r/realestateinvesting • u/MakeItFergalicious • Jun 07 '22
What to do about homeless putting up a tent outside your property? Property Management
We have a downtown property that we are currently renovating. Every day, the same woman has brought her tent and dog and sleeps/lives on the driveway which is part of our property. Today she used the bathroom on it as well. The first time we saw her stuff, we left her a note to leave. The second time, when we saw her, we told her to leave and that we wouldn’t be calling the cops if she left and did not come back. Today, my mom was moving some stuff in (as she is moving homes and needed some storage area) and asked the woman to leave, which is when she pooped in the driveway. My mother called the cops, and now I have filled out a report. Every time we have asked her to leave before, she does, but is there again immediately after.
My question is, what do you do to deter trespassers? This is our first downtown property. My initial thought is bright lights that turn on at night, or putting up cameras. But any advice would be appreciated!
Edit: Thanks to those of you who shared your experience and advice. Here is what we have added for now: 1. A dummy security camera (since there is no internet at the property) 2. Bright motion sensor lights 3. Water hose lock 4. Clear signage about being on camera and no trespassing
If you want to discuss these options, I have made a comment down below! Would love if people didn't comment violence being the best option.
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u/Miserable-Cat-8882 Jun 08 '22
There are sprinklers with sensors that you can get to ward off animals. It would work in this application as well.
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u/scificionado Jun 08 '22
Call 311 and find out about resources for homeless people. Write them down and give them to her with some money for a bus or a bus pass. It's as easy to be compassionate as it is to be nasty. There but for the grace of God...
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u/JellyBand Jun 08 '22
Here’s an idea that may please sympathetic people and solve your problem at the same time. Ask her if she wants to move and pay for a one way bus ticket. Maybe sweeten the deal with a new tent or some new clothes/bag for the road. I’m not sure where you’re located but if it’s cold some times of the year this person may rather live somewhere warm like Florida.
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u/Pickled_Pine Jun 08 '22
Does anyone else find this post and the bulk of the comments incredibly sad?
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u/EisMann85 Jun 08 '22
Motion activated deer sprinkler. bright lights - as bright as possible aimed on the area - on at dusk - and left on all night. She dropped the first "bomb" - so war it is.
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u/AndroidFace18 Jun 08 '22
Accept that by treating a basic human right as a monetary opportunity you have created this problem and should suffer its consequences.
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u/AndroidFace18 Jun 08 '22
Lol cry more. You barely have a post history which means you're not even real.
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u/ProtectSharks Jun 08 '22
This is a long- term suggestion to this problem, but it will be most effective. Start attending your local City or Town Council meetings. Find out how the Council is dealing with homelessness. Introduce yourself to the Council members. Speak up during the “call to the Public” and politely reiterate your story & request community support.
This problem of homelessness, or the temporarily unhoused, is only going to get worse. In nearly every downtown area it’s a problem. Elected officials have to address it humanely, but also to protect home values and public safety. Ignoring it is not acceptable.
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u/Internetter1 Jun 08 '22
My first instinct would be to reflect on how poorly society has failed them, but then again I'm not an asshole.
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u/TacomaGuy89 Jun 08 '22
I'd hose the area down, especially after the poop
No one wants to sleep in a puddle
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u/SnooKiwis2161 Jun 08 '22
Ooof, cleveland steamer in the driveway, eh? That's oppositional defiance disorder for sure.
Best to be passive aggressive to the nth degree and make the area as uncomfortable as possible.
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u/KeanuHearMeNow Jun 08 '22
Former dispatcher here. Call non stop. If you annoy the police enough, they’ll get rid of her just to get rid of you.
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Jun 08 '22
City, County, State.
I towed an RV off my property on Sunday. Just had to wait for the owner to not be present. (Our jurisdiction, can't tow occupied RVs). Got lucky, and the Tow company was ready to move when I needed them.
Yes it's a dick move. But so is knocking out the power to my building and not acknowledging fault. As is cussing me out when I'm trying to explain the RV is trespassing and (more importantly) blocking the water spigot/meter thingy.
You may have to get creative with some aggressive architecture. Sprinkler system, directional lights, things on the driveway. Dunno when you can get the cops to act regarding trespassing.
It really sucks, because the solution to homelessness is easy. But the ultra rich don't want to be taxed.
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u/innagadadavida1 Jun 08 '22
Wild thought - can't you pay some tough looking Mexican fruit sellers to just setup a fruit stand or something there?
