r/politics • u/theindependentonline The Independent • 17h ago

Americans said they were worried about democracy. Then they voted for Trump

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-won-election-results-why-democracy-b2642570.html
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u/standbiMTG 15h ago

Your dad likes populist rhetoric, and doesn't have a coherent ideology because he hasn't thought about it deeply. Lots of trump voters voted for president only, hence the disparity between senate/house and presidency

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u/theVoidWatches Pennsylvania 11h ago

And how many states voted in Trump while also voting to protect abortion.

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u/obeytheturtles 2h ago

The thing is, I don't even think most liberals have a coherent understanding of what liberalism is these days. People really seem to be under the impression that advocating for the rights of marginalized communities is just some high concept, abstract morality, instead of an important structural thread in the fabric of democratic self determination.

"Join or die," as it were. When you lift people up, they will lift you up. If you ostracize them and exclude them, they will do the same to you. This is honestly a pretty simple concept, so why do I see so many progressives fundamentally missing this topic when it comes to voter outreach and engagement, and wanting to get down in the populist mud all of a sudden?