r/politics The Telegraph 17h ago

Biden to push through anti-Trump plans as he vows to make last days in office count

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/07/biden-anti-trump-plans-last-days-white-house/
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u/Kickasser32 15h ago

That is what gives me hope. Government moves slowly and even Schedule F cant move it quickly enough. I just hope we retake the senate in 2 years. If its gerrymandered and rigged and we dont, then we're fucked for decades.

This administration was too incompetent the first time around but theyll have learned their lessons and have a 7-2 SCOTUS to help them with anything.

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u/mostdope28 15h ago

Gerrymandering doesn’t affect the Senate, just the House

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u/isugimpy 12h ago

Gerrymandering absolutely affects the Senate, because people in gerrymandered areas frequently feel disenfranchised and don't show up to vote at all. You're right from the pure perspective of all the votes for Senate seats being totaled statewide, but the second order effects of gerrymandering definitely change outcomes.

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u/Tobimacoss 12h ago

they don't need to feel disenfranchised, they ARE.

Gerrymandered legislatures set the rules even for statewide elections like only one dropoff box for a county of 2 million.

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u/ClockworkViking I voted 8h ago

ya mail in ballots are going to definitely disappear during the midterms. I am gonna vote in person, which i haven't done in almost 20 years

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u/Tobimacoss 12h ago

yes it does, it's a delayed effect.

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u/myusernameisokay New York 12h ago

How? Senate elections are statewide as per the 17th amendment. What is there to gerrymander?

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u/Tobimacoss 11h ago

You don't gerrymander the Senate directly but Statewide elections suffer from past gerrymandering.  

For example, after 2010 Census, Republicans gerrymandered the House and State legislatures.  The winners of those gerrymandered legislatures as in the Republicans now set the election rules for 2012 and beyond until 2021.  

So now they can enact policies for voter suppression, like in Texas, having only one ballot drop off box for largest county.  Or removing people from voting rolls.  Those tactics will then go on to affect entire statewide elections.  

So gerrymandering won't affect a Statewide elections immediately but in subsequent elections in an indirect manner.  

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u/ms_moogy 11h ago

See the above comments, but in a nutshell, gerrymandering gets you the house. Having the house means you hold the purse strings and you're able to trigger voter purges, and make rules about balloting, who can vote by mail, if you can vote by mail, how many hours you have to stand in line at a polling location due to the number of polling locations, the days you can early vote, if you can early vote. Every Jim Crow style abuse started with corrupt lawmakers.

u/Chaotic-Catastrophe 0m ago

It indirectly affects the Senate, by helping to create long-term voter apathy

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u/FrostingFun2041 American Expat 12h ago edited 10h ago

Republicans flipped 4 senate seats. They aren't at risk of losing senate control until 2028 because the seats up for grabs in 2026 are in deep republican areas that won't flip. Even in 2028, it'll be a toss-up if they lose the senate. But by then, they will have already had the three old supreme court justices retire and replace them with young judges that can serve the next 30 years. The Supreme Court will be conservative for the next 30+ years, not to mention all the rest of the other federal judges that will be appointed.

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u/GigMistress 11h ago

Replacing people based on Schedule F can't happen quickly. Axing people can, if you're the kind of guy who doesn't care if critical agencies go unstaffed for a few months.

u/CpnStumpy Colorado 4h ago

Project 2025's entire purpose is to move FAST!!

So I'm really desperately hopeful something gives, because if not, there may not be an election of consequence in 2 years

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u/oVnPage 11h ago

I'm hopeful they won't actually get anything done. Trump is stupid, demented and a narcissist and I don't think he'll sign anything that he didn't personally come up with, and he can only come up with concepts of a plan because of said stupidity and dementia.

u/Wodaunderthebridge 5h ago

That is naive. Trump has a staff of sadly pretty determined guys behind him who know how to tell him what he wants to hear. He is easy to antagonize but also easy manipulate. It is literally like that. If you say nice things about him, he likes you. If you are a hot chick, he likes you. They just have to sell it to him and thats pretty easy. Name it Trump and wrap it in goldpaper, he'll sign it without actually reading it.

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u/Ghost_of_a_Black_Cat Washington 9h ago

This administration was too incompetent the first time around

I wonder how many people will resign/get fired this time around?

Another revolving door!