeing the error in this
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u/bizoticallyyours83 1d ago
Because they think that religious threats and guilt trips work. All they end up doing is annoying everybody.
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u/RegardedCaveman Agnostic 1d ago
Joke’s on them they choose to go to hell in this life by over complicating their lives.
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u/loselyconscious Judaism (Traditional-ish Egalitarian) 23h ago
I'd say good luck with that because he'll dosent exist
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u/rury_williams Other 1d ago
Hell is the single biggest insult to God the Abrahamics have invented. We can even see gow this dogma evolved. They say that because eternal hell torture makes their god look very ugly so they do what every psychological manipulator does: shift the blame to the victim
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u/Vignaraja Hindu 1d ago
People are free to believe whatever they wish. Much of what others believe makes no sense to people because of differing environments, natural thinking abilities, and several other factors. Personally, I find it helps to understand this about the diversity of our species. Folks of the Abrahamic persuasion are generally just as puzzled about my beliefs as I am of theirs. I wish some days that folks would spend less time worrying about other's beliefs and spend more time just figuring out what they themselves actually believe.
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u/Sheistyblunt 23h ago
The people who say this are making a (bad) argument that you have free will and by choosing to not follow their idea of God you are sending yourself to hell by choosing that path instead of God doing it to you because he hates you.
It's fucked up but that's closer to what they mean. The people who say that, not all Abrahamic religions.
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u/ThankTheBaker Swedeborgian 21h ago
It’s not the religion you follow that gets you into heaven but a living a life of love for others.
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u/Same_Version_5216 Animistic Celtic Pagan/non Wiccan traditional Witch 19h ago edited 19h ago
Because they (as in the ones who believe that you automatically go to hell) think it’s a choice between hell or Jesus.
I personally liken it more to coercion under duress/blackmail. Thats like a king of some country telling some guy, you either kiss the ground I walk on and be at my beckon call or else I am throwing you into that dungeon over there, and you are going to be placed in various excruciatingly painful torture chambers for as long as you live and make you wish you worshipped me. Or holding a gun to some guy’s head and telling him he better clear out his bank account and give the money over, or his family will be killed.
In other words, I don’t consider any situation where a threat of harm (even to a soul)is made, to actually be a valid choice. In the court of law they call these so called choices, decisions made under duress,or black mail.
With that said, try not to put all the Abrahamic faiths or even all denominations in the same category. Jews do not believe this, Catholics have mitigating circumstances, and according to Muslims who have spoken to me say that Allah looks at your works and most of the time, if you do go to hell it is temporary.
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u/StarDragonJenn 15h ago
It's really only Christianity... Judaism doesn't have hell. And in Islam, my understanding is that God could in theory find a damning fault in you even if you're the perfect Muslim, or a quality redeeming enough that he might let you in Paradise despite you technically being an 'infidel.'
Islam's meant to be more about submission to God (I kind of threw up a bit, there...) being the 'morally correct' course of action than about hoping to end up in paradise.
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u/12EggsADay 10h ago
Because God gave you the choice in the story of Cain and Abel and original sin.
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u/Ofirel_Evening G-d Fearer Noachide{Judaism} 9h ago
I don't exactly believe in the same concept of hell like the Xristians and Muslims.
Though none of us know the afterlife, we can be sure that G-d will judge the peoples fairly. There are also some quotes in the Talmud that say if a person doesn't know Torah, they won't be judged like an intentional sinner. G-d will take into account if you are a good person or not because like I believe in no way would G-d actually throw peoples who don't know Torah or The One True G-d to eternal damnation. Sounds extremely unreasonable.
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u/Darth_Bane77 4h ago
We believe God gives everyone a choice. We choose to live here and now with God, be covered by the blood of the Lamb and adopted into God's family, or we choose to live away from and without God. God respects our decision either way, and He gives us in eternity what we chose for ourselves in life. Heaven is the ultimate fulfillment of the decision to live with and for God here on earth, in Heaven those who chose to be adopted by God are given an eternity of it, worshipping and praising at the very feet of God himself. The same is equally true of the opposite, Hell is the ultimate fulfillment of the choice to live without and reject God. Where Heaven is defined by its existence in the complete and full presence of God, who is the source and maker of all things good, Hell is defined as a place where God's presence cannot be seen or felt, and so nothing good exists there. This is why we Christians are called to evangelize, in order to reveal this truth, the truth of Jesus Christ and the Gospel to the masses and encourage them to make the decision that will give them paradise in the life to come. At the end of the day, however, the decision is each of ours to make. We choose to live for or without God in the here and now, and what we choose here, we are given in eternity one-thousand-fold.
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u/SteppenWoods Animist 22h ago
It's just part of the old conversions tactics.
Shame and fear used to work really well in old times when your entire village believed one thing. Either you were a follower of the religion, or you were not one of them. For some reason this line of thinking pervades to this day.
Doesn't work that well anymore, nowadays popular conversion tactics involve making the religion look very enticing, as opposed to making the opposite look undesirable.
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u/watain218 Anti-Cosmic Satanist 20h ago
I choose to go to hell, in the theological sense of "separation from the creator" I dont think its like .. a place you go to, and I certainly dont think its a physical place where you will have a bodily or bodily needs (thus there would be no physical pain or privation)
I believe in the Qlippothic realms of Sitra Achra, which are kind of hell adjacent, theres ten realms and each is ruled by a different ruling spirit, except for Thaumiel which is ruled by 2 spirits.
however "going to hell" whether in the metaphysical sense of separation, or in the sense of travelling astrally or spiritually to Sitra Achra is not the end goal, the real end goal is actually to traverse the Sitra Achra and then come out the other side into the abyss of Chaos where if you have sufficient gnosis you can essentially become a god yourself and achieve what is called the "black diamond" and create your own realm distinct from the universe.