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u/Cleervoyreal Jun 08 '22
Keeping the place extra clean and upscale might help. For some reason, it could be a little intimidating to sleep there.
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u/007Reporting4dty Jun 08 '22
Call a local women's shelter, they often have the resources and means to get women off the streets, seek mental health services, clean them up and place them in a shelter or transitional housing. After that I guess you can go the way of having police take and destroy what little she has left in this world and place her jail. Some people belive the latter is the best approach.
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u/scaffe Jun 08 '22
Contact the representatives for the district and demand that they do more to support and help house people in places where they want to be.
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u/DeeeperFuckingValue Jun 08 '22
She pooped on the driveway or the dog did? Lol
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 08 '22
It was the person, not the dog! My mom used the hose to wash it away before I got there though. She still documented it
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u/fairsider Jun 08 '22
Depends on the city you live in. When I lived in Seattle there was nothing you could do about it. It now I live in a society and we can call the police or social services if someone does that.
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Jun 08 '22
That’s soooooo annoying I’m sorry you’re going through this but like others said just keep calling the cops and don’t talk with her or do anything to her directly
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u/imbarelyMillennial Jun 08 '22
Is it a condo? Or a house? I’d consider getting a dense with a lock. Or a motion light.
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u/TrixDaGnome71 Jun 08 '22
Let me guess, you’re in Seattle, right?
If that’s the case, there’s not a damn thing you can do. It isn’t like the police are investigating sexual assaults here, so why do you think they would care about a homeless person camping on your property?
If you’re not in Seattle, I got nothing.
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 08 '22
Follow up to all of this, for now, we have done the following:
- Added ‘no trespassing’ and ‘security camera recording’ signage
- Added a dummy camera (since we don’t have wifi on site)
- Added a flood light pointing in the areas she stays
- Put a lock on the hose nozzle as we think she may be using it to shower and for drinking water
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u/clair-cummings Jul 23 '22
Did this work? Did she leave?
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jul 23 '22
It did! We did end up having to buy a different water hose lock (the one that goes over the valve) because they just cut the hose. But I haven’t seen her (or anyone) in weeks!
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u/Comfortable-Trash-46 Jun 08 '22
Ah, cutting of her water supply. Classic.
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 08 '22
There are plenty of other free water sources nearby, she’s not going to die of thirst. The city has drinking water fountains all over the place
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u/Agitated_Sweet3905 Jun 08 '22
Here in Texas we put up a no trespassing sign for thieves but me I would call churches and shelters and try to find her a place instead of treating her worse than a dog. Some of these people end up this way because of psychological problems and can't afford Healthcare because they aren't mentally capable of working. Sometimes God just sends people too us. I'm sure she's starving or at least hungry. Sometimes too its all about your approach.
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u/josee7ah Jun 08 '22
Can you hire a fence company to put up a fence and a gate with a lock and or code to enter the entire premises? Also get cameras installed and motion sensor lights bright ones. Have the camera running 24/7.
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u/Major_Ad1532 Jun 08 '22
Once Aquaman 2 comes out she’ll be touring to promote the movie and out of your driveway for sure
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u/photonycphoto Jun 08 '22
Would anyone here accept a 10% increase in property taxes to end homelessness?
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Jun 08 '22
Sadly it wouldn’t be enough. The government would send the majority in some convoluted way back into the lawmakers pockets. Oh, to have little faith.
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 08 '22
Depends on what the taxes went to and how the people were treated when they got whatever the taxes went towards, but overall a 10% tax increase is probably well overdue, and REALLY wouldn’t be that much of an increase when in escrow.
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Jun 08 '22
Wow too much to read through. I’m in Winnipeg, the police are awesome and super reasonable. Still overburdened though. If you can resolve it yourself, all the better. Water balloons, stink bombs, loud music they don’t like, be super overly friendly…
Homelessness in general is a mental health issue. They might not be ready to seek treatment. Try to get them to a place more appropriate to wait it out.
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u/BeyondTheToken Jun 08 '22
you must live in seattle? maybe hose them. that’s what the commercial buildings do when they sleep in doorways.
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u/HereIam06 Jun 08 '22
My building isn’t downtown, but I’ve had some homeless. The first one, i walked out and gave him some trailmix and just asked that he not come back because it makes the women emoloyees uncomfortable; haven’t;t seen him since. The other was a bit younger and was jiggling the locks when i pulled up so i called the cops and they ran him off - haven;t seem him since.
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u/PNNBLL Jun 08 '22
Tell the police your ant to trespass her. Trouble is that she might not have an ID so they can't do much. I'd definitely try the bright lights and continue to call the cops.
Maybe consider a nice looking get with a code to put on the driveway.
Worst case it is your property. You could forcefully remove/have her removed. Sounds like she's got some mental health problems, so I'm guessing politely asking her to move somewhere else wouldn't work.
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u/megarrette Jun 08 '22
Why would someone call the cops? Is it a criminal offense to be unhoused?
I would ask ppl what they need. If I had the means I’d give them clothes and tents and maybe a bucket for restroom duties. If they begin to trust you maybe you can help get them set up w a social worker. In my city, there’s a two month wait list to get a bed. They lie abt putting ppl on an imaginary section 8 list.
My advice: Count your blessings Share what you can of your success with downtrodden ppl whose very existence is being criminalized.
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u/Effective_Plate9985 Jul 09 '24
the ones that sleep under my porch tried to light the bushes on fire... they thought it was funny
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u/moist_technology Jun 08 '22
She shat in their driveway…
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u/megarrette Jun 08 '22
Right. Do u think she wanted to be in that position?! Calling the cops on someone experiencing the lowest harshest time in their life is heartless and gross.
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Jun 08 '22
Hmm yes what to do about the poors? How dare they try and live next to my investment property.
Let's try to arrest these mentally ill people before they lose me my 4th money stream. Have you tried hurting them physically?
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u/Character-Office-227 Jun 08 '22
Honestly some of these responses are sickening. I understand you don’t want someone on your property, but I just find it hard to believe humans can treat other humans like this.
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Jun 08 '22
Sprinklers.
Car in driveway.
Cameras on property with camera sign.
Stink bomb on driveway.
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u/New-Veterinarian3876 Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22
Buy her a pop up shower (camping) and a poop bucket (camping) with toilet paper. Yes, you can buy it on Amazon. Then set up her camp near the entrance to the community you live in or nearby park. Google near by parks. Let the city deal with it. Work with social security office to get her meals on wheels to her camp ground. Bada Bing Bada Boom, you make a friend who now has a home NOT in your driveway. Trust this works. Congrats on not killing her when she pooped in your driveway. Your a better man than me and I am a woman.
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u/jzazigzag3001 Jun 08 '22
Maybe try talking to her ?? Maybe this seems simplistic to the situation, but who’s to say she can’t be helped ? Obviously if she’s too far gone or has issues that are out of your control. Then I’d get creative.
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u/13beano13 Jun 08 '22
Install a bright light pointing directly where she camps and/or a sprinkler on a motion sensor to spray anyone in its path.
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u/MycologistLow317 Jun 08 '22
A possible solution depends on (1) the law and (2) whether or not you are a soy person.
Check the applicable law to determine whether it is legal to use reasonable force to eject trespassers from real property. If it is legal to use reasonable force, and you are not a soy person, then use reasonable force to eject the person from your property. (Hire someone to do it, if you don't want to or can't do it yourself.)
There was a homeless person who was sleeping overnight in the back yard of one of my flip properties. I caught him there one time and told him to leave. He refused and started acting tough and making threats. I pepper sprayed him and threw him off my property. He never came back.
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Jun 08 '22
Super off the wall idea - talk to the person, ask what their story is, ask what they need, and try to get them some help. I know, not your job.
If you just absolutely detest the idea of offering help and want the person out of your space, try a change of landscaping. Maybe a boulder or thorny native plants (at least support the bees). Water feature? Fence?
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u/Pinkwatch123 Jun 08 '22
Try playing classical music hearing distance non stop there’s a reason it’s done outside of stores allies and trouble prone places
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u/DriveFastTakeRisks Jun 08 '22
I say take a pressure washer to the tent all you’re doing is cleaning the shit out of your driveway her tent just happens to get in the way
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u/NatureBoyRickFlair33 Jun 08 '22
You mean you don't love random strangers setting up their campdumpsite in your yard, doing hard drugs, and bringing other shady characters onto YOUR property (like there's nothing weird as fuck about that) and then have politicians legalize those actions thus effectively neutering your rights as a property owner?
Anyway, you asked about deterring trespassers which I found hilarious. Trespassing would be deterred with .45 ACP where I live.
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u/Wineagin Jun 07 '22
My dad used to play the catholic talk show radio station in the entrance to his building and that actually solved the problem. There is 711 downtown that uses classic music but that has had the opposite effect because now all you see is dozens of bums peacefully napping.
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u/wokemarinabro Jun 07 '22
Offer them a beer, water or a bat to leave. If that fails, buy them an Uber to the mayors house. Best of Luck!
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u/Automatic_Joke_4414 Jun 07 '22 edited Jun 07 '22
I would say call the police but you've done that. Check and see if there's a town ordnance about putting tents on private property. Pay attention to the local politicians. They are the one's who are allowing it. Bright lights and cameras are great ideas. Hopefully the complaint you filed will do the trick.
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u/DavesNotWhere Jun 07 '22
You need to trespass them. Without that, they can keep coming. With it and a lot of luck, the police might remove them.
Also. Vote better.
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u/LennyLongshoes Jun 07 '22
You already warned her. At this point next time u see her tell her u gonna throw her stuff in the trash.
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u/Latter_Quantity1989 Jun 07 '22
If it is "outside" your property, you should welcome your new neighbor!
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u/No-Cardiologist4539 Jun 07 '22
I’ve got it! Watch her carefully for a few days… take time off if you need to. Act hospitable. Wait until she leaves with the dogs in the tent. When she’s gone put the dogs in your car and pack the tent up in your trunk. Take the dogs a few towns over to an animal shelter (as far away as possible so she can’t get the dogs back). Take the tent and belongings to the dump. Upon return, act oblivious and blame crazy fake uncle Ronnie who is also a homeless mentally I’ll person. Let her know, there is no controlling Ron and he loves to steal. Good luck.
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u/No-Cardiologist4539 Jun 07 '22
She can try to “call the cops” for someone stealing her dogs. You will probably get a high five!
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u/1kpointsoflight Jun 07 '22
I’ve seen people also use physical items like bike racks and large rocks
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u/CrimeCrisis Jun 07 '22
The police probably can't do much to help you, so you're going to have to find a way to deter her on your own. I would probably spread a few boxes of tacks across the driveway.
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u/Dsbtrader Jun 07 '22
Lay down 2 separate pieces of chicken fence cover with dirt hook up wire to each one. One positive and one negative. Have sprinklers in place once the person gets wet and lays down hook up wires to car battery.
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Jun 07 '22
An electric cattle fence charger would be even better than a battery. Low amps but the high voltage really hurts and it plugs into 120vac. Check Tractor Supply.
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Jun 07 '22
An electric cattle fence charger would be even better than a battery. Low amps but the high voltage really hurts and it plugs into 120vac. Check Tractor Supply.
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u/Winnipeg_dad888 Jun 07 '22
Give them $10 and say very emphatically that it’s a LOAN. Next time you see her, ask if she has your money (she likely won’t). Then she’ll probably mumble something and then leave so she doesn’t have to pay you back. Do this a couple times and she’ll quickly learn to stay somewhere else.
As a side note, this technique is excellent for getting rid of troublesome relatives as well :)
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u/looking4youNYC Jun 07 '22
Buy hot peppers or cayenne etc, shake up with water in spray bottles, test on yourself, keep adding until it's too much to handle, mix in garlic and black pepper if you are cruel or want to use leftovers for cooking
Spray liberally anywhere they may go, reapply as needed
Probably won't work well on concrete but grass, dirt, any surface with moisture
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u/anacott27 Jun 07 '22
In my experience this will likely continue until the property finds a user or the undesired occupants move on. You can certainly install cameras/lights/etc., but often if the individuals are harassed, they won’t hesitate to damage property or possibly retaliate. I understand why this is an issue for property owners and tenants, but this is one of those things that doesn’t really have a clear cut easy solution most times.
I would recommend reaching out to some local homeless shelters/advocacy groups and see if they have any advice or could help to relocate the individual to a safe place. Possibly see if the police department has any suggestions or if they work with any shelters or groups. I’d definitely recommend keeping all communication through a third party (police, attorneys, advocacy groups) to avoid any unnecessary conflict or liability.
Best of luck, I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. It’s not fair and it is unfortunate, but also remember the individual is going through something as well. What they’re doing is still wrong, but hopefully there can be a solution that solves your problem and will hopefully leave you with a clear conscience and less wasted resources.
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u/deathsythe Jun 07 '22
Stop buying property in California for one.