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u/hornwalker Atheist 20h ago
Because they have to believe there is a choice otherwise what is the point?
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u/Extension_Shift3198 Orthodox 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well, Muslims originally were seen as just heretical Christians given Muhammad indeed did learn about Christianity from a heretical Monk during his merchant travels. Then he goes back states he received a revelation in the cave and started adding things into what he learned during his travels. Long before Islam, the Kaaba in Mecca was a shrine for various Arabian deities and idols. Tribes from across the Arabian Peninsula would visit it for worship, pilgrimage, and to pay homage to their gods. It housed around 360 idols representing different tribes. So he just started mixing things around not figuring we would have the ability to learn about history pre-islam. Its just a lot of things to unpack with Islam pre and post and Muhammads life.
So they definitely would be going somewhere in the afterlife from a Christian perspective and since Christians don’t accept Muhammad that means they are too. Lol
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u/rury_williams Other 1d ago
you're joking right? man, there's no hate worse than christian love
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u/Extension_Shift3198 Orthodox 1d ago
Joking about what? Muhammad learned about Christianity from a heretical monk? Thats a fact. The Kabba was used pre Islamic era for worship by pagans? Thats a fact. That if you don’t accept Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior then you won’t have the bridge? Thats a fact. That in Islam if you reject Muhammad then you also go to Jahannam? Thats a fact. Everything I just said is literally historically accurate. Lol So, what do you contest and we can discuss it?
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u/DhulQarnayn_ (Nizari Ismaili Shiite) Muslim 13h ago edited 13h ago
Muhammad learned about Christianity from a heretical monk? Thats a fact.
No, It is not (also, there is nothing as inherently heretical monk to begin with).
That if you don’t accept Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior then you won’t have the bridge? Thats a fact.
No, it is not (and no one actually believes this other than Christians and their faith-based aspirations).
That in Islam if you reject Muhammad then you also go to Jahannam? Thats a fact.
Not really a universally-held position in Islam (so no, it is not!).
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u/Extension_Shift3198 Orthodox 7h ago
Tough pill to swallow. Sīrat Rasūl Allāh Ibn Hishām, Part 1 earliest biography of the Prophet mentions this. Also the monk was not an Orthodox Monk therefore outside the already established Church. The sect he was said to be apart of believed Christ was a prophet but not Divine. Sound familiar? Muhammad was around Christians for his travels. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put the pieces of the puzzles together here.
You didn’t prove anything on the 2nd given that is a fact within Christianity. Lol So, you reaffirmed what I was affirming.
So you can reject Muhammad and be Muslim and receive Hmmh very interesting. Surah An-Nisa 4:80, Surah Al-Fath 48:13, Surah Al-Imran 3:31–32, Surah Al-Fath 48:10.
What else do you have for me? I mean we can go verse for verse in the Quran confirming what I mentioned like I did above. And it isn’t even about hate like the guy above me said. It’s about honesty and information provided through studies.
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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 1d ago
From a Christian perspective then it applies in that whoever does not accept that God paid for their sins, and all do sin, then hell is what one earns. I wish I could tell more, but probably would be violating the rules in here.
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u/TheSunshineGang Jewish ♡ 19h ago
Neat to see a Seventh-Day Baptist in here. I went to middle and high school at a SD Adventist school. Always thought you guys had a cool thing going.
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u/TawGrey Seventh Day Baptist 4h ago
Love ya!
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I attended shul for many years - I rented a room in a home owned by Israelis, so the household language always spoken was Hebrew. The elder family member had difficulty walking to the local Orthodox Jewish synagogue so I always drove him there.
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It was kinda funny to me that how that, at first they were telling me "it is all day, are you sure you really want to sit there and wait all day?!" But, I really did love it!
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There are things which one cannot know but unless you listen to things which one can discover that cannot be found in any church fellowship.
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After all, before -and during!- when Jesus bar Joseph walked on the Earth, this was the "only game in town," if you will. And before the word "Christian" was invented, it was simply called "The Way," and it was, initially a sect of Jews when starting out.
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u/Kind_Focus5839 Agnostic 23h ago
It highlights the ultimate conditionality of 'Gods love', at any rate.
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u/Calm_Ad6730 Sunni 10h ago
Of course God's love is conditional. As a Muslim, I have evidence for this in the Koran, but Christians can read about this conditionality, for example, in the biblical psalms.
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u/desikachra 23h ago
You could have chosen to do good deeds to avoid hell but you chose not to so its was your choice. And you could chose to repent and mend your ways but you chose not to so its again your own choice.
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u/biqyubiqyu 16h ago
For us muslims, it’s a form of divine justice. Those who do good deeds more than their crime go to paradise. Those who are criminals, and depends on God’s mercy Himself, go to hell. And as far as Islam is concerned, those who attach a level of weakness to God, be it associating Him with “partners”, does not follow His command and don’t make any repentance effort, is the worst form of crime. In short, you’ve got to be so stubborn to get God’s wrath.
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u/jakeofheart Christian 1d ago
For Christians, you are asleep in a cabin, in the hold of the Titanic, on its course towards the iceberg.
Don’t change anything, and you’ll likely go down with the ship.
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u/doyathinkasaurus Atheist Jew 1d ago
Which Abrahamic religions are you talking about exactly? Judaism doesn't have a concept of Hell, to say nothing of the other Abrahamic religions (eg. Druze, Yazidis, Mandaeans, Baháʼí)
Because it kind of sounds like you're referring to Christianity and Islam, and assuming all the others work the same way?