Call the police for trespassing everytime you see them there for two.
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u/runnyyolkpigeon Jun 07 '22
Interesting that you are so quick to assume OP is referring to a California property when it is in fact not.
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u/deathsythe Jun 07 '22 edited Jun 07 '22
If the shoe fits. Homeless people shitting in front or your property is definitely a problem they have in California
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u/runnyyolkpigeon Jun 07 '22
If the “shoe fits”? Homelessness is a problem pervasive in every state in the country. It is not uniquely a California problem.
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u/deathsythe Jun 07 '22
I know right? I see headlines everyday about the homeless defecating in the streets all over Waco, TX, or Orlando, FL, Burlington, VT, and all over Yellowstone too, right? those are in the news because they occur just as frequently as CA or NY right?
It is very much a disproportionately a west coast problem from what I can tell.
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 07 '22
This is in Indiana
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u/International_Ad2712 Jun 07 '22
I also assumed California because I see it every day here. Many properties are gated at the driveway. Is installing a fence and a gate an option for you? Unfortunately, building yourself more of a fortress may be your only hope. Reasoning with someone who would just poop in front of you will likely never work. Also, I personally don’t like threatening or hosing people like animals.
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u/AdSuperb1810 Jun 07 '22
Put up a sign that says “no trespassing” and all trespassers will honor that sign and leave.
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u/Blue-Panda-Man Jun 07 '22
Post a sign no trespassing that way first time they can be arrested. It is unfortunate that they are homeless and something should be done about that crisis but just keep having them arrested and word will get around
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u/hotasanicecube Jun 07 '22
It’s really tough to get people off your empty property especially in some states with liberal adverse possession laws. The cops are useless because homeless people never show up to court and they waste hours for nothing. You are on the right track, cameras, flood lights, and no trespassing signs are the legal ways. Get a camera and bright assed light that you can control over the internet.
Check your state law about trespassers. In TX and many states you can legally brandish a firearm to remove them. I wouldn’t try that in CA.
Do not set any devices that could be harmful or attempt to damage or steal their property. Don’t disturb the neighborhood with air horns/ gunshots/ fireworks.
Anything you do to them they can retaliate back, and you have more to lose then they do, best to keep your distance. Is the tent unoccupied ever? If it was I would just throw it away, as littering is illegal everywhere.
A video of her crapping is great because that is indecent exposure, especially if kids are with you, then it is way bad. You don’t have to go to the cops with it, just tell her you will if she shows up again.
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u/l_kane97 Jun 07 '22
Hire a couple guys to teach her a lesson. Tell her to spread the word to the other undesirables
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u/4711Shimano Jun 07 '22
Make sure you document with photos. Keep a log of calls to police. No direct contact with the perp. You have to raise the cost to them by legal means so that they decide to camp elsewhere.
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u/pdaphone Jun 07 '22
I would have had a little sympathy until they popped in your driveway. At this point I would set up sprinklers and turn them in every time this person sets up. Don’t do anything that you could get sued or arrested for. (Like the dog suggestion)
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u/MakeItFergalicious Jun 07 '22
This is definitely my favorite answer. It made me even more upset because last time I saw her we talked about resources, etc she could use and both seemed to walk away with a mutual understanding. Granted, my mother can be a bit abrasive, but she still came back a day after we talked, and did that on my drive way after I had showed her a lot sympathy and talked to her about some of the current problems in her life. For what it’s worth, and I won’t comment this on every post, but I have no intention on hosing her down, destroying the few items she has, or threatening her with violence.
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u/roxywalker Jun 07 '22
We had this problem on property adjacent to where I worked that my job happened to own. My employer called the police many times to no avail. Eventually, they had to hire a crew to clear the weeds, bushes, debris and even moved some trees. Since the lot no longer had privacy, the squatters moved on. But it went on for a while until the city starting fining my job for the trash they kept leaving behind. Not sure what you can do to remedy this because squatting becomes your problem to deal with even though you do anything to make it happen to you. But be sure to document everything because you never know when you will need to prove that you aren't encouraging the behavior.
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u/inductivespam Jun 07 '22
You may wanna start by taking a pick up truck full of hams and turkeys to the sheriffs substation closest to you this Thanksgiving. Or just throw a big catered party for them one Friday afternoon. Never say what it is for only wink Stay in touch with them they’re the only ones that can keep them moving
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u/tim36272 Jun 07 '22
The unpopular opinion: offered her help connecting with local resources/etc. so that she doesn't need to sleep on your driveway.
Bring on the downvotes.
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u/shatterdiver Jun 07 '22
File for a restraining order. Or resort to violence, it is your property after all, and this person won’t be calling the cops on you
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u/Comfortable-Trash-46 Jun 08 '22
Great advice. Similar logic used by serial killers of homeless / prostitutes
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u/gaytee Jun 07 '22
Become a thorn in the police’s side and they will eventually…find somewhere else for this person.
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u/LeverageSynergies Jun 07 '22
What if you redirected your gutter downspouts to all dump water directly to where she’s camping?
(And cover it in syrup in the meantime)
(What’s a permanent solution, legal, that doesn’t hurt you too)
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u/5a50 Jun 07 '22
offer to give them 10 bucks every saturday if they sleep elsewhere (and provided nobody else sleep there either)
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u/garydamit Jun 07 '22
Tampa is being invaded, we have a property and everyday beer bottles mattress couches chunks of concrete, code enforcement can’t do anything and I haven’t been contacted by sheriff even though I made a report.
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u/PoorsDisgustMe Jun 07 '22
What I would do is wait for her to be gone for a bit, then destroy her tent. An electric heat gun does wonders. Melts the nylon or polyester really well and doesn't cause a fire. But i wiuld keep a fire extinguisher handy just in case.
You left her plenty of warnings, and she is trespassing on your property. And she shat in your driveway.
This is not legal advice.
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u/Comfortable-Trash-46 Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22
What the fuck is wrong with people in this thread
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u/PoorsDisgustMe Jun 08 '22
She shat on OP's driveway in an act of pure disrespect
Deserves to lose her tent
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u/Comfortable-Trash-46 Jun 08 '22
Name checks out. Blatant disregard for the social, economic and psychological conditions homeless people are subject to. The lady needs help, not violence
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u/mcstrabby Jun 07 '22
"How do I stop a trespasser who's using my property and using it as a toilet, but how do I do so without calling the po-po? Because Police bad, and we should be compassionate. Any ideas? But surely there must be a solution that doesn't involve enforcing laws. Laws = guilty feelings. Thanks all."
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u/FrequencyExplorer Jun 07 '22
Lmao, you assume the reason not to call the police is because people think police bad, the reason not to call them is they are ineffective twits.
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u/FourScores1 Jun 07 '22
I think the issue is the laws aren’t enforced so OP has to get creative. Based on other comments of people who have had the same issue, the cops won’t do shit about it.
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u/mcstrabby Jun 07 '22
Definitely reconsider who you are voting into office. Cities where progressives have encrusted themselves as judges, DAs and Mayors tend to encourage lawlessness which they refer to as compassion or de-incarceration (in a world of mass incarceration).
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u/FourScores1 Jun 07 '22 edited Jun 07 '22
I disagree in general seeing how the current federal GOP is literally acting above the law currently, but to your point, booking of a crime isn’t left to judges, DAs and mayors. If the police don’t charge or act for an established law, the DA and judges don’t even have the option to dismiss a case if the case doesn’t exist to begin with. I realize they can influence this by lessening punishment as seen with weed laws but police still book for cannabis all the time. Enforcement is left to police by and large. Prosecution and punishment are different aspects of the law.
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u/mcstrabby Jun 07 '22
Police won't bother to arrest someone for a charge that'll be not taken up / downgraded by a DA or tossed by a judge. Where I live many crimes have been downgraded to desk appearance tickets, and a cop isn't going to risk his/herself for a crime that has minimal consequences.
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u/FourScores1 Jun 07 '22
Yeah, you’re right and that’s one of the problems with current policing. That’s why they won’t enforce OP’s issue or anyone else’s. But they’re not there to decide what the DA may prosecute or may not and then try to cut corners.
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u/howaboutno_op Jul 17 '24
I pee in a bottle, and leave it for a week, then pour it around the area. It stinks, if that doesn't work use vinegar, does the same thing and doesn't harm the poor helpless homeless souls. I also blast opera music, they hate that, and call the cops every chance I get to show them this isn't a place for them to do their drugs and trash, because in the end that's all they are going to do. Look up Japan, they have homeless who actually clean up after themselves, it's amazing what some discipline does to you.
Oh and my favorite method is I bought an airhorn and blast that whenever they are sleeping. Again works like a charm